Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact
NitroExpress.com: Cartridge Lineup

View recent messages : 24 hours | 48 hours | 7 days | 14 days | 30 days | 60 days | More Smilies


*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***
You are not logged in. [Login] Main Index · Search · Active Topics
New user · Who's Online · FAQ · Calendar

Hunting >> Hunting in the Americas
Previous topic Previous   View all topics Index   Next topic Next   Threaded Mode Threaded  

Pages: 1 | 2 | >> (show all)
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Cartridge Lineup
      #8584 - 10/02/04 05:26 AM

Here's a nice lineup of rifle cartridges. Part of my gun collection.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8585 - 10/02/04 05:28 AM

Well, here's a larger image, unfortunately, hunt101 puts their banner right over the heads of two of the cartridges.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Dark_Helmet
.333 member


Reged: 09/01/04
Posts: 399
Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8599 - 10/02/04 08:36 AM

how about a listing or cartridges???

I think I see a 22LR and a 300H&H, but the rest I'm stumped on.

--------------------
_________________________________________________________________
When someone says a rifle is "ugly," what they really mean is "push feed."

-me

(long live the Mauser 98!)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: Dark_Helmet]
      #8600 - 10/02/04 08:38 AM

Let's see how long it takes our members to "guess" correctly.

I have a feeling once Ray or Mickey stumble onto the cartridges, it'll be all over with. But let's see just for grins and giggles.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
4seventy
Sponsor


Reged: 07/05/03
Posts: 2210
Loc: Queensland Australia
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8603 - 10/02/04 10:16 AM

Ok then, heres a wild "guess".
From the left....
32-30 Rem
8x57 (8mm Mauser)
300 H&H Belted Mag
338 Win Mag
411 Hawk
500 Jeffery

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
mickey
.416 member


Reged: 05/01/03
Posts: 4647
Loc: Pend Oreille Valley, Idaho
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8615 - 10/02/04 01:12 PM

Wow, let's see.

22mag
6.5x55
300 H&H
338WM
400 Whelan
500 Jeffery




--------------------
Lovu Zdar
Mick

A Man of Pleasure, Enterprise, Wit and Spirit Rare Books, Big Game Hunting, English Rifles, Fishing, Explosives, Chauvinism, Insensitivity, Public Drunkenness and Sloth, Champion of Lost and Unpopular Causes.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
luv2safari
.400 member


Reged: 09/11/03
Posts: 1413
Loc: United States
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: mickey]
      #8617 - 10/02/04 01:31 PM

32-20
276 Enfield
300 H&H
338 Win
400 Whalen
500 Jeffery


--------------------
Hunt with Class and Classics

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: luv2safari]
      #8623 - 10/02/04 02:54 PM

Are we going to have to wait on Atkinson???

Most are very close, but not exactly!

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
mickey
.416 member


Reged: 05/01/03
Posts: 4647
Loc: Pend Oreille Valley, Idaho
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8626 - 10/02/04 03:08 PM

I want to change to the 32-30 and the 7x57.

--------------------
Lovu Zdar
Mick

A Man of Pleasure, Enterprise, Wit and Spirit Rare Books, Big Game Hunting, English Rifles, Fishing, Explosives, Chauvinism, Insensitivity, Public Drunkenness and Sloth, Champion of Lost and Unpopular Causes.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: mickey]
      #8627 - 10/02/04 03:10 PM

Why? You still wouldn't have all of 'em right!!!

Now you only get the one chance.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
4seventy
Sponsor


Reged: 07/05/03
Posts: 2210
Loc: Queensland Australia
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8631 - 10/02/04 04:14 PM


In reply to:


Now you only get the one chance.


Hey, one of these posts is different every time I look at it!
Not mine either by the way!

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
luv2safari
.400 member


Reged: 09/11/03
Posts: 1413
Loc: United States
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: 4seventy]
      #8632 - 10/02/04 05:43 PM

I wonder who that could be

--------------------
Hunt with Class and Classics

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: luv2safari]
      #8666 - 11/02/04 04:45 AM

Well, well, somebody is cheating! Dirty scandrals!! A hex, a hex! Just kidding, no hex's.

I figure if it's not right by the time I post below it, then it's not right afterwards.

I thought this would be fairly easy for you guys. Granted, if these were not my rifles, I wouldn't guess them in a hundred years, but you guys are brighter than I am.

Who's next?

BTW, even with changes, nobody has all of them right!

Edited by DPhillips (11/02/04 04:47 AM)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
mickey
.416 member


Reged: 05/01/03
Posts: 4647
Loc: Pend Oreille Valley, Idaho
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8687 - 11/02/04 07:43 AM

In reply to:

BTW, even with changes, nobody has all of them right!



Yes I do. It's just that you have some mismarked brass.

--------------------
Lovu Zdar
Mick

A Man of Pleasure, Enterprise, Wit and Spirit Rare Books, Big Game Hunting, English Rifles, Fishing, Explosives, Chauvinism, Insensitivity, Public Drunkenness and Sloth, Champion of Lost and Unpopular Causes.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: mickey]
      #8689 - 11/02/04 07:45 AM

That could very well be! I must have mismarked rifles too, though. Dang manufacturers, can't get anything right!

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Dark_Helmet
.333 member


Reged: 09/01/04
Posts: 399
Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8690 - 11/02/04 07:55 AM

well, at least I got one right!!!!!

btw, WTF is a 400 whelen???

--------------------
_________________________________________________________________
When someone says a rifle is "ugly," what they really mean is "push feed."

-me

(long live the Mauser 98!)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: Dark_Helmet]
      #8692 - 11/02/04 08:00 AM

The 400 Whelen is a 30-06 case that has been blown out to .445 at the shoulder and opened to accept a .411" diameter bullet. That isn't the cartridge the lineup, though the cartridge in the lineup is an "improved" version of that.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Dark_Helmet
.333 member


Reged: 09/01/04
Posts: 399
Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8695 - 11/02/04 08:45 AM

really... interesting... is it good for anything??? would seem like a relavively low powder charge for a 400??? like the classy version of a 45-70???

either way... I want one!

--------------------
_________________________________________________________________
When someone says a rifle is "ugly," what they really mean is "push feed."

-me

(long live the Mauser 98!)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: Dark_Helmet]
      #8697 - 11/02/04 08:52 AM

Well, as far as good for anything, guess that depends on your definition of good. With premium bullets of 350 grains some have reported (not me so I can't claim how valid it is) velocities of 2,300 fps or so. Should do the number on moose, bear, etc... 400 grain premium bullets are a little slower, around 2,000 fps from a 24" barrel. Not quite the 450/400, but respectable for North American hunting at close range.

The cartridge in the picture above does a tiny bit better, but not enough to really make a huge difference. It still doesn't exceed the 450/400 and it takes more pressure to get there.

What it does give is an easy conversion (though careful attention has to paid when cutting the chamber) for an '06 variant rebarrel. Rebarrel and no other changes have to be made.

If the rifle happens to be an '06 variant in the Winchester 1895 lever action, you can take advantage of the spitzer shaped bullets, something you can't do with the 45/70.

Edited by DPhillips (11/02/04 08:54 AM)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Dark_Helmet
.333 member


Reged: 09/01/04
Posts: 399
Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: DPhillips]
      #8705 - 11/02/04 09:37 AM

very interesting... indeed.

I still want one! :gin:

--------------------
_________________________________________________________________
When someone says a rifle is "ugly," what they really mean is "push feed."

-me

(long live the Mauser 98!)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
luv2safari
.400 member


Reged: 09/11/03
Posts: 1413
Loc: United States
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: Dark_Helmet]
      #8708 - 11/02/04 09:52 AM

The 400 Whalen is good for EVERYTHING! That is, if you're good enough...

--------------------
Hunt with Class and Classics

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
IronBuck
.300 member


Reged: 11/01/03
Posts: 237
Loc: Pittsburgh PA, USA
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: luv2safari]
      #8714 - 11/02/04 10:04 AM

What about the headspace problems that I have read about with the 400 whelen? Do any of you guys that have them see this as being a problem? Not a whole lot of room for a shoulder in the old 06 case for this round.

Reading some of Elmer Kieths old books clearly showed that he liked the 400 whelen. It sure would make for a nice all round rifle for the thick stuff.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
luv2safari
.400 member


Reged: 09/11/03
Posts: 1413
Loc: United States
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: IronBuck]
      #8716 - 11/02/04 10:17 AM

The Ackley version helps a bit. The secret of the 375 and 400 Whalen is overall ctg. length and careful reloading. Load so the bullet just touches the lands...They are both great smaller case capacity mediun/big bores for a maticulous reloader. The nice part about these calibers is that you can get 5 down in most standard actions and use them in standard length actions...easy conversions for the guys who like to screw around with somewhat unusual breeds of "cats".

--------------------
Hunt with Class and Classics

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
4seventy
Sponsor


Reged: 07/05/03
Posts: 2210
Loc: Queensland Australia
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: IronBuck]
      #8717 - 11/02/04 10:17 AM

IronBuck, try this.
http://www.z-hat.com/smashing_the_headspace_myth.htm

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DPhillips
.375 member


Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 819
Loc: Alaska
Re: Cartridge Lineup [Re: IronBuck]
      #8726 - 11/02/04 11:29 AM

I agree with the link 4seventy supplied. Basically, when many of the gunhouses tried to make the 400 Whelen, they kept the '06 body taper resulting in an insufficient shoulder. Also, it was doubtful that many paid enough attention to chambers.

In working with push feed rifles chambered for the various "improved" 400 Whelen variants, I haven't heard of any new headspace problems as long as the shoulder is kept at the .445" as determined by the good Colonel.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | >> (show all)


Previous topic Previous   View all topics Index   Next topic Next   Threaded Mode Threaded  

Extra information
0 registered and 8 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:   

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 5534

Rate this topic

Jump to

Contact Us NitroExpress.com

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact


Copyright 2003 to 2011 - all rights reserved