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Weird Rigby 470
#91772 - 17/12/07 06:14 AM

I know Paul built some transitional doubles, however, I don't recall seeing a large bore built up this way by him, a very curious gun. The price for this piece is wishful thinking as well, even with K.C. Hunt gold work.

I imagine its Belgium made and was upgraded at some point with Hunt gold. Some peoples kids..

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=86781852

Edited by DRarchive (29/07/08 09:28 PM)

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ArnoldB
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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ]
#91780 - 17/12/07 07:08 AM

lp78, unlesss I'm stupid and can't read means it ain't one of the last Rigby double rifles.
From time of proof to time of delivery won't be 20 years I hope.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ArnoldB]
#91781 - 17/12/07 07:15 AM

LP/78 just means the last time it was proofed, yes I realize that, that was not my point.

It is built on the wrong action, and the engraving on the barrels is not from the firm either, which would point to a Belgium made gun for Rigby.

Not that uncommon for this period of gun, though the way in which it is built is.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ]
#91784 - 17/12/07 07:27 AM

i might sound stupid, and that is all well and good. BUT.....

IS that a rigby action at all.????

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: peter]
#91785 - 17/12/07 07:33 AM

Not at all Peter, your posts are always refreshing.

It appears to be a double rifle built on a standard Rigby "styled" shotgun action.

If you closely look at the top action rounds it has the typical Ribgy styled fences.

Champlin Arms has a typical Belgium made Rigby shotgun on there list now, if you choose to view it, you can see it is the exact action used for said double rifle.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ]
#91787 - 17/12/07 07:44 AM

thanks sinner

im just used to the dip egde rigbys, which to me is the real rigby.
the action just looked like my aya copy of a holland and holland, a nice copy but not the real thing

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ]
#91789 - 17/12/07 07:57 AM

That was the point they made in the ad though

I know the point you are making and yes it is unusual indeed, like the ejectorwork , no rising bite,shape of lockplates etc.
I still think it was all made in the uk though. Just made by outworkers then the Rigby name put on it.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ArnoldB]
#91790 - 17/12/07 08:06 AM

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That was the point they made in the ad though
I still think it was all made in the uk though. Just made by outworkers then the Rigby name put on it.

Gees, that would be unusual for Rigby and the English gun trade !!!

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ArnoldB]
#91798 - 17/12/07 11:31 AM

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I know the point you are making and yes it is unusual indeed, like the ejectorwork , no rising bite,shape of lockplates etc.

Rigby abandoned the Bissell rising bite just before WWI, so of course a gun this late wouldn't have it.

It's unlikely that Paul would have had anything to do with this gun, as it was built some years before his tenure began. I imagine David Marx would have been managing director when it was built. A lot of weird stuff was built in the British trade in those days when they thought they were breathing their last. While it may have been bought in, I don't see anything that looks Belgian.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: 400NitroExpress]
#91806 - 17/12/07 12:57 PM

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While it may have been bought in, I don't see anything that looks Belgian.

Not from the pictures no, however, this serial range is what tells the tale. Ross Seyfried and I have had lengthy conversations about it.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ]
#91811 - 17/12/07 01:32 PM

I have one of the last Rigby UK (Paul Roberts) catalogues in India and they offered bolt action rifles with the option of CZ, Ruger, Dakota or Hartman und Weiss actions.

Maybe they did something similar with double rifles and outsourced the locks to someone else elsewhere?

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: 400NitroExpress]
#91834 - 17/12/07 06:53 PM

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Rigby abandoned the Bissell rising bite just before WWI, so of course a gun this late wouldn't have it.

There actually has been one Rigby made with a bissel rising bite in the last 30(or 40) years afaik, the guy who made it died earlier this year.

Edited by ArnoldB (17/12/07 06:55 PM)

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: ArnoldB]
#91842 - 17/12/07 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Rigby abandoned the Bissell rising bite just before WWI, so of course a gun this late wouldn't have it.

There actually has been one Rigby made with a bissel rising bite in the last 30(or 40) years afaik, the guy who made it died earlier this year.

Yes, I'm aware of one built recently on an action found in back of a London shop. The action was 100 years old, not new, and the gun wasn't being finished by Rigby. The point I was making is that Rigby hasn't used that action in 90+ years, which is why you wouldn't expect to see it on a rifle built after WWI.

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Re: Weird Rigby 470 [Re: 400NitroExpress]
#91847 - 17/12/07 10:27 PM

Sounds like Gibbs who found some actions and
decided to build some guns on them !!!

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