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Mike_Bailey
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single triggers
      #91171 - 10/12/07 11:17 PM

Hello all, which UK makers manufactured doubles with mechanical single triggers ? thanks in advance, Mike Bailey

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Re: single triggers [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #91172 - 10/12/07 11:29 PM



WR ?

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JabaliHunter
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Re: single triggers [Re: 500Nitro]
      #92261 - 21/12/07 08:23 AM

I hate single triggers, even on shotguns!!

I assume Boss made them and maybe Purdey, as they have used ST on shotguns for many years

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Re: single triggers [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #92310 - 21/12/07 01:44 PM

Westley Richards made not only single trigger rifles they even built U/O rifles in 318 and 425. One of Christopher Austyn's books goes into detail about them, I am not sure which of his books though. PM J Tomlinson here - he would know about these in detail, if anyone does. You'll also make a good friend in a very short time by communicating with him. He is one of the nicest persons I have had the fortune to befriend on any forums.

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Re: single triggers [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #92320 - 21/12/07 02:51 PM

IIRC - John Taylor had and used at least one WR double with a single trigger. In fact, he liked the single trigger so much, he said that is what he would order if/when he needed another DR.

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Re: single triggers [Re: Pilgrim]
      #92385 - 22/12/07 07:05 AM

Taylor never could make up his mind - it seems that every other calibre, maker, etc was his favourite at one time or another!

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Re: single triggers [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #92846 - 28/12/07 11:06 PM

Some guys can handle double triggers under stress, but apparently most can't, much opposed to their professings. I know I can't cope with double triggers, especially when the poop hits the fan.

I bought my Krieghoff 470 because it had a single trigger. As the proverbial saying goes, "I wouldn't take a double trigger double rifle as a gift." It could get me killed!

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Re: single triggers [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #92884 - 29/12/07 10:47 AM

I suppose they all make them, on request, but the reason you don't see many of them, at least in side by side double rifles, that are chambered for dangerous game is, because most do not want them.

There are two famous hunting book authors who love single trigger double rifles, and they are Will Stewart, and Elmer Keith! One (Elmer) because he was hard headed, and the other because of his self confessed inability to work double triggers properly, and must have a single trigger, to avoid being killed!

IMO, there is only one item that will effectively take away the "TWO SEPERATE SINGLE SHOT RIFLES ON THE SAME STOCK" rock solid reliability of the S/S double rifle, and that is a malfunctioning single trigger. If it fails it takes a fine defense weapon and makes it into a 11 pound club!

I can hear the keyboards clattering now, typing out the fact that a mechanical single trigger will opperate the other barrel if it fails on the first barrel. Wellllllllll maybe, and maybe not! It depends how it breaks. But it is better than an inertia selected trigger, but only for the first shot on that second barrel. After that on a re-loading of the rifle it has to try the damaged side before it fires the second barrel each time. In the case of a failed single trigger, a single SELECTIVE trigger would be better. That way it could be selected to the other barrel so it would fire it every time, after a failier. I think any other failed single trigger would be a little more stressful, that learning to use double triggers, and is, IMO, a lot more likely to get the shooter killed.

In my opinion, if you can't opperate double triggers, stick to a well made CRF bolt rifle!

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Re: single triggers [Re: Will]
      #92888 - 29/12/07 12:15 PM

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I know I can't cope with double triggers, especially when the poop hits the fan.



Why am I not surprised?

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Re: single triggers [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #92895 - 29/12/07 01:38 PM

Although I might not order one on a gun, I would not let the fact that a nice vintage gun had a single trigger dissuade me from the purchase of said gun.

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Re: single triggers [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #92897 - 29/12/07 02:25 PM

Quote:

Hello all, which UK makers manufactured doubles with mechanical single triggers ? thanks in advance, Mike Bailey




Westley Richards and Boss & Co.

The Westley Richards is a single selective trigger that works flawlessly. I have a .318WR, and .350RM in droplock, with SST's, love them!

Boss is also a wonderful design and works perfectly.

However, I do prefer a double trigger over a single trigger for a double rifle.

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Re: single triggers [Re: ]
      #93017 - 31/12/07 07:28 AM

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Boss is also a wonderful design and works perfectly.


I canīt speak from personal experiece, but I understood that the Boss ST was notoriously difficult to get to operate flawlessly (perhaps a strange thing to say about a Boss, but hey, thats what I heard). Maybe they have redesigned it from the earlier versions. Or maybe that was just from someone who disliked STs !!

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Re: single triggers [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #93028 - 31/12/07 07:54 AM

Boss single triggers are difficult to make for the maker , Boss found that out when the only guy doing them died at quite a young age a few years ago. Like anything else they can malfunction with some dirt or someone put grease on it.

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Re: single triggers [Re: ArnoldB]
      #93034 - 31/12/07 08:34 AM

I JUST GOT A 9.3X74R OU BY ZOLI WITH A SINGLE IT IS SWEET.I LIKE IT BETTER THAN MY MERKEL SXS 470 WITH DOUBLE TRIGGERS.HEY BUT I AM BUT ONE WITH AN OPINION........SHOOT WHAT YOU HAVE AS LONG AS ITS A DOUBLE

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Re: single triggers [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #93116 - 01/01/08 07:07 AM

I can speak from personal experience, whomever told you that a Boss single trigger has problems, has never owned one.

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