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How about this forum guys forming a new company & buying our Rigby? There seems to be so much knowledge & skill that it should be successful venture.

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I am curious how does Millers company stay in business? I assume it is still his company as I saw him walking around the booth at Reno, if you have seen him before you know that he is hard to miss. Anyway the prices for some of the rifles at Reno approached the $100K mark, and may have gone over, I didnt look at them all, so who buys these?

I feel a bit of humor when I go by thier booth as you cannot touch the rifles without assistance according to the signs that lay beside every rifle. I suppose their theory is if you are touching crap it will be obvious once you pick it up and catch the smell .

I do not pretend to know too much about doubles, as compared to most of you on here, but I do read and I handle every one that someone will let me touch and I have owned several, one being a fine rifle. I have no problem with $100K rifles (except being able to buy them of course ) but the people who can and do buy $100K rifles, I would assume its not their "first rodeo" so to speak. How does Mexican Rigby, (thats funny) sell these rifles to the people who can afford to buy them. Maybe they get a sucker every now and then but that would not support a company?

In my oppinion a neophyte certainly can see the "etch a sketch" engraving, proud metal to wood fit, and just plain "cheesey production" everyting from the stamped looking John Rigby Co. name, the rear sight that deserves no description, and the action....... If a person has ever seen a London Rigby, how could they ever consider purchasing even a used California Rigby at a discounted price that is still more than its worth ???? I would think one would feel embarrasment showing the rifle to anyone that had any knowledge of fine doubles.

I have always had a curiosity about this company, and I think about it during the conventions every year. How the Hell is this company still in business? I am glad this thread was started.

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Firstly, let me correct something re the Wood to Metal fit - and your comment above about it being "proud". From my understanding, all gunmakers have proud wood to metal fit on a new gun - It was explained to me that this leaves a refinish in it down the track whereas if it started flush, if you refinished it, the wood would end up below the metal.

What we are commenting on in the above posts is the - and in my post the first gun in the first advert they did years ago - the wood work was crap and the wood to metal finish was crap - uneven, gaps etc. It SEEMS to have improved but I haven't handled one lately.


In regards to "touching guns", let me give you an example. I dropped by the Famars / A&S booth one day at a Las Vegas show as I wanted to see the Hammer Ejector Shotgun. Anyway, the guy I asked happened to be the VP of Sales and not only did he hand me the gun to look at, he took the damn thing apart and showed me how it worked - and that was AFTER I told him I wasn't a buyer, just interested in the action workings and I could see that it was beautifully built.

So I really can't understand what is what with Merkel (ooops, sorry Rigby) are on about.


"Hell is this company still in business?"
Who knows, who cares ? I don't. I only enjoy these threads as it provides some humour !

Just my HO

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Why not buy the Company and put Curl, Nigel and myself in charge? I think we could do a better job with quality control, a better job in arranging for engravers and stockmakers and would only require some ocasional Safari money to test the product.

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My attorneys are going to put some "feelers" out and see what's up. If it can be bought right, I'm in. I enjoy buying companies and turning them around anyway, and this one would be a fun challenge!


First order of biz: Bring back the Rigby-Bissel rising bite action on proportional frames! Hire Phillip Coggan as our house engraver, and Trevellion as our stockmaker. Hmmm,, actions and barrels by Peter Nelson as well would be in order.. Calibre range: 22 HP - 600NE.. (Goose bumps anyone?)

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Why not buy the Company and put Curl, Nigel and myself in charge? I think we could do a better job with quality control, a better job in arranging for engravers and stockmakers and would only require some ocasional Safari money to test the product.

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First order of biz: Bring back the Rigby-Bissel rising bite action on proportional frames! Hire Phillip Coggan as our house engraver, and Trevellion as our stockmaker. Hmmm,, actions and barrels by Peter Nelson as well would be in order.. Calibre range: 22 HP - 600NE.. (Goose bumps anyone?)

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Bring back the Rigby-Bissel rising bite

YES, YES, YES

Ross Waghorn as the stockist - lives in Aus so may have to fly him over !


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The problem is, what the hell are we going to build ?

Or will we get actions in the white and finish them off properly ?

If in the white, how about we look at the Italians as they do make some fine gear.

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Shifting Rigby from London to California is like shifting Weatherby from California to London.

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Hypothetically speaking, would the royal warrant be reissued if the address was back in London?
I know Miller got told off for using it ,when he first took over, at SCI iirc.

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Best Double Rifles ONLY! No Shotguns, no single shots. I would make miniature double rifles as well, and possible a 3 barrel variation gun. Though, staying true to the proper Rigby vintage appearances and quality at all costs.

The parts and actions can be cut from CAD copy's via CNC of the originals specs, I have a few Rigby-Bissel guns, so no problem with mock ups. Obviously the parts and barrels would have to be made off site, though assembly, and all finish work would be in house. However, as the company grew, all operations would be transfered to an "in house" only shop. I would want to use the new Austrian remelted steels via Peter Hofer's specs , and hardened as such. There is no steel harder, or more resistant to wear currently available anywhere. All guns would be proofed in London, and would carry a London address, and have the US offices as an agency, for optional retail sales only. No US assembly, for it to work, the guns would need to be put together in London to carry the proper traditions over.

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I remember talking to Miller when he would relate to me how many renowned Italian engravers were currently working on his guns. I don't think that this is one of them. Does anyone remember which issue of DGJ had that glowing write up of the company? Is Miller still in control there?


Dutch


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