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hoppdoc
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Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year?
      #90742 - 06/12/07 11:35 AM

Missed a great deal on Double Rifle, A HEYM 470 NE , no less that sold for $7000.00 a few days ago on Gunbroker.com

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=86550473

Dunno if it was a legit gun and the gun not stolen, etc but a $17,000 gun for $7000 is a h*lluva deal indeed-

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: hoppdoc]
      #90745 - 06/12/07 11:53 AM



If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck,
it probably is a duck !

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90755 - 06/12/07 01:23 PM

Went and looked at a Rigby today in .470--awesome shape---really would like to take it for a spin at the local range---something about a "Rigby"--was built in the 1920's...
Ripp

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: Ripp]
      #90757 - 06/12/07 01:43 PM

Ripp,

Go for it!

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: CptCurl]
      #90761 - 06/12/07 02:06 PM



Ripp

What are you waiting for ?

They are superb guns.

Was it a Rising Bite Sidelock or
a Webley Sidelock or Boxlock ?

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90765 - 06/12/07 02:31 PM

Y'all didn't notice the cracked stock?

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 475Guy]
      #90766 - 06/12/07 02:32 PM



It's hard to miss it considering he
put a big arrow pointing towards it
and described it as such in the text.

Hence my comment about Ducks !

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90788 - 07/12/07 12:39 AM

Here is a photo of the Rigby..

What do you think?? per my info the price is about $8000 higher than it should be..

Ripp





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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: Ripp]
      #90793 - 07/12/07 02:17 AM



Looks nice, looks Tight, definately has the classic look.

Ripp, need more info......

Ejector
Bore Condition ?


I am a bit out of sorts with pricing ATM, only
just recently been re checking things out.

Will come back to you re price.

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90796 - 07/12/07 02:38 AM

bore condition is excellent
ejectors..
sights--1+2

Ripp

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: Ripp]
      #90799 - 07/12/07 02:59 AM


Ripp

Do you want to post the price or not ?

I'll leave it to you.

But yes, definately on the high side but as I said,
I'm not currently up to date with the pricing
until I look around.

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: Ripp]
      #90800 - 07/12/07 03:01 AM

Ripp

It looks very good.
What is the price of the Webly actioned Rigby?

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: NE450No2]
      #90802 - 07/12/07 03:20 AM

they are asking 34,000 US

I thought it might be worth somewhere around 24 to 26,000

what do you guys think???

Ripp

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Edited by Ripp (07/12/07 03:22 AM)

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: Ripp]
      #90803 - 07/12/07 03:23 AM


Ripp

Yep, sounds about right.


BTW, What are:-
The Length of Barrels ?

Weight of gun ?

Have you held it and how does it balance ?

Edited by 500Nitro (07/12/07 06:40 AM)

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: NE450No2]
      #90804 - 07/12/07 03:25 AM

ripp the market at your side of the pond is so hot at the moment for prewar dbl rifles that im very curios about the price you were given.

regards peter

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90806 - 07/12/07 03:28 AM

26" barrels
weight is about 10.75 lbs

YES--I have held it--wish I would not have..damn it..

It is perfectly balanced--fits like a glove...

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: peter]
      #90807 - 07/12/07 03:29 AM


Ripp

You have a PM - another one

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90809 - 07/12/07 03:33 AM

just reponded..

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #90811 - 07/12/07 03:36 AM

the price sounds like it wont be there long even at 34.000,-$

peter

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: peter]
      #90818 - 07/12/07 06:00 AM

Quote:

the price sounds like it wont be there long even at 34.000,-$

peter



Well, nobody is pouncing on it, as they've had it for some time.

Like the rest of the London trade, Rigby couldn't make any money building their own boxlocks, so they bought them in from the Birmingham trade, and most were bought in complete. Like any other "London" boxlock, while the name of the retailer matters to a degree, it's foolhardy to ignore what an individual gun actually is. For example, some Army & Navy boxlocks came from Westley Richards and Webley & Scott, while others came from much less respected gunmakers, and are not of equal quality. Holland & Holland's boxlock DRs were also from Webley. Regardless of the retailer's name, each gun must stand on it's own.

Rigby's best boxlock DRs came from Webley, and a few from Wilkes. From the photos alone, this "Class D" is NOT from Webley, nor is it built on a Webley action, nor is it from Wilkes. While this piece is a bit of a mystery, the action is almost certainly Osborne's version of the screw-grip, not Webley's (I've owned both), meaning that Osborne probably built it. They're of decent quality to be sure, but not up to Webley's standard. In the current US market, were it a Webley built gun in the same condition, maybe $27500. As it is....I think Ripp's guesstimate is more generous than mine would be.

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #90847 - 07/12/07 03:24 PM

If you like it, it fits and it handles well and is balanced to your liking, do your best to negotiate a better price, but buy it.

If you want to buy an investment, go to your broker and buy some of the depressed financial stocks.

Here's an idea, take what you negotiate from the asking price and buy some of the harder hit financial stocks. If you get around to selling the rifle before you die, but at least 18mos from now, the financial stocks will have covered any "over" payment times some.

Mere $'s isn't a sufficient reason to hold back, if you've got the $'s.

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Re: Missed a 470 Heym- ?Deal of the Year? [Re: JPK]
      #92248 - 21/12/07 04:57 AM

I thought the top view of the Rigby looked very much like

the OSBORNE rifles I've seen and held, including my own.

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