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Rigby Rising Bite O/U
#152125 - 29/01/10 09:30 AM

Not to my taste but an interesting topic of discussion nonetheless..

From the sellers listing:

Extraordinary Over/Under RISING BITE .470 cal. sidelock ejector. Chopperlump barrels with quarter rib, one standing, and two folding sights tapering to full raised rib signed "Jno. Rigby & Co., 13 Pall Mall, London" in gold. The massive action features double underlugs, the rising bite engaging a top rib extension. A conservative estimate to replicate this rifle would be in excess of $150,000. The sculptured fences and signature drop edge locks, are gamescene engraved with lion and elephant by Ken Praeter, who was the house engraver for deluxe Holland & Holland guns for many years. Highly figured wood and as new condition make this a most unique rifle for your collection or next safari.

$85k is what they have it out for..

Edited by CptCurl (29/01/10 01:29 PM)

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: ]
#152126 - 29/01/10 09:38 AM

I saw that gun at the Antique show on a guys table. had a good discussion about it. not to my taste either.

Some nice guns around at the Antique show.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 500Nitro]
#152130 - 29/01/10 11:52 AM

That's not something you'll see at the sport shop!

I think the $150K replacement cost sounds conservative.
Wonder what the UK Rigby gang would have to say about it.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: tinker]
#152137 - 29/01/10 01:30 PM

That's pretty nasty. Do you know when it was made?

It gives the Mexican Rigbys a run for their money.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: CptCurl]
#152146 - 29/01/10 02:52 PM

I am not keen on O/U rifles or shotguns, but I would pay $5,000 for that one.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 500grains]
#152159 - 29/01/10 07:40 PM

It looks as though it's not quite closed from some angles, and yet it is. With such a high profile, I bet it would rise like hell when the upper barrel is fired.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: tinker]
#152164 - 29/01/10 08:55 PM

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That's not something you'll see at the sport shop!

I think the $150K replacement cost sounds conservative.
Wonder what the UK Rigby gang would have to say about it.

Cheers
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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 450_366]
#152229 - 30/01/10 02:18 PM

I am with everyone who doesn't like the looks, but my guess is that the rarity of the piece makes it valuable. Like bank notes with mis-spellings and stamps with errors, this might end up being a very valuable rifle if Rigby madde only a tiny number in this configuration.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: mehulkamdar]
#152246 - 30/01/10 05:32 PM

I'm sure it's an extremely well-made rifle, but I'm not into an O/U rifle with such a high standing breech. Aside from the stresses on the action by angular forces from such a large cartridge, the looks don't seem fluid. The forearm looks to be an exact match to the forearm on the Winchester O/U rifles.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: mehulkamdar]
#152837 - 04/02/10 04:25 PM

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I am with everyone who doesn't like the looks, but my guess is that the rarity of the piece makes it valuable. Like bank notes with mis-spellings and stamps with errors, this might end up being a very valuable rifle if Rigby madde only a tiny number in this configuration.

Mehul,
I agree that it has to be bloody rare.

It looks clubby and more than just a tad fugley, but who knows, maybe it handles and balances ok.
Hard to tell the true qualities of a gun just from photos.
Anyway I'm guessing Peter has already bought it for the London Rigby collection!

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#152838 - 04/02/10 04:28 PM

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The forearm looks to be an exact match to the forearm on the Winchester O/U rifles.

I wouldn't say an exact match, but it is a similar style.
The WIN O/U DR forend is not quite so fat and clubby as what is on that rigby.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 4seventy]
#152852 - 04/02/10 10:05 PM

I don't like the look of it either but it must be rarer than rocking horse sh*t, best, Mike

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#152858 - 05/02/10 01:05 AM

I REALLY do not like the looks of this one at all. It looks at least a barrel width too tall. The area and profile of the chambers look out of place in contrast with the action and the bulky forestock/ large chunk of wood. I also do not like the transition from the side plates to the wrist. It has that Ford Taurus non descript curvature that does so well in a wind tunnel.

I was intrigued by the rising bite mechanism.

This one can be expensive and rare (I am sure it is both) but does nothing for me. What was Rigby thinking?

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 4seventy]
#152916 - 05/02/10 04:28 PM

4seventy,

If Peter has bought it, should I start pestering him to post detailed pictures here?

I need to get out to Wisconsin and take some pictures of some very famous Rigbys in Ernie and Gerri Stalman's collection, including a 500 BPE rifle that belonged to the Maharani of Cooch-Behar who shot something like 200 tigers with it. Gerri has taken both Cape and Australian buffalo with the rifle and she loves it. It is a hammer underlever with a rising bite. Rigby must have made a whole range of very interesting rifles in the old days.

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Edited by mehulkamdar (05/02/10 04:30 PM)

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: mehulkamdar]
#152924 - 05/02/10 06:12 PM

When it comes to O/Us the Brits go from the sublime Woodward-Purdey shotgun to the ridiculousness of that. I think I have seen a shotgun by H&H or Boss that was nearly as loud.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: Paul]
#152934 - 05/02/10 09:54 PM

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When it comes to O/Us the Brits go from the sublime Woodward-Purdey shotgun to the ridiculousness of that. I think I have seen a shotgun by H&H or Boss that was nearly as loud.

Sometimes guns and rifles are rare for a very good reason. Rare is not synonomous with form or function.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: Der_Jaeger]
#155791 - 09/03/10 12:54 AM

Goodness gracious!

This shows that nobody is above mistakes...

The thing looks... how to say? Sturdy.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 577500WR]
#155795 - 09/03/10 01:47 AM

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I REALLY What was Rigby thinking?

Cheers,

Matt

They were thinking this, as all gunmakers do.

Someone walks into the shop and wants to place a deposit on a gun to be built. They decide they can do it and so take the deposit.

They are in the business of making guns and money, not questioning people's taste in guns LOL.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: 500Nitro]
#155804 - 09/03/10 03:07 AM

no im not drinking....but i have been an OU fan since i got my zoli's,to me its a natural conversion most hunters use bolts one plane to look down.the plus that no one considers id that bottom barrel can be shoe a good distance it does not cross.but gunns are like women some like red heads some like blondes.this rifle is nice and what i can see the workmanship is nice also.the other benifit of an OU is the recoil is straight back a sxs torques left and right.i give the artists a thumbs up nice job and when have you ever seen a OU in 470.

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: bwananelson]
#155813 - 09/03/10 03:28 AM

Here's one Bwananelson and it is mine, it's up for sale in March, see link below, best, Mike

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...1&saletype=

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Re: Rigby Rising Bite O/U [Re: bwananelson]
#155815 - 09/03/10 04:09 AM

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no im not drinking....but i have been an OU fan since i got my zoli's,to me its a natural conversion most hunters use bolts one plane to look down.the plus that no one considers id that bottom barrel can be shoe a good distance it does not cross.but gunns are like women some like red heads some like blondes.this rifle is nice and what i can see the workmanship is nice also.the other benifit of an OU is the recoil is straight back a sxs torques left and right.i give the artists a thumbs up nice job and when have you ever seen a OU in 470.

Not sure where you are coming from with the comment about distance and crossing.

A SxS DR can be shot a good distance as well and
it doesn't cross.

There is no difference between a SxS and an O/U in this regard.

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