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Marrakai
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W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro
      #231050 - 10/06/13 09:41 PM

Thought it was time I did a photo spread of the "Fat Lady" since my days as the 3rd and current owner are numbered.
Here are the details of this most interesting rifle:

W.W.Greener Double Barrel Express Rifle chambered for the .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro cartridge. This rifle was built on a 1928 Greener "Empire" (Grade E-17) 12-bore shotgun action by Melbourne gunsmith Rolph Bachnick, in the first year of the new millenium I believe. I have owned it since October 2003. Overall weight is 10 1/2 lbs and the balance point is 2 1/4 inches ahead of the hinge-pin, still well behind the forward hand. Barrels are 22 inches with British express sights including a faceted diamond front bead! Barrel engraving reads ".577 - 2 3/4 Case" and "65 Grain Cordite / 650 Grain Bullet". Rib is engine-turned with maker's name in a banner: "W.W.Greener Maker 40 Pall Mall London S.W. Works St Mary's Square Birmingham."

The action remains tight on the face and bores remain in excellent condition, appearing virtually as new. External rust-blueing of the barrels is very fine and still appearing virtually new. The non-automatic Greener side-safety is modified with a clever raised rib for positive non-slip operation. Stock finish shows a few minor dents and scratches commensurate with field carry, and some thinning of the oil finish at the front of the comb, however the stock still looks great and I never considered a refinish to be necessary.

Hope you enjoy the photos!

Rifle: Right Hand Side view:


Rifle: Left Hand Side with cartridge box:


Rifle: Left Hand Side viewed from above:


Barrel Rib with Express Sights:


Action: Right Hand Side:



Action: Top view:


Action: underside and Floor Plate:


Barrel and Rib Engraving:


Action Flats with Greener "Elephant" Trade Mark:


Barrel Flats with new Proof Marks:


Standing Breech showing the Breech Face:


Trigger Guard Tang showing E-17 Grade engraving:


Rear Express Sight viewed from above:


Single Standing Leaf Express Sight:


Faceted Diamond Front Sight Bead:


Front Sight showing Engine-Turned Base and Caterpillar Bead:


Buttstock: Right Hand Side view:


Last Bull taken with the Greener .577 double rifle:


Edited by CptCurl (11/06/13 10:38 PM)

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: Marrakai]
      #231055 - 10/06/13 10:59 PM

Marrakai, thanks for posting.

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: NitroX]
      #231088 - 11/06/13 10:41 PM

A most useful and handy rifle, as your stories have made clear. I'm glad to finally see the piece.

Quote:

. . .since my days as the 3rd and current owner are numbered.



Has the new .577 stolen your heart?

Curl

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Marrakai
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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: CptCurl]
      #231118 - 12/06/13 09:15 PM

Stolen my finances......

...sadly.

(Gradually steeling my heart too, of course!)

Really don't want to see the Fat Lady go, though.
Vintage originals are more desirable I guess, but also more expensive to acquire, and generally can't shoot the marvelous Woodleigh steel-jacketed solid.
This Greener can!
Don't like relinquishing a capability like that!


Almost forgot: here's another photo of the Fat Lady's greatest pair of assets!




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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: Marrakai]
      #231232 - 16/06/13 09:30 PM

Marrakai,
Are the .577 barrels sleeved into the 12 gauge barrels for their full length on this one? What is your load with modern powder? Thanks,Bob

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Marrakai
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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: Birdhunter50]
      #231272 - 18/06/13 10:29 AM

Bob:
The .577 barrels are sleeved into the 12-bore "monobloc" in the normal way. The cut to remove the original barrels is a little further forward than usual for a shotgun re-sleeve, and you can see the joins in a couple of the photos above (although they were quite well done and are certainly not obvious). The breech-ends of the sleeves are visible in the "greatest assets" photo above.

My regulating load is 77gr of ADI's AR2206. This gives ~1665fps for the 650gr Woodleigh Weldcore. I drop the charge by 2gr for the steel-jacketed solid, just to be on the safe side.

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: Marrakai]
      #231276 - 18/06/13 01:37 PM

Marrakai;

It is generous and kind of you to share your loading for the Fat Lady. Do you know what the chamber pressure amounts to with that load--actual or speculative?

Kindest Regards;

Steve Howell

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: transvaal]
      #231315 - 19/06/13 10:45 AM

Very nice Tony!

regards,

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: Taylor416]
      #233206 - 30/07/13 10:42 PM

What a fine double - should you ever sell may I ask how many GBPs would be required to prise her off you?

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: BPEBuff]
      #233241 - 31/07/13 09:16 AM

BPEBuff:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's already sold.................

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=231038&an=0&page=1#Post231038

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: relics6165]
      #386801 - 15/09/24 12:22 AM

Revisiting.

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: NitroX]
      #386802 - 15/09/24 01:19 AM

Even 11 years later the "Fat Lady" rates 2 thumbs up.
Nothing like a Light Cordite or BP .577 Express.
- Mike

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: 3DogMike]
      #386805 - 15/09/24 01:59 AM

That is a loverly rifle.

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: DarylS]
      #386906 - 21/09/24 08:16 PM

Great memories on that one,

. . . but not for the many buffalo it has downed!

Curly

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Re: W.W.Greener Double Express:- .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro [Re: CptCurl]
      #386909 - 21/09/24 10:51 PM



Like a beautiful double "barrelled" girl.

Squint your eyes a little and see.

I'll have to find a suitable matching image.

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