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Lorenzo
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Hunting Southamerica
      #887 - 14/01/03 01:56 AM

Hi, I'll post some pictures from Uruguay in the next days but meanwhile I'll give you a small idea.

Down here there is not too much hunting organization, with the exception of bird shooting and big game in Argentina and a little in Chile (red stags & fallow).

In Uruguay (my country) it's very easy for a foreign hunter to come and go hunting, everyone will be trying to be nice and I'm sure that many farmers will allow to a tourist to spend some days in their farms, that's not a problem the problem is that you'll need some local hunter to help you because if not you'll be walking around in a very ETHICAL way for weeks, and see nothing.

The terrain is mostly open, with a few hills (very low) and many rivers. In the shores of these rivers you'll find thick vegetation, mostly thorn bush and pajonales (tall grass), here is where you will find pigs and a few different deer species.

If someone will ask what will be my recomendation for a REAL, and affordable hunt (not in money but in logistics) for a foreigner, I will recomend two differents places, the Chaco region in Paraguay and the Patagonia region in Argentina.

Of these two the most easier one to organize (always for a foreigner) is the argentinian hunt for red stags.

Each year around mid december there is an auction where big areas of a National Park called Parque Nacional Lanin are sell to hunters, these areas are more or less of 3.000 ha each one and are called "cotos", if you are a foreigner you pay the price by three, depends of the week you buy how much you will pay, the rut season goes through march and april and the first weeks are cheapier because the weather is still hot and the rut don't start but the deers are there, they're just more difficult to find.

The only limits between these areas are rivers, mountains, etc.

You're allowed to spend a week with a hunter companion with a red stag for each one, you split the cost of the week auctioned, then you must hire a guide, horses, food, you must add a new regulation were you must pay a fee for the deer depending in quality (around 300 for a good/normal one), you must add a tag and your hunting license.

This is a big and wild place bordering Chile (andes mountains), if the summer is rainy the deers will 've water and will stay more up in the mountains, so is better to go later.

If not you can go to big private lands (no fences) and hunt there....the first one it's more difficult but can be cheapier.In the private lands you will pay more, how much? depends

In the future I will share information about other places.
Hope this help somebody to plan a hunt in SAmerica.

I've been also fishing (fly) many places (from the amazon to the patagonia) so if somebody wants information just ask, you can do many things for yourself and pay very little.

Regards
Lorenzo


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SafariHunt
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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: Lorenzo]
      #905 - 14/01/03 07:22 PM

Lorenzo,

Sounds good !
What would I be looking at if I would lets say come over do a bit of fishing and a bit of hunting not birds but maybe. I'm not planning anyhting but just curious. Is there specific seaons for hunting and fishing or is it all year round ? What can one xpect to shoot for cheap as well and do you need any guides for fishing ?

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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: Lorenzo]
      #912 - 14/01/03 08:30 PM

Lorenzo

I think visiting South America would be great. Yes please post some photos.

A big problem I would have visiting there is language. Don't speak a word of Spanish. Do many people speak English as well?

I understand there are very large herds of deer in Northern Argentina?

Anyway sounds exotic.

I think BigFive who is also a member of this forum has relatives in Paraguay. He drops in here from time to time, I know he has some projects on the go at the moment.


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Lorenzo
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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: NitroX]
      #927 - 15/01/03 12:42 AM

Safari-Hunt
You can hunt and fish in my country for nothing, consider yourself invited whenever you want.

In Argentina you can hunt for a red stag, a hole week, guide,horses, tags, everything for around u$s 1.500, depends, maybe a little less maybe a little more, it depends of the area, the week you choose, etc, etc

That are the prices I obtain, if you go there speaking english, french or whatever I think you must multiple that by three. You need to arrange it through some friend that takes you as his uncle/cousin/etc, who lives in other country

If you want to fish for big ones is better to pay somebody from the argentinan side and go to the Paranį river, you must think in something around u$s 100 or U$s150 for the hole weekend, guide,boat, fuel, everything.That prices are for each fisherman in a 2x1 trip. You find big catfish and big dorados, it's a 8 hours drive from my home.

In my country you don't need a guide for nothing, and for flyfishing southern argentina (patagonia) neither, in the north of that country (paranį river) is better to hire someone because of the boat.

NitroX,
Language is not a problem in my country, nearly everyone speaks english, some better than others, because it is obligatory in our study programs at high school in the public institutions and at junior and high in the private ones.

I don't know nothing about big herds of deer in northern argentina, in that area you've many deers, but they are corzuelas (braquet deer or something like that), you've two kinds, brown and red, and they don't live in herds, they're very shy animals and you mostly find them alone or in groups of two or three animals. We also have one of them in our country, very shy and very sportive hunt but is more luck that other thing because they're mostly nocturnal (in our country, not in northern Arg.).

Paraguay is a VERY exotic country and a true wild area, but you need contacts as it's not allowed to foreigns to take rifles, you must know some farmer in the chaco region, wild area with plenty of corzuelas, pecari (javalina), wild pigs, puma and jaguar also.

I'm going to Argentina for red deer next march (between the 18th and the 25th).

I'll try to post some pictures during these week.
Regards
Lorenzo





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SafariHunt
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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: Lorenzo]
      #939 - 15/01/03 03:27 AM

Lorenzo,

Thanx for the invite It sounds great but I doubt it if I would be coming your way anytime soon

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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: SafariHunt]
      #976 - 15/01/03 07:00 PM

Lorenzo the corzuelas are "Brocket" deer and many hunters from the US try for them as they are considered a good trophy.

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Lorenzo
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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: gryphon]
      #1013 - 15/01/03 11:36 PM

Gryphon,
Thanks, I know that was something like that, in my country we call them Guazś-birį (indian name). They live in very thick bush so it's impossible to stalk them, maybe the only way is walking the less possible and very slowly at evenings, it's a very difficult hunt and you must need many days in a good area for an opportunity, in northen argentina you've more chances and it's consider a very challenging hunt.

I've seen many times your pictures and they're great !!
Congrats.
LG


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Re: Hunting Southamerica [Re: Lorenzo]
      #1033 - 16/01/03 04:39 PM

Actually Lorenzo brockets would be a good species to hunt,the easy ones are not so challenging,i would like to try my hand on brockets--maybe get my arse kicked but no harm trying.

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