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500grains
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Is this a good buffalo rifle?
      #66878 - 13/12/06 02:33 AM

Mauser - 66 Standard Safari - .375 H&H Mag caliber
Scope: Zeiss Diavari Z 3-12x56
Weight: 11 lbs, 12 oz



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allenday
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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #66884 - 13/12/06 03:58 AM

Not for my purposes.........

Amoung a number of other issues, I don't want to reach that far forward for the bolt handle!

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: allenday]
      #66889 - 13/12/06 04:50 AM

I would want a smaller scope.
I like a scope that goes down around 1.5 giving you a very wide field of view in case of an up close encounter.


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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: NE450No2]
      #66897 - 13/12/06 07:13 AM

I totally agree with You, this huge scope would be a pain in the arse on a buffalo hunt, besides I prefer a long extractor on DG rifles. I hate the stock design as well but have to admit that the Mauser 66 is an interesting rifle, it's not only very short but has interchangable barrels. A gundealer near where I live offers them in .458 Lott or .460 Weatherby with laminated stock and muzzle break. But still I would prefer a Mauser 98.

Wicked good hunting !

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Kalunga]
      #66909 - 13/12/06 11:33 AM

It might be a good one for the fellows that like a .375 bore and do most of the buffalo sniping from 50 metres and plus.

I don't mind the Mauser 66's except they are so heavy.

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #66922 - 13/12/06 02:17 PM

Come on guys. What's not to like. Geez, just look at the stock. Beautiful...

P.S. Dan, where'd you get the sculpture of my ex?

Edited by SteveH (13/12/06 02:18 PM)


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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: SteveH]
      #66923 - 13/12/06 02:43 PM

That thing is just weird looking. It may be a nice rifle but I would feel like a dork hunting with it.

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #66945 - 13/12/06 09:41 PM

Dan

Is there any Mauser other than the 98?

Nice statue though!

Just look at the drop and hogsback on that stock- YUK!


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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #66946 - 13/12/06 09:53 PM

I had a chance to buy one of these a few years ago at a price almost too good to refuse but I still knocked it back!

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #66986 - 14/12/06 04:55 AM

That is absolutely the ugliest thing anyone ever wasted a low quality piece of wood on!
Life is just to short to hunt with an ugly, PF rifle!



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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #66991 - 14/12/06 05:05 AM

The best thing about owning that rifle would be the tremendous pleasure one would get when he got rid of the thing.

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Mike_McGuire]
      #66995 - 14/12/06 05:26 AM

needs another barrel

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #67095 - 15/12/06 06:50 AM

Grains,

Given other posts I have read from you on the "net, I find it hard to believe you wasted your thime with this post. Must be a slow day at the office!


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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #67140 - 15/12/06 10:13 PM

That weight can't be right, surely! How many 12-pound .375s are they going to sell?

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Marrakai]
      #67304 - 18/12/06 07:27 AM

ONE OF THE BEST WAY TO BE KILLED IN AFRICA, same category as the Blaser and Sauer. In my country, one of the first rules about African safari : no Mauser 66, no Blasers.

My late father in law had this sort of rifle:

A MAUSER 66 (WITH DETACHABLE BARREL)but in 7x64

and a (claw-mounted not a pivot-mounted) classical Zeiss 3-12*56

designed to hunt from a highstand at nightfall. Period.

I can have this rifle & scope, I have just to ask my mother in law.
It's a short and very accurate pricey rifle.
But the safety catch is sticky and noisy, a pain in the back when ambushing game.............and the moving parts of the sophisticated telescopic action prohibits to deal with dangerous game in dusty or sandy country. If You prefer cleaning Your rifle than shooting or hunting, no reserve, this rifle was designed for You.
Do You agree?

PS: I didn't know that a 375 barrel was marketed, as well as a shocking Monte Carlo stock of yellowish wood.

Edited by larcher (18/12/06 07:34 AM)


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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: JTOMLINSON]
      #67306 - 18/12/06 07:45 AM

Quote:

Is there any Mauser other than the 98?





No! JTOMLINSON, I agree, the 98 is king...

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Marrakai]
      #67322 - 18/12/06 06:36 PM

Quote:

That weight can't be right, surely! How many 12-pound .375s are they going to sell?




Marrakai

The average Mauser 66 with a scope weight around 4.5 kgs or approx 11 lbs, so with that big scope that would be about the right weight.


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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Ndumo]
      #67335 - 19/12/06 12:19 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Is there any Mauser other than the 98?





No! JTOMLINSON, I agree, the 98 is king...




In 1966 Mauser marketed this Mauser 66.

In 1994 Mauser marketed the Mauser 94 : a phenomenal flop. It was sort of a cheap Sauer 202 with troubles concerning the magasin and the safety. It was born at the wrong moment when the R93 (in 1993)was beginning to be the rage.

In 2003 was distributed the 03 : at the same time Merkel marketed his first bolt rifle, the KR1. no good timing.

Guess what happenned with the Chapuis bolt rifle, the Challenger, offered during this stormy period?

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: larcher]
      #67864 - 23/12/06 08:03 AM

Perfect....

Now I know why my vault is crammed with mauser’s and only one small bore push feed

Larcher, still using that Sauer 202 ?
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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Yochanan]
      #67880 - 23/12/06 11:02 AM

If you are a woman or a poofter who cant handle a real big game rifle yes a 375 hah ! is appropriate !!!

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Yochanan]
      #67885 - 23/12/06 01:25 PM

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... and only one small bore push feed




Johan, tell us more about your 35 Whelen

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: larcher]
      #67913 - 23/12/06 05:20 PM

Wasn't the 66 designed by Walter Gehmann? Considering that Gehmann was a world 300 metre champion, it was inevitable that his design would be good for target shooting. If I found a 66 in good shape at a good price I would buy it, most probably in a smaller calibre that I would use. I'll never be able to afford a hunt in Africa, so the dangerous game speculation is fun reading for me and nothing more.

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #69833 - 20/01/07 06:57 AM

Mehul,
This was the rifle I mentioned to you on IFG-in 458-worst kicker I ever fired-Am off bolt heavies since then!
Best
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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: eljefedouble]
      #70624 - 01/02/07 10:02 PM

Chuck the scope and the gun will do. The drop of the butt shows that the stock was made for open sight shooting. It must feel uncomfortable to to reach that high up to see through the scope. You'll feel that your eyes fall perfectly on the open sights when scope is removed.
If the rifle works 100% and won't fail you mechanically then there is nothing wrong with it.

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Re: Is this a good buffalo rifle? [Re: Bigfive]
      #70880 - 06/02/07 08:01 AM

The caliber will handle a buffalo. Phil Lozano a PH in Tanzania had clients use his 375 for buffalo and he reported three shots and three dead buffalo last year in the Selous. The scope would be useful for varmits on the great plains of the west. Haven't seen any african buffalo in my last few outings in Wyoming.

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