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Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe
      #74306 - 22/03/07 09:19 AM

BULAWAYO – At least 2,500 police officers from Angola’s crack paramilitary unit are expected in Zimbabwe on April 1 to help put down growing dissent against President Robert Mugabe’s government, ZimOnline has learnt.

Sources within the intelligence service said told ZimOnline on Tuesday that the Angolan police officers will be seconded to Zimbabwe under a joint Public Order and Security Co-operation accord signed between the two countries last week.

Mugabe is facing an unprecedented challenge to his rule from the main opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) party and civic groups which has resulted in running battles between the police and opposition supporters over the past month.

Zimbabwe’s police force, which once stood at 25 000 officers, has been severely weakened because of massive desertions by junior officers who are disgruntled over poor pay and working conditions.

Earlier this month, police chief Augustine Chihuri admitted that the police were ill-prepared to deal with violent opposition protests with most junior officers suffering from a dire lack of skills to handle riotous situations.

The sources said the desertions and the police’s failure to deal effectively with opposition protests, had forced the Zimbabwean government to seek help from their Angolan counterparts.

“The Angolans will come in batches, with the biggest batch of 1 000 details coming on April 1 with the rest coming in batches of 500 officers until month-end,” said an intelligence source close to the arrangements.

Home Affairs Minister Kembo Mohadi last week met Angola’s Minister of the Interior General Roberto Leal Ramos Monteiro “Ngongo” to discuss the modalities of the deal.

The sources said Monteiro’s visit was meant to give the Angolan minister a “feel” of the situation on the ground before dispatching the crack paramilitary unit.

Contacted for comment yesterday, Mohadi confirmed the development but said the Angolans were coming on a training exchange programme.

"Yes we signed a memorandum of co-operation last Thursday and it is meant to ensure public order and security for both our peoples and the whole southern African region at large.

“I cannot say how many of the (Angolan) police details will come here but they are only coming on an exchange programme that will also see our own officers going to Angola in the near future.

“We have done that in the past and it is not something new," he said.

Zimbabwe is on political knife-edge as pressure mounts on Mugabe, who is presiding over a deepening economic crisis that has seen inflation zoom past 1,700 percent amid deepening poverty and unemployment. - ZimOnline

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: mickey]
      #74307 - 22/03/07 11:02 AM

I saw that on the news. Do you think there's any chance that the Angolan force will turn on Mugabe and help overthrow him?

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #74332 - 22/03/07 02:55 PM

I think there is more of liklihood Zim breaks out in armed conflict.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: mickey]
      #74340 - 22/03/07 05:17 PM

Maybe Mugabe can no longer trust his own forces so needs foreign mercenaries to back him up?

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: NitroX]
      #74342 - 22/03/07 06:41 PM

Looks like Oz is making evacuation plans:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/aussies-may-be-evacuated/2007/03/15/1173722626123.html

John - you are spot on.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: NitroX]
      #74348 - 22/03/07 08:06 PM

Quote:

Maybe Mugabe can no longer trust his own forces so needs foreign mercenaries to back him up?




This sounds like the most logical reason IMO. Other similar despots have often had to resort to hired foreign help when they've screwed up their country too much for the locals to be truly "loyal" anymore.

I presume that the Angolans are being paid directly in Angola from one of Mugabes foreign bank accounts.


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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: EricD]
      #74352 - 22/03/07 08:45 PM

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I presume that the Angolans are being paid directly in Angola from one of Mugabes foreign bank accounts.




More like he has traded off some of Zimbabwe's (ie Mugabe's) interests in mines in Angola (?) and Congo.

A revolving door. Mugabe provided troops to help some of these despots in the past and received mining concessions as payment.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: NitroX]
      #74356 - 22/03/07 09:59 PM

IMHO Robert Mugabe doesn`t need foreign help but a well placed bullet.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Grizzly]
      #74369 - 23/03/07 12:47 AM

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Looks like Oz is making evacuation plans:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/aussies-may-be-evacuated/2007/03/15/1173722626123.html

John - you are spot on.




Quote:

"Australia is a country that helped during the time of Malcolm Fraser's government, and Malcolm Fraser in particular, to bring about constitutional change in Zimbabwe.

"Australia helped to make a democratic Zimbabwe possible and this democracy has now been grotesquely abused by Mugabe."





Better realize you screwed up later than never. I wonder when the US and Britain will admit to culpability.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: mickey]
      #74375 - 23/03/07 02:36 AM

Angola is now denying the report:

The Angolan embassy in Zimbabwe rejected Thursday as "completely false" reports that the Angolan government would send 3,000 policemen to Zimbabwe to bolster the security forces there.

"This information is completely false," it said in a statement.

"It is not the custom of the Angolan government to interfere into the internal matters of other governments," the embassy said in Harare, adding the Zimbabwean forces were "capable enough to solve any internal issues."

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #74376 - 23/03/07 03:26 AM

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"It is not the custom of the Angolan government to interfere into the internal matters of other governments," the embassy said in Harare, adding the Zimbabwean forces were "capable enough to solve any internal issues."






Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but didn't the MPLA (Angola) send forces to support their communist FRELIMO "brothers" during Mozambiques civil war?


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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: EricD]
      #74378 - 23/03/07 03:36 AM

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The Angolan embassy in Zimbabwe rejected Thursday as "completely false" reports that the Angolan government would send 3,000 policemen to Zimbabwe to bolster the security forces there.





Translation - Bob-your check bounced. And by the way, our fees just doubled....

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Grizzly]
      #74382 - 23/03/07 04:18 AM

Due to the 1700% inflation rate in Zimbabwe, Mugabe is now insisting on 42,500 policemen.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #74392 - 23/03/07 06:09 AM

I found this comment in an allAfrica report enlightening:

Quote:

Zimbabwean Ambassador to Namibia, Chipo Zindoga, last week denied allegations that Tsvangirai and others were beaten up while in police custody, saying nobody knew who beat them up.






Another nice one:

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Nandi-Ndaitwah added that the government was encouraged to learn that the Zimbabwe government was conducting investigations to establish who was responsible for assaulting Tsvangirai and others.




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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #74398 - 23/03/07 08:43 AM

I heard they retained OJ to lead the investigation.....

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Grizzly]
      #74653 - 26/03/07 09:55 PM

I believe Mud Guts Mugabe needs to be gut shot then kicked into the gutter.

I wonder what the bounty on that apes head is ?

Iff a bullet dont get him ,the pox will.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #74712 - 27/03/07 03:25 PM

Latest reports are that he is busy establishing a reserve army corps, consisting of war vets, his only loyal surporters. Apparently he cannot trust his regular army which is 40,000 strong.

I cannot understand it that nobody ever tried to take him out.

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: SAHUNT]
      #74730 - 27/03/07 07:48 PM

I've never had the oppertunity !!!

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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #75140 - 31/03/07 10:51 AM

Well, despite this:

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Zimbabwean Ambassador to Namibia, Chipo Zindoga, last week denied allegations that Tsvangirai and others were beaten up while in police custody, saying nobody knew who beat them up.





Mr. Mugabe now says:

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Yes, I told them he (Tsvangirai) was beaten but he asked for it.






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Re: Angola to send Police to help prop up Mugabe [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #75225 - 01/04/07 04:13 PM

Sobering thought: If African history is any guide, Mugabe's replacement will be no better, and possibly worse, than he has been.

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