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Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons?
      #76258 - 12/04/07 09:30 AM

I would like to hear from people who have bought one of the new style guns if they had any problems or are they reliable and shoot were they are pointed? Are they good working guns? Is the sidelock more reliable then the box lock? I believe I asked the wrong question before when I tried to compare them to english made guns. Would you risk your life with one on a DG hunt or not?

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: edmhunter]
      #76272 - 12/04/07 02:36 PM

If Butch's guns are anything they are reliable and accurate. They make excellent working guns. I have a Classic in 500 NE that I am very happy with and did use on a buffalo hunt with great success.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: bulldog563]
      #76285 - 12/04/07 10:26 PM

i took delivery of a PH model in 450/400 this past october and i love it!!! everything was was done exactly as i requested, the rifle is very accurate and has functioned flawlessly. the wood was much nicer than i expected and i didnt order an upgrade. i killed a deer with it on the second day i had it and several through out the season, plus 2 hogs a few weeks ago. i would not hesitate to face any dangerous game with it at any time and i plan to do just that as soon as i can.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: degoins]
      #76289 - 13/04/07 12:33 AM

degoins

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Would you please put your Country or location in your profile? It makes it much simplier for the rest of us to relate to different items of discussion.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: edmhunter]
      #76305 - 13/04/07 02:21 AM

Not a big fan of these.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: mickey]
      #76326 - 13/04/07 04:24 AM

mikey,
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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: 577express]
      #76348 - 13/04/07 07:35 AM

Y?

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: bonanza]
      #76366 - 13/04/07 10:41 AM

The Searcy guns don't appeal to me at all. I have never owned one, but I have handled quite a few. Bravo to Mr. Searcy for his effort. However, he can't measure up to hundreds of years of British or Continental craftsmanship and innovation. Sorry, that's just how it is.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: CptCurl]
      #76374 - 13/04/07 12:28 PM

Not you Curl! I know why you don't. I was hoping mister 577Express could enlighten us with a few more words to why he is not a fan.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: bonanza]
      #76411 - 13/04/07 07:56 PM

I have a 470 Butch made for me that I got this winter after the usual 1 year wait.Fit was as requested. Stock beautiful! Some finish problems , bluing missing here and there, I touched up with bluing touch up pen. Some scratches on stainless steel, nothing bad, I will eventually add my own scratches.Only real problem, shot 6-7 inches low at 40 yards. I talked with Butch 3-4 times, have replaced front sight with lower ones to get back to where it should be hitting.I had a front sight with flip up night sight put on first by Butch, now rest of sights, being lower, can not have that feature.He did offer to have me send rear sight back to him to refile so I can use orig. front sight.I am working with it myself to get sights right. Shipping parts and or rifle across country does not work well for me unless I really have to for major problems.
It does shoot ok, 2-2 1/2 groups, ejection works every time.I use ammo to spec. per Superior Ammo.
Butch was helpful each time I talked to him, I was not expecting the sighting issues though.


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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: 404]
      #76474 - 14/04/07 10:08 AM

"Some finish problems , bluing missing here and there, I touched up with bluing touch up pen. Some scratches on stainless steel, nothing bad, I will eventually add my own scratches.Only real problem, shot 6-7 inches low at 40 yards. I talked with Butch 3-4 times, have replaced front sight with lower ones to get back to where it should be hitting."

I'm sorry, that -- at least to me -- is not what I would call acceptable in a gun I had built for me, had to wait a year for, and for a gun which, at bare bones, PH (plainest and least expensive model) is at least a thousand dollars more than the 'street price' of a Chapuis, Merkel, or a Kreighoff.

Now, these latter are 'production' guns, it is true, but what sets the Searcy apart that makes it worth more or worth a wait of a year when any of these three can be picked up right now from one of several sources? Fit and finish? I have owned and used 'entry level' Chapuis and Merkels in 470 and 500NE respectively. (Entry level defined as scroll engraved and/or case hardened and engraved) and while perhaps done in part on machines, the bluing was deep and well applied, and they both arrived with no scratches, etc. (Pardon me, the Merkel had a shipping scratch from someone at the dealer end. Merkel and the dealer replaced it by overnight with a new gun.)

The Searcy? After a year's wait, the poster above had to 'touch it up with cold blue' and it had scratches. Great quality control on a hand built, wait a year gun. Would you want to buy a used gun with cold blue, let alone a new one? I would find that unacceptable in a $400 H&R HandiRifle and ludicrous in a $12000 hand built and 'wait in line for it' double.

Accuracy? The Chapuis and Merkel came with targets. The Chapuis is said to be regulated the 'old fashioned' way, the Merkel more by an assembly line process. Both shot fairly close to the factory targets with the ammo they were regulated for. If either was 6 or 7 inches low at 40, I'd be ashamed that they left the builder that way, and I would expect him to correct it, not leave it to my customer to do the final fit and regulation.

Sorry, while this may be the only way to 'buy an all American double', that appears to be all these have going for them, and an attitude on QC that is donwnright silly. I thought the sloppiness I saw on one example shown for sale at Heym USA as a trade in (where EXPRESS on the barrel was spelled "EXPRESE" and I was told that Searcy said that was simply too bad when the customer beefed) was an fluke. Guess not, and I will spend my money elsewhere, thank you. I suggest you should too. Any gun that arrives with bluing missing and scratches, and clearly never regulated, should go back for a complete refund. Far better for less out there and a lot better for not a lot more in Heym, etc.

My opinion, and I may be wrong, but I am welcome to it. Dave

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: edmhunter]
      #76475 - 14/04/07 10:39 AM

The first post in this string asked, "Is the sidelock more reliable then the box lock?" The question is interesting since, in considering simply 'list price', there is no question that the Searcy sidelock is the flat out cheapest of any double rifle in current production. So, if you want a sidelock, get a Searcy?

Well, the common wisdom (i.e. a couple fairly astute writers, and that excludes at least one we all see all over like a rash, who seems to know everything and is an expert on all) is that the modern boxlock is not inherently less reliable or long-lived than a sidelock. Accepting that as true, the primary appeal of a sidelock is cachet, the 'look' and the 'best gun' image. So, if you want that, and you don't want to pony up a lot more, are you given a Hobson's choice in the Searcy or is it even a wise move? I again suggest no, and here is the 'why' rather than just 'Dave being Craig, take it as Gospel because it comes from my lips.'

How long has Searcy been building sidelocks and how many are out there? Given the sheer number of parts, and the inherently more complex mechanism of a sidelock as contrasted to a boxlox (Murphy's Law -- if it can go wrong, it will, and the more parts there are, the more to break) then unless it is built right, and you have learned and improved from upgrades and experience on earlier versions, then the risk of breakage or lack of reliable function is far greater.

But what else is out there in a 'cheap' sidelock(if that term can be used in relation to any double?) Again, consider Merkel.

They make a Model 160, a sidelock double built in several chamberings up to a 500NE. (A smaller version -- the 161- is built on the smaller frame in 7.65R up to 9.3X74R) Price? Mid-20s, but that is list and only with the fancier octagonal -- too damn heavy -- barrels. However, they can be had without those more expensive oct bbls, and from time to time, a goup of specials show up for a bunch less.

I got an ex-IWA gun, Model 160 in a 500NE from the Merkel distributor through my dealer for a bunch less than the advertised low 20s price. Indeed, a bit less than the asking price of the Searcy. Of course it lacked the octagon bbls (which I didn't want) but is was a display quality gun, done for IWA by one of their master engravers and the wood is spectacular. And, like most Merkels, it is one accurate gun and should be reliable.

How can I say 'reliable' about a gun I just got? Easy. I have some friends who own and shoot sidleock Merkels in various iterations, shotguns, Model 161s in small cal, and a 160 in 500NE. Problems? Zip. I also collect doubles and have a pre-war Merkel O/U sidelock double rifle in pristine condition and was shot but cared for by the prior owners. Function is excellent.

That is my point. Merkel has been making SXS and O/U sidelocks since the early part of the last century. These actions and their boxlocks are used by numerous highly-respected Continental makers. They function very well. (I take them apart and look at the workmanship, and compare that to what I find in my early English guns, including a WR 476 Droplock where that mechanism is a true bit of art of the highest sort.) They are well built and now going into a second century of production, I assume they have the 'bugs' well sorted and long-gone.

So why buy an inherently complex and relatively new product from a relatively new-to-doubles maker, and one who can't even seem to do something as simple as apply bluing?

I have an answer to that, and suggest that you look at a Merkel if you really have a yen for a sidelock. I'd say consider a used gun, but I just saw a used by nice SXS Austrian 500 NE double sidelock for only $29,000 listed at Cableas, saw a new Spanish or Italian SXS sidelock at G&H for only $32,000 and a bunch of British sidelocks, used by nice, starting at about that same price and going up into six figures.

Or, hold you nose and buy the 'plebian' Merkel. Or buy any number of very good, brand new boxlocks from them, Chapuis, Heym, Kreighoff, etc which will do the same job and use the same loads, for anywhere between half and three-quarters the price of the Searcy sidelock. (I would have kept mine, but the Merkel 160 was simply too spectacular and too cheap to pass on, and my dealer offered me a GREAT trade in pric on my boxlock.)

Again, just my 2 cents, and now more or less valid an opinion than anyone else's but I hope I at least offered some basis for my half-**sed advice.

I now yield the floor to others :-) Dave

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: dnovo]
      #76476 - 14/04/07 10:45 AM

Dave, I agree. I agree very much.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: CptCurl]
      #76479 - 14/04/07 12:13 PM

Thanks much for the straight opine on the Searcy.It appears to be a Double in evolution but I don't want them to refine their gun on my nickel.

I really enjoyed my first "bargain basement" Merkel 470 NE and am soo glad I didn't buy the Searcy 470 I Googled up and was looking at so hard.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: dnovo]
      #76497 - 14/04/07 01:42 PM

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Well, the common wisdom (i.e. a couple fairly astute writers, and that excludes at least one we all see all over like a rash, who seems to know everything and is an expert on all)




Are you referring to the most prolific hunting writer of all time?


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Searcy rifles tend to be solid and shoot well. Switching front sight blades out to adjust POI is common. The company seems to be going through some growing pains, but the rifles come with an outstanding warranty and problems with a rifle will be fixed if the customer asks.


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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: 500grains]
      #76516 - 15/04/07 12:05 AM

Yes, Mr. "I can write on anything, and whatever I say is the last word on it because I say it." And of course, I mean this as a left-handed compliment.

I love it when he is praising whatever rifle he is reviewing and it is, of course, the greatest and latest and you should rush out and buy it. Why? The rag he writes for has a lot of expensive ad copy from this company. (You don't really think the mags make money on subscriptions, do you? They make it from the companies who take out the ads. GUNTEST is one of the few that dump on a particular gun or rate them. Don't see much in the way of ads in that one, do you?)


But I question one thing you said. "The company seems to be going through some growing pains, but the rifles come with an outstanding warranty and problems with a rifle will be fixed if the customer asks."

A company with a one year backlog isn't going to bother to fix problems that, from what I see from owners, is a rifle that rarely goes out without some problems, cosmetic or mechanical. An 'outstanding warranty' is only as good as their warranty service. Merkel, Kreighoff, etc rarely ships out a defective gun, but my presonal experience with them (the latter with a shotgun) was that if you got a bad gun, they replaced it rather than made you wait around and ask.

I do not feel that the role of a customer should be what the computer jocks call a 'beta test site.' My firm did that some years ago for two computer companies, who gave us the hardware to test, fixed problems on site, and let us keep it if we liked it. Thank you, but paying 12K plus for the privilege of helping someone work out a few bugs (and failure to do the bluing right or not send out a rifle with marks on it is not a development issue, it is pure neglect) is not my way to run a high end product line. As I said before, if they want to have the niche as the only 'made in America double' shop, then they should clean up their act, not trade on their customer's sense of loyalty to country as an excuse for sloppy and indifferent work. Remember what Samuel Johnson said about the last refuge of a scoundrel.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: dnovo]
      #76571 - 15/04/07 08:02 AM

I for one was dumb as a post regarding Doubles until hanging around here abit.So much info unique to Doubles here, so little time!

All subjective and objective assessment leads me away from Double trouble is greatly appreciated,regarding Searcy or other manufacturors.Any negative personal innuendo on others firearm opinions is not constuctive, is static and noncontributory.

The clustering of folks who have Doubles here is outstanding!! Unique people purchase unique firearms and have unique perspectives.If you tallied the Double guns shot and past hunts relived, the $$money spent on firearms/hunting on this site becomes the envy of virtually every hunter ANYWHERE!

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: dnovo]
      #76636 - 16/04/07 08:18 AM

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But I question one thing you said. "The company seems to be going through some growing pains, but the rifles come with an outstanding warranty and problems with a rifle will be fixed if the customer asks."

A company with a one year backlog isn't going to bother to fix problems that, from what I see from owners, is a rifle that rarely goes out without some problems, cosmetic or mechanical. An 'outstanding warranty' is only as good as their warranty service.
Dave




I must disagree with this statement. To say that you don't like Searcy rifles is perfectly fine but to say that his rifles are trash and doesn't stand behind his warranty is, IMO, untrue. Yes Butch is going through some growing pains as a result of his popularity and sometimes there is a rifle that gets out with cosmetic problems (mainly the PH model from what I have seen) and rarely a mechanical one but saying that Butch "isn't going to bother to fix problems" is false. Of the couple mechanical problems I have heard of with Searcy rifles, Butch put the person to the front of the line and fixed the rifle promptly. To say he only puts out junk that needs to be fixed as soon as it leaves the shop is discounting the hundreds of satisfied clients (including multiple PH's, serious african hunters and one guy who put I think roughly 5,000 rounds through a 470 with nary a problem) of Butch Searcy and his rifles. In total, I have maybe heard of 5 people who weren't satisfied with their rifle and as far as I know, Butch offered to fix them all.

I have not personally needed to use his warranty but when I got my rifle I was having problems seeing the front sight in dim light. Called Butch up and he said either he could send me out a couple different front sights for me to try or I could come out to his shop and go shooting with him using different styles of front sights to see which worked best. Went out to Boron and we went to his shooting range to test them for a couple hours. Ended up with a fiber optic bead as well as a brass one plus back ups of both. Every time I have contacted him with a question or concern, he has responded within 24 hours (mostly the same day). Does that sound like a guy who doesn't care about his clients?

Are Searcy rifles as nicely finished as higher priced options? Probably not. They are DR's that are hell for stout, very accurate, made to measure and built to a price point. If you prefer Merkel or Kreighoff, have at it but they leave me cold personally. I do very much like the Heym DR's though.

In the end you are entitled to you opinion of course but some of the things you have said are simply untrue. Insinuating that Butch is a scoundrel is crossing the line and pretty strong words. Have you ever met him? Done any business with him? Butch doesn't really need anyone to stand up for him but let me tell you that he is a 100% stand up guy who is trying to put out a good product for the money. I will leave it at that.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: bulldog563]
      #76648 - 16/04/07 10:47 AM

Hold on, I never said or even suggested Butch is a 'scoundrel.' My conversations with him on the phone (I was considering buying a 577 listed for sale by a prior owner, but passed because I really didn't see the need for a 577 unless I was going to buy a vintage rifle) was cordial and he seemed very interested in his products, even when they were being sold used. We had a talk about waiting periods for new guns and he could not have been nicer. My remarks in the post about 'left handed compliments' etc were directed at a gun writer who is rather opinionated and not always right. They were not directed at Butch. Again, nothing I said was directed at him nor did it suggest a lack of integrety on the part of his company. If they seemed to be a personal attack on Butch or his company, then if I left that impression, I apologize to him for an unintended slight.

Yes, I do have several Merkels, and enjoy them a great deal, including a neat and petite sidelock in a 7.65R with great wood and nicely executed engraving. (Another ex-IWA gun.) I am not a fan of Kreighoff but they seem to be tough and have a good company behind them. Merkel makes some rather neat, nicely balanced and nicely put together 'specials' from time to time and they show up on our shores through the importer for a nice price. While the 'box stock' models may leave some cold, their specials are a different gun altogether and their sidelocks are probably the longest standing and most fully developed at anything near their price range including the rarely-seen Spanish DRs.

The principal reason I would hesitate to buy a Searcy is what you may have correctly called the 'growing pains.' DRs, even the cheapest (and the basic, scroll engraved Merkel is, I believe the cheapest) is still nearly $10,000 with most 'starter' guns such as the Searcy PH and Chapuis nearly $2,000 higher. I would not expect any problems, cosmetic or otherwise at this price level or even a far amount below it. There have been several posts about QC issues and while being put to the head of the line to correct them is nice, getting these issues caught before the rifle ships is, to me, the better way to do things. Perhaps having someone spend some time with each rifle before it ships and make sure it is cosmetically and mechanically as intended and shooting well would be the obvious solution. And, if Butch is aware of these issues, I would assume he is considering that or has done so already if newer rifles are not exhibiting these same 'issues.'

Final comment would be that since Butch seems to be a decent sort, and he has customers who support him such as yourself, then hopefully these growing pains will clear up and we will have a US made DR that can in fact compete or beat other brands now being imported. Until then, I will stand by my opinion and continue to respect, but disagree, with yours.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: dnovo]
      #76667 - 16/04/07 07:10 PM

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I do not feel that the role of a customer should be what the computer jocks call a 'beta test site.' My firm did that some years ago for two computer companies, who gave us the hardware to test, fixed problems on site, and let us keep it if we liked it. Thank you, but paying 12K plus for the privilege of helping someone work out a few bugs (and failure to do the bluing right or not send out a rifle with marks on it is not a development issue, it is pure neglect) is not my way to run a high end product line. As I said before, if they want to have the niche as the only 'made in America double' shop, then they should clean up their act, not trade on their customer's sense of loyalty to country as an excuse for sloppy and indifferent work. Remember what Samuel Johnson said about the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Dave




It was from the above comment that I inferred you were calling Butch a scoundrel, not the comments about the General. I really don't see how it could be taken any other way but if that was not your intent then so be it.

I agree with you that many of the reported problems could be solved by someone spending time looking over each rifle before it goes out. Hopefully something like that is in the works or already has been implemented and his QC problems will be a thing of the past. Until then we will have to just agree to disagree.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: bulldog563]
      #76783 - 17/04/07 07:32 PM

Here's my big concern - what happens when Butch passes on (and it's going to happen someday...)? I'd think the warantee wouldn't be worth much then.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: smicha6551]
      #77190 - 22/04/07 04:39 AM

My Searcy 470 (A little over one year old) has excellent fit, stock finish, bluing and engraving. The ejectors are well timed and the accuracy is outstanding. I have used it on two elephant safaris so far and have been impressed with it's balance. I have not been impressed with the Merkles balance as somm are butt heavy and the next might be barrel heavy in th esame caliber. I have sent it back because the stock was 1" too long as delivered but Butch was rushing it out to me for my safari a year ago in March. Here is a pic with it's last elephant.



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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: dnovo]
      #77201 - 22/04/07 12:12 PM

Dnovo,

Welcome to N.E. Look at the number of posts by members on most topics. You'll find that there are about 20-30 regular members who love a good argument, and about 10 that have an opinion on everything. I've seen some really good bust-ups over truly piss-ant subjects. The latest is over shipping Woodleigh bullets to America. Woe be the man who even utters a disparaging word about another's pride-of-possession. It often boils down to he-said she-said briker-brak. My first DR was a Merkel .375 and I caught hell for it (high pressure, rimless case, etc.). It has turned out to be an outstanding rifle with no malfunctions and 500+ rounds shot.

I hope you stay on boared and get past 50-60 posts. Your well composed lucid replies are enjoyable and insightful. We have had some intriguing men (and a few women) join-in but vanish after the first rough treatment. However, in forum like this you get a good opportunity to word smith.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: bonanza]
      #77226 - 22/04/07 11:09 PM

Dnovo--

I enjoy your posts as well.

Qualified opinion backed by facts should be heard.It is worthless to hear no negatives on high end guns when some negatives may exist.And personally I would consider any Double at 8K+ a high end rifle.

No Doubt Searcy can make a great Double but can he do it consistently? His rifles have apparently gotten better over the years with additional internal features(?intercepting sears?).Seems one would need to handle it and examine it closely prior to purchasing it.

Thanks to all who voice what they think and the reasons for their conclusions.

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Re: Searcy New Guns Pro's and cons? [Re: hoppdoc]
      #77245 - 23/04/07 08:48 AM

I intend to 'stay around' as DRs are my passion and, while I am new to this site, I have been collecting guns and shooting/reloading most of my life. (And I am an elderly sort, born in 1947.) I have other interests and am well aware of how some 'tussles' on these groups can get heated. And yes, sometimes pricking an ego can be the source of some venom. I've been a litigator for nearly 35 years and grew up in a household with two brothers and a lawyer, now retired Presiding Judge aged 91 year old father. I am used to heated debates on everything, and still get the benefit of my father's opinions when he comes in to 'help' at my firm three times a week.

I feel that Merkels have an unwarranted reputation as clunky and graceless, a bit too 'Germanic' or mass-produced for some. My response is 'ask the man who owns one' and has other brands to compare them with to form an opinion. I do own several and, as I have a collection of other DRs, can offer what I respectfully suggest may be a view based on my own experience rather than mere rumor. (Of course my opinions are hardly Gospel. They, like all of the others on this site, are no more, nor any less valid. They are opinions.)

For a 'base model' DR, the Merkel is well constructed, and sent out to the customer in excellent working order. As I said earlier, I do not consider any $10,000 plus weapon to be something that should be delivered to a customer in the condition some described regarding the Seacry that started off this fray. Nonetheless, I also recognize the loyalty and interest of his customers and trust that what was raised was the exception not the rule.

As for the Merkel line, they have been building DRs for many, many years and, as I also noted, their actions (SXS and O/U) form the basis for many other makers' products. They are well-versed in how to put together a fine rifle.

Nor are they 'dull' or pedantic in their efforts. Merkel can, and does from time to time, make some very special rifles that are a great buy and a true work of art. I have a marvelous 160 sidelock in 7.65R that is appropriate to its caliber, handles like a nice 28ga, is built like the proverbial fine watch, and (an ex-IWA gun) done with unique and superb engraving. I was fortunate enough to snag this and several others from this maker.

The only issue I had with Merkel is, as one author of a recent work on Dangerous Game Rifles pointed out, they can sometimes let their penchant for adding 'icing to the cake' overcome common sense. I was sent one of their "African Series" fitted with 23.5" oct barrels in 375. The smaller bore and build of the squared off bbls resulted in a Big Game rifle that felt like it had some big game standing on the end of the muzzles. The damn thing was impossible to balance or handle, and back it went. On the other hand, I owned (and sold for something else) a 140 in 500NE that I could swing around like a fine shotgun. Shot very well too. It compared very favorably with my WR 476 Droplock, which is a bit heavier but also finely balanced. Dave

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Edited by dnovo (23/04/07 08:51 AM)


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