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fanofdbls
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WTK: What Double Rifle does the average PH carry?
      #64469 - 23/10/06 09:34 AM

I have noticed on my various DVD's and photos showing PH's with their Client, that they usually do carry a DR. What caliber do they usually choose and does one particular make of a double stand out in being used by the "average" PH ?....ie. a "work-horse" DR without a lot of fancy frills.

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Re: WTK: What Double Rifle does the average PH carry? [Re: fanofdbls]
      #64483 - 23/10/06 01:21 PM

I would say most choose a 470NE!

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Re: WTK: What Double Rifle does the average PH carry? [Re: fanofdbls]
      #64503 - 23/10/06 08:48 PM

Not being a smart ass answer but the average PH uses a magazine rifle quite simply due to economics and availability.

Of those that do use doubles I would guess, and from those I know, that .470 would be the no 1 choice.

The reason is 2 fold, ammo availability for this round is better than for for some of the more esoteric calibres, by this I mean in Africa not in a London or Californian gun shop and secondly a resurgence in popularity in Double rifle has seen an ascendacny in the popularity ofthe .470.

In perormance the .470 is probably no better or worse than any of the .450 -.475 class rifles, just more readily available in resonable poriced contemporary rifles.

Searcy, Merkel, Chapuis all make field or ordinary grade rifles with no frills that offer an attractive proposition to an African Hand and it is these rifles that are becming more and more popular.

you will however still find the odd PH with an Original Rigby rising byte rifle or a Holland Royal, and other famous makes from the past, they are still out there giving good service and have been given a new lease of life with modern ammo.

But as you posed the question "most popular" then I think in a double that .470 is most probably the one

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Re: WTK: What Double Rifle does the average PH carry? [Re: JTOMLINSON]
      #64539 - 24/10/06 05:44 AM

Based on a sample of 5

For PG, bolt action, 30-06 or 375
For DG, invariably 470, Merkel or Heym - never seen anything else except in clients hands as far as DRs go
1 PH uses 458 Lott bolt for DG

Their 470 ammo either federal that clients have left them or very dodgy looking reloads (ie non premium softs with varying lengths of bullet seating)

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Re: WTK: What Double Rifle does the average PH ca [Re: Hollis500]
      #64567 - 24/10/06 12:32 PM

For doubles, few PHs these days seem to be able to afford an English double (there are exceptions), and it looks like Merkel and Krieghoff rule the roost.

But by far most PHs carry bolt guns, and I have noticed more CZ550's than anything else.

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Re: WTK: What Double Rifle does the average PH ca [Re: Hollis500]
      #64570 - 24/10/06 12:42 PM

A couple of Merkel .470's and one Krieghoff 9.3 mm is what I have personally seen. Most carry bolt actions but almost all have wished they could afford a nice double rifle.

One gentlemen who did several years PHing for Holland & Holland agency hunts had a staff rifle of a Holland & Holland sidelock .500/465, but unfortunately had to hand it back in with he left the outfitter. He said he was spoilt for life as a result. 'Churchill' also made him a .500 NE as "his" safari rifle but he never actually used it. The insurance they demanded on it was too high!


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