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450/400 Express
      #71473 - 14/02/07 01:47 PM

I have just received a double rifle built for a Maharajah however there is some text that is glued to the inside of the case. I need help decifering the script, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71475 - 14/02/07 02:40 PM

Well, you know maybe you ought to share photos of the rifle also!!!!


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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: CptCurl]
      #71478 - 14/02/07 02:56 PM

I could fully translate the text, including slang and local idioms, but I'll only consider it if you post complete photos of the rifle.

JPK

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      #71484 - 14/02/07 04:09 PM

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71488 - 14/02/07 05:57 PM

Hello Sinner

The language is Urdu, the top line reads “ 400 bore double barrel cordite type number 3418”.

The person it was made for probably was not fluent in English so the local gun dealer wrote out the rifle’s description in his local language. The lower writing basically names different accessories in the rifle case.

The important date is on the lower left hand corner of the paper “ May 1918” which represents the delivery/manufacture date.

Hope this helps.

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Aziz

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      #71489 - 14/02/07 06:15 PM

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71490 - 14/02/07 06:43 PM

Outstanding! How does she shoot? How much does she weigh? is this a 3"?

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71503 - 14/02/07 11:10 PM

Hi Sinner,

Don't believe what Aziz says. I am an acknowledged expert in all Asian languages. I will give you the true message. The passage translates as this:

"To the one into whose hands this rifle shall come:

You shall immediately place it in safe packaging and post it to Roscoe Stephenson, Covington, Virginia USA."

I'm sure you find this injunction quite surprising. Frankly, I am surprised also. Nevertheless, it must be obeyed, because the message goes on to say that:

"Failure to obey will result in a scourge of the pox on you and your kindred."

You must understand that certain Asian customs cannot be ignored. Thank you for your prompt compliance. The command is so written.

Have no fear. I will care for this rifle meticulously. It is truly a breathtaking arm.


Curl

P.S. By way of further explanation, the command refers to my grandfather, who in 1918 was a prominent attorney in Covington, Virginia, but now deceased. As his namesake, and by ancient custom, I now succeed to the benefit of this requirement and will fully perform all duties to receive and take care of this fine rifle. Thank you once again for recovering this treasure.


Curl



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Edited by CptCurl (14/02/07 11:20 PM)

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: CptCurl]
      #71513 - 15/02/07 03:21 AM

Quote:

Hi Sinner,

Don't believe what Aziz says. I am an acknowledged expert in all Asian languages. I will give you the true message. The passage translates as this:

"To the one into whose hands this rifle shall come:

You shall immediately place it in safe packaging and post it to Roscoe Stephenson, Covington, Virginia USA."

I'm sure you find this injunction quite surprising. Frankly, I am surprised also. Nevertheless, it must be obeyed, because the message goes on to say that:

"Failure to obey will result in a scourge of the pox on you and your kindred."

You must understand that certain Asian customs cannot be ignored. Thank you for your prompt compliance. The command is so written.

Have no fear. I will care for this rifle meticulously. It is truly a breathtaking arm.


Curl

P.S. By way of further explanation, the command refers to my grandfather, who in 1918 was a prominent attorney in Covington, Virginia, but now deceased. As his namesake, and by ancient custom, I now succeed to the benefit of this requirement and will fully perform all duties to receive and take care of this fine rifle. Thank you once again for recovering this treasure.


Curl





Curl, thank you for the comical entry. I think you forgot the bottom line which reads: And if the one who holds this rifle shall encounter a Woodward snap action in the same calibre, then it is written that the 2 guns should mate and have twin 22 hi powers.

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      #71514 - 15/02/07 03:35 AM

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71522 - 15/02/07 04:35 AM

Curl:

LMFAO!!!
that was great!

Sinner.....what a great piece!... you are most fortunate!

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: Double_Trouble]
      #71523 - 15/02/07 04:41 AM


Curl

bloody lawyers !

very well done.

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: 500Nitro]
      #71524 - 15/02/07 04:49 AM

old dealers in subcontient use this custom to put urdu label inside the box becuse most of their sales men dont understand english well
i have seen many such cases with urdu label in my proffesional life
i recently bought the same make in .360 in mint condtion from krachi pakistan

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: Farhan]
      #71526 - 15/02/07 04:58 AM

Farhan:
you too may want Curl to translate the lable in the case of your .360

I am sure it will closely resemble that of Sinner's case label.

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: Farhan]
      #71527 - 15/02/07 05:05 AM

Quote:

old dealers in subcontient use this custom to put urdu label inside the box becuse most of their sales men dont understand english well
i have seen many such cases with urdu label in my proffesional life
i recently bought the same make in .360 in mint condtion from krachi pakistan



Farhan,
Thanks for the information.

This sites content is so impressive!

Cheers all!

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71530 - 15/02/07 06:12 AM

Beautiful rifle!

Nice translation Curly

You gotta watch those Old Dominion lawyers...

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71532 - 15/02/07 06:40 AM

Sinner,

I think Capt. Curl realized I was joking and just urging you to show photos. In truth, I couldn't have told you what the language was. Sorry for too much deadpan.

Beautiful rifle.

Aziz,

Thanks for taking up the slack.

JPK

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: JPK]
      #71539 - 15/02/07 10:00 AM

Very nice.

The picture of the symbol looks like a family or royal crest. All very interesting as well. It's great that a translation can be had so quickly.

Bill

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: JPK]
      #71540 - 15/02/07 10:01 AM

If it isn't too much trouble can you post close up pictures of the action?

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: bulldog563]
      #71551 - 15/02/07 03:05 PM

Hello Sinner

Congratulations it is a beautiful rifle.I agree with banzaibird the symbol is a crest but does not have the classic features of a crest belonging to an Indian Maharaja or Nawab.

Could you tell me a little more about the crest, is it on the gun case or something else.

Regards
Aziz

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: Aziz]
      #71557 - 15/02/07 04:19 PM

Very nice double. I really like the 450/400 3 1/4".

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: NE450No2]
      #71559 - 15/02/07 05:23 PM

Fantastic Rifle. Wow

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: Grizzly]
      #71579 - 15/02/07 10:43 PM

Twin .22 High Powers, the scions of Woodward and Fraser. That sounds fabulous! One for a lawyer and one for a sinner! I'm in. . . .

Curl

P.S. Sinner, where in USA do you hang your hat?

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: CptCurl]
      #71619 - 16/02/07 04:42 AM

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Twin .22 High Powers, the scions of Woodward and Fraser. That sounds fabulous! One for a lawyer and one for a sinner! I'm in. . . .

Curl

P.S. Sinner, where in USA do you hang your hat?



Agreed.

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Re: Maharaja 450/400 Nitro Express Double Rifle [Re: ]
      #71627 - 16/02/07 05:13 AM

double trouble
urdu is my national language so i dont need its translation and it is very sad that my gun is without case
sinner
i will check and put picture of mine there but iam in pakistan and net is dam slow here so you have to wait until my dsl connection starts again (becuse of new lines iam out of dsl now)
and i will put more photograps of my collection.
I have good collection of doubles

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