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peter
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HEURTIER 9,3x 74r sxs
#86079 - 22/09/07 06:45 PM

yes i know i should know better but i had to buy this one at that price.BUT i have not seen any guns from this maker, and my google didnt come up with anything.

anybody here know this maker perhaps even a picture.....

HEURTIER (ST. ETIENNE) 9.3X74R BOXLOCK NON-EJECTOR DOUBLE RIFLE, serial no. 970, 23 5/8in. nitro barrels with engraved sight rib, open sights and ramp-mounted bead foresight, manual safety, action face with gas checks, border and scroll engraving, brushed finish overall, 14 5/8in. figured pistolgrip stock with sculpted cheekpiece, palm swell, steel pistolgrip-cap and including buttplate, weight 8lb

i should be a SxS but thats all i know

please help me

peter

Edited by peter (30/03/08 11:22 PM)

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Re: Help anybody knows this maker HEURTIER [Re: peter]
#86156 - 24/09/07 10:11 PM

Looking on http://geneal42.free.fr/Site/histoire/fabricants/armes.htm I have found 1 match:
Heurtier 28 Rue Clément Forissier Saint-Etienne

Maybe they can help you.

On other sites, you find references to "canons Heurtier", so maybe they are barrel makers.

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peter
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Re: Help anybody knows this maker HEURTIER [Re: Nighthawk]
#86184 - 25/09/07 09:48 PM

thanks nighthawk

i just got off the phone with andrew who is the photografer for holts and he will send me a picture of the gun in question in a few days so i will post it when i get it.

my mother in laws family is very happy with me buying a french gun since they are all from nes vouge in france, they are even talking abouth they will allow

me to bring it for som hunting next year(trip in the planing state)

peter

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peter
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Re: Help anybody knows this maker HEURTIER [Re: peter]
#86191 - 26/09/07 02:32 AM

damn he was fast, i do like the service from the british auction houses.

so here is a picture of the gun, well im pleased.....

looks like it just need a scope and then it is game for game

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Re: Help anybody knows this maker HEURTIER [Re: peter]
#86225 - 26/09/07 05:41 PM

A Scope and a trip to Zimbabwe for Eland and other plains game.

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peter
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Re: Help anybody knows this maker HEURTIER [Re: ozhunter]
#86233 - 26/09/07 10:57 PM

well if it gets here fast enough, it can be broken in at danish species. The deer season runs until january and i think 9,3-74 will kill roedeer just as dead as with any other rifle i got, maybe even better that some.

i even got an offer to go to sweden to play with the pigs that is on my friends place, the only condition was to bring lots of ammo and more than one rifle since the down time in the midday will be spendt shooting at fun stuff, he really took a fancy to my alex henry and cant wait to shoot it,

well neither can i.

peter

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: ozhunter]
#100872 - 30/03/08 10:34 PM

well i got it at last.

it got home thursday, and i went out to try it a bit today. weather was not optimal for shooting strong gushing sidewinds but at least it did'nt rain.

i had 2 different ammo types to try it with:

this was a 293 grns rws tug softpoint going at 2280 fps.

this was a 286 grns browning softpoint no idea about the speed. yes i pulled the last shot

with the wind.

so next thing is the scope mount and a scope so i can get some decent work into this gun.
i think i might try the 245 grns i got in the stash.

best regards

peter

Edited by peter (30/03/08 10:38 PM)

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#100875 - 30/03/08 11:02 PM

Peter, nice rifle and nice shooting!!

Are the sights a wide V/Bead? Where are you holding on the bull? i.e., 6 o'clock or covering the bull with the front bead? Looks like it'll only take a light tap of the hammer will put windage dead on, assuming that most of the left windage is made by the wind on the gun not the wind on the bullets. At 50m, I suspect the wind isn't playing too much with the bullets though it might be pushing the gun sideways? Will be interested to see POI at 100 also.

Looks like the 293 and 286 grain loads print very close to same POI also!!

What is the "Browning" ammo you refer to? Is that the old Black and Gold box stuff or a new load? Does Browning still market new ammo in Europe? Who loads it for them?

Did you find out any more history on the gun, as in when it was made, etc?

Nice job!

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: 9.3x57]
#100877 - 30/03/08 11:21 PM

hi 9,3

the sights are a bit strange to me. bead front sight, square notch rear sight so it is hard for me to see where this bead should go. the rear sight will be replaced with a rechnagel sight during this summer. i cover the target with the bead.

the gun was pushed by the wind so i tryed to wait it out and shoot between wind gusts.

i couldent see any difference between the loads poi so that should be good, it will be fun to see where the 245 grns will go.

the browning stuff is the black and gold boxes, about them market new ammo in EC i dont know but will check.

according to a frence guy from my wifes family the gun was made in st. etienne in the 195? he said that we could go talk with people there when i come during the summer for a family weding.

great fun toy, everybody should have one.

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#100878 - 30/03/08 11:29 PM

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great fun toy, everybody should have one. peter

Well..., I would have one if you would part with yours!!

Keep us posted on the testing. These projects are really interesting to follow!

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: 9.3x57]
#100880 - 30/03/08 11:39 PM

[quote
Well..., I would have one if you would part with yours!!

that is only a simple matter of money being transfered to my account......

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#100891 - 31/03/08 02:04 AM

How far away was your target Peter? 50 or 100 M?
Also, what did the rifle cost?

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: szihn]
#100893 - 31/03/08 02:20 AM

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How far away was your target Peter? 50 or 100 M?
Also, what did the rifle cost?

targets are from 50 meters, and it is terrible shooting and all my fault, but the rifle will shoot fine once i do my part, and the triggers have been honed a bit.

i paid all in all 3500$ for it

best regards

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#100899 - 31/03/08 03:50 AM

Peter,

Very nice gun!

Please do take more pictures when you find time.

Good hunting! (This is a hint that we would like to see hunting pictures too when you find time.

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: mehulkamdar]
#100910 - 31/03/08 04:25 AM

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Peter,

Very nice gun! Please do take more pictures when you find time.

Good hunting! (This is a hint that we would like to see hunting pictures too when you find time. )

thanks mehul

the other pictures may arrive later today or tommorow. the hunting pics will have to wait untill 16 of may where our roebuck season start, it would be fun to blood the gun with a sucessful roebuck stalk.

best regards

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#100946 - 31/03/08 09:45 AM

Hey Peter

If I'd known that you were going to spray bullets all over the place then we would have stopped off and shot it before we handed it over

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: Bramble]
#100985 - 31/03/08 06:10 PM

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Hey Peter

If I'd known that you were going to spray bullets all over the place then we would have stopped off and shot it before we handed it over

hey mark

you know that the spray and pray way, was the reason they made dbl. rifles in the first place

it was indeed a lousy performance, and i will try to do better next time, or go to a bigger caliber.

best

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#101082 - 01/04/08 01:38 PM

That looks to be a little cutie. I bet your happy with it.

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: ]
#105001 - 14/05/08 03:27 AM

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That looks to be a little cutie. I bet your happy with it.

thanks 600

today i am very happy with it, i fittet a scope last week and went to the lane today.

shot a 50 meters over a rest 286 grains rws.

to me this is outstanding

245 grains rws at 50 meters again over a rest.

WOW i like this gun more and more each day

friday is the start of danish roebuck season, and it wont be the rifle that would be at fault if i dont get any bucks.

best regards

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#105011 - 14/05/08 08:31 AM

That was such a good buy Peter !!!

Now I am going to work on Preston to find a Red Stag.

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: Bramble]
#105013 - 14/05/08 08:50 AM

What scope did you put on this nice little French lady? The rifle seems to enjoy the 245 gr loads. Who makes the cartridge with this weight bullet?
She is a classy looking piece.
Thanks for the story. Can't wait to see the roedeer you take with it.

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: 88MauSporter]
#105018 - 14/05/08 09:46 AM

Glad you got it going Peter, please post pic's of the roedeer!!

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: 9.3x57]
#105113 - 15/05/08 06:20 AM

thanks all

it does seem to like the 245 grains a lot, so i have to find some bullets in that weight class.

the scope is an old german steel tubed 2,5 x 24 and it looks alright on it.

if the roedeer will work with me, then you will be the first to see it, just have to wait till friday.

bramble yes work him hard and dont stop untill he gets it right. reds, fallow, roe, CWD, muntjack it will all work, if he gets it right.

best regards

peter

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peter
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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: mehulkamdar]
#105292 - 16/05/08 03:13 PM

Quote:

Peter,

Very nice gun! Please do take more pictures when you find time.

Good hunting! (This is a hint that we would like to see hunting pictures too when you find time. )

here you go:

best regards

peter

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Re: HEURTIER 9,3 x74 [Re: peter]
#105296 - 16/05/08 04:57 PM

Weidmannsheil! - feels good huh?

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