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degoins
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8 bore vs wild boar
      #99154 - 13/03/08 09:51 PM

Here's a link to a picture of a pig I killed this past Saturday with that Steve Zihn 8 bore in the avatar. the range was about 20 yards, the ball went in the left shoulder and out the right ribs, he ran about 40 yards and piled up. Great fun!!!

http://carolinabucks.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/820bore20vs20wild20boar200011.7174505.JPG

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: degoins]
      #99159 - 13/03/08 11:42 PM

Great job degoins!

Really beautiful AND interesting gun!!

And a great reality check for those who think that a wellplaced huge bullet is a guarantee of an instant drop.

BTW: What was your load? Have you chronographed it?

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: 9.3x57]
      #99173 - 14/03/08 02:41 AM

Thanks 9.

The load was 150 grains of Triple 7 with an .805 ball of pure lead at approx 825 grs. I havent chronographed it yet. The rifle came with a powder measure that it was regulated with using FF Goex. I havent been able to get my hands on any real black around here so I'm using Triple 7, the measure holds a little over 200 grs of this, but it hit way high and to the right so I kept dropping the charge until it was shooting to the sights. The actual load that this pig was killed with was reduced even more because I had shot a much smaller pig about 20 minutes before this one showed up and when I opened the film cannister that I had my "speedload" in, some powder went flying out!!!!

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: degoins]
      #99175 - 14/03/08 02:45 AM

Oh, Steve said that the real B/P load chronographed at 1600 fps plus.

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: degoins]
      #99177 - 14/03/08 02:52 AM

That little piggy went to market.....................

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: degoins]
      #99178 - 14/03/08 03:08 AM

Triple 7 is such an outstanding powder for percussion guns that I won't even load black powder in mine anymore. It has the same non-corrosive, but hydroscopic properties as black powder. If used with T/C 1000+ Bore Butter, a rifle can be kept rust free with almost no effort. After shooting mine I swab the bore with one patch slightly dampened with cold tap water, followed by one dry patch. I unnecessarily repeat the wet/dry patches, then swab the bore with one patch having Bore Butter on it, and put the gun away. The gun can then sit for any length of time, and there will be no trace of rust in the bore. Accuracy with Hodgdon 777 and Bore Butter is as good or better than any black powder, and better than most.

Unfortunately, being harder to ignite, it doesn't work well in flintlocks unless a priming charge of black powder is used. As this defeats the advantages of the Triple 7, I continue to use black powder in my flintlocks. This is one reason I don't shoot the flintlocks as often; it's such a pain to clean them. Take care, Tom

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: Tatume]
      #99179 - 14/03/08 03:13 AM

Tom,
that's exactly the combo I use........out of sheer luck.......that's all I could get around here and it has worked just fine for me so far.

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: degoins]
      #99383 - 17/03/08 12:33 AM

Degoins,

That is one beautiful rifle and a lovely trophy that you harvested with it. Here's wishing you the best of luck in getting many more fine trophies with that masterpiece of a rifle!

Good hunting!

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #99411 - 17/03/08 06:45 AM

Do anione know why I can not see the picture?
Thanks
Martin

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: beleg2]
      #99468 - 17/03/08 08:49 PM

Thanks mehule!!!

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: Tatume]
      #104294 - 05/05/08 09:09 AM

Quote:

Triple 7 is such an outstanding powder for percussion guns that I won't even load black powder in mine anymore. It has the same non-corrosive, but hydroscopic properties as black powder. If used with T/C 1000+ Bore Butter, a rifle can be kept rust free with almost no effort. After shooting mine I swab the bore with one patch slightly dampened with cold tap water, followed by one dry patch. I unnecessarily repeat the wet/dry patches, then swab the bore with one patch having Bore Butter on it, and put the gun away. The gun can then sit for any length of time, and there will be no trace of rust in the bore. Accuracy with Hodgdon 777 and Bore Butter is as good or better than any black powder, and better than most.

Unfortunately, being harder to ignite, it doesn't work well in flintlocks unless a priming charge of black powder is used. As this defeats the advantages of the Triple 7, I continue to use black powder in my flintlocks. This is one reason I don't shoot the flintlocks as often; it's such a pain to clean them. Take care, Tom



I have no experience with T7. However, having used Pyrodex (T7's older brother) in "company guns" and have examined a lot of guns used with Pyrodex I can assure you I don't use either in anything I own. Nor would I buy anything used with them.

If you use this stuff a lot look at the bore at the muzzle carefully under magnification. If you don't find micro pits I would be VERY surprised. But most people don't notice them or know what they are until large enough to be a real problem.
When I worked for a maker of repros we sometimes had new rifles come back in a couple of weeks because of "bad bores" and the cause was always P-dex pitting. It will ruin a barrel overnight with the right conditions. Testing by a friend indicates T7 is about 1/2 way between P-dex and black for fouling aggressiveness.
The active ingredient can pit bores without showing any rust BTW. It can also pit steel under an oil film. Products like Hoppes turn the fouling super corrosive.

Dan

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Re: 8 bore vs wild boar [Re: Dphariss]
      #104330 - 05/05/08 10:17 PM

Quote:

Triple 7 is such an outstanding powder for percussion guns that I won't even load black powder in mine anymore. It has the same non-corrosive, but hydroscopic properties as black powder.



Quote:

I have no experience with T7. However, having used Pyrodex (T7's older brother) in "company guns" and have examined a lot of guns used with Pyrodex I can assure you I don't use either in anything I own.



I stand by my statement, based on actual experience with Triple 7. It is not Pyrodex.

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