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In 99% of the hunting videos the guy only shoots one barrel anyway, so what difference is it really going to make? And more than two shots..... only in the guys' dreams!

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I thought that was only on the internet?

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I have two DR's now, both with single triggers!

In 99% of the hunting videos the guy only shoots one barrel anyway, so what difference is it really going to make? And more than two shots..... only in the guys' dreams!

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If you don't want to hear the answers then don't ask the question!

Perhaps to back up my statements you could reference the new book by Terry Wieland "Dangerous Game Rifles"...

And Yes, I have heard of problems like those mentioned..Talk to enough PH's that hunt dangerous game--they have those stories and many more/...

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RIPP, give up, Will is a lost cause! Let him have his single triggers if he wants, it is his butt on the line not your's or mine! Will does everything backwards, he insists on single trigger, and he pulls the back trigger first on a double trigger rifle. but he gets by with it, as he has done some hunting in Africa, and is still alive and harrasing everyone here. I suppose he could fall into a barrel of S*&@t, and come out in a clean suit! He is also correct, he has heard it all, but refuses to bend!

The fact is, there is one instance in particular, of the haveing double triggers was a saver, that I'm personally aware of! This was by Gordon Cundill, with his 500NE double rifle in the middle of a lion charge.

It seems PHC shot a lion at about 50 yds, in the back of the head with a 375 H&H bolt rifle, as that was the only target he had. However, the bullet missed the brain, and went out the opposite cheek through the mouth from the back of the jaw. The lion immediately charged the sound dirrection. A lion can cover 50 yds in about 3 to 5 seconds unless hit, slowing him. The lion was hit ten times, before he went down in the real close charge. With both men fireing, the double Gordon was shooting had a batch of bad ammo, and the first shot was a HANG FIRE,click,pop, #2 click, pop, #3 click, NOTHING, #4 click, pop. So out of four shots tried the rifle fire three time, with hang fires. If Gordon had had a single recoil set trigger, he would have been out of the action after the third shot, but the lion was hit ten times, with #1 being the first bad shot, then three from Gordon, and 7 of the shots was from PHC's bolt rifle, 6 of them durring the charge. To me this says two things. #1 the two triggers were a life saver in this case, along with #2 PHC's handleing of a bolt rifle under fire, so to speak. This was told in an interview with Gordon Cundill, and PHC about lion hunting!

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and 7 of the shots was from PHC's bolt rifle, 6 of them durring the charge

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A heck of a magazine there eh?

As for Will, He is just channeling Jim Sutherland again. Except for the .577 part that is.

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Ok all you very rich owners of double rifles; which trigger/bbl do you fire first?

Also, who among you likes single triggers on a double?

Me? Hey, I just bought a Blaser S2 in 500/416, and after firing 8 rounds, am not sure I want to tap off either trigger again.

(They say the bruises will fade in a couple of weeks!)

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Poprivit Yes I'm rich, but all my money is tied up in debt!


I do own a few double rifles, however, and have owned many more! Some guys like to trade automobiles every year, I, on the other hand would rather spend what I can on double rifles, and hunting, and drive my carrs for ten or twelve years.

That out of the way, Marakai is right, the doubles are regulated fireing the right barrel first, with the second shot shortly there after, this makes the two barrels fire the same way every time they are fired in that sequince. The barrels are allowed to cool, and fired again to see if they are the same. Then if more convergance, or seperation is needed, they are re-heated, and the wedges moved in the dirrection needed.

If one wants his rifle to shoot properly, then this is the sequince he should fire the rifle in the field, at any range longer that off the muzzles! In the field, if the range is truley close, then it makes no difference which barrel you fire first, because off the end of the barrels, both ways will hit the target, and this is where Will is coming from, because he doesn't believe a double rifle can be used for longer range shooting. The reason he believes that is two part, one he fires the back trigger first throwing the barrel heating off, and two because he read someplace that doubles are not accurate at longer range!

The fact is there are only a couple of things that can make a double rifle go completely out of service, #1 is a single trigger! If it breaks in any way the rifle is out of service all together. If the rifle has two triggers, on siide has no effect on the opperation of the other side, so you are left, at least, with a single shot, instead of a 12 lb club! The other thing that is bad is an auto safety!

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and 7 of the shots was from PHC's bolt rifle, 6 of them durring the charge

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A heck of a magazine there eh?

As for Will, He is just channeling Jim Sutherland again. Except for the .577 part that is.

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Gordon stated in that interview, the each time the lion was hit, he would fall, twist, or stop momentarily, giveing them more time, but he got to within ten feet before going down for the count. Gordon chuckeled, and said the lion was simply weighted down with lead, and couldn't move forward anymore!

PHC's rifle had a drop mag, that holds six 375 H&H rounds 5 down, and one chambered.

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Single vs Double triggers??

Single triggers on a Heavy Double concern me for all the reasons noted above!

This Double newbie declares Point,Set,Match to double triggers!!

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Point well taken-- time better spent elsewhere--thank you...WOW!! Is it a full moon or what??

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Ripp all the crap about Will was in jest, not serious. He's a great guy with a hell of a lot of experience hunting in Africa, with all types of firearms. He doesn't seem to have any trouble, no matter how he uses his rifle.

The fact is there is a proper way to build, and use a double rifle, new, or old, there is no difference the steel only makes the rifle last longer, not change the idiocincrocies of the regulation. Will simply does it his way, because it works for him, for the way he uses a double rifle, and he gets by without any scarrs.

This is a smile session, not a Pissing contest, and is all in fun!

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