OWD
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Very cool:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=51736225
How many of those do you think they made. If it's original, is has to be close to one of a kind - especially with a rising bite.
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500Nitro
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Very nice indeed and a nice light calibre.
Would like to kno what the reserve is and whether these
types of guns sell on the gunbroker often.
Anyone know ?
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The caliber could be original, but I'd need some convincing. The serial number and a photo of the flats would be interesting.
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500Nitro
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Yep, I'd like to know the serial number.
Mine is 17xxx, around 1905.
Not sure of the calibre and whether it was made this way.
I need to do some research.
Why do you question the calibre ?
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400NitroExpress
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I don't really. Just a hunch.
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The photos are too small to have a decent look at it.
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The reserve is now met at $9,995.00.
Seller has updated his info and stated that he can e-mail detailed pictures. Is anyone here a member of Gunbroker.com and can get the pix?
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500Nitro
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Are you saying that the Reserve is $10,000 ?
The action alone is worth close to that, regardless of the barrel condition.
I would like to see bigger pictures to see if it has been refinished / re CCH.
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now $13k with 16 hours to go
any punts on what it will get to - $20k ??
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AfricanHunter
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I asked for photos, serial and a barrel flat photo.
It never even got acknowledged.
Must be happy with the way it is going and doesn't want to put out any effort.
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500Nitro
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Maybe he's away.
I see it's up to $14+ k now.
I wonder whether it is a Paul Roberts Rigby rebore or rechamber ?
Must do some research over the weekend to see what guns were chambered in.
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I just got the pictures of the water table and the caliber, etc. It looks right and then I saw a picture of an engraving under the barrels and it says Bohler Spezial G-55. I am assuming that is German and defines the steel made to construct the barrels. Is Rigby a German brand?
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I was right. The serial number is from about 1913, one of the last of the rising bites. Proof marks are 1954 rule (which went into effect 2/1/55) on Bohler steel barrels which are certainly not original. It's a rebarrel. My hunch is that this was originally a .303. Assuming a good quality rebarrel, and everything else in good shape, it's worth the current price. It is not represented accurately though.
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OWD
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Check'em out:
http://www.hunt101.com/img/420305.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/img/420306.jpg
And where's the ejector stop screw, or whatever that screw that goes into the lump is called?
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500Nitro
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I agree, 303 rebarelled sounds like a good option.
The serial number is 600 or so away from mine.
One thing - doesn't it look like a Selective ejector mechanism ?
It certainly looks like an ejector but it is not mentioned as such
in the decsription but the Extractors are split.
Any comment ?
I hate misrepresented / wrongly decribed guns
but I still think it is worth $15k.
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I think it's an ejector gun. But without seeing more of the action or forend, I couldn't be sure.
It is missing the screw that holds the extractors in (hole in the front lump). Without that screw, both of the arms will fall right out.
From what I saw, I would say the wood has been refinished and the hardware has been reblued. If the gun was rebbled 50 years ago, it may have been totally redone back then. I think the reblue on the hardware is more current.
Also, in one of the pics, the toplever is right of center. On a gun like this, that lever should be centered (unless it was just put back on the face).
Who knows what else is up with it. Without an inspection/refund period, I think there's just too much risk in it.
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500Nitro
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Re the Screw, some Rigby's had a slective Ejector / Extractor mechanism
actioned by a screw but I can't remember where the screw is located.
I do agree that the Ejector would fall out without the screw as shown in the Picture.
I don't mind a reblue / refinish as long as it has been done well.
Toplever Right of Centre - could be tighten - if it has been rebarreled
it would need to have been done but also, the RB RTB mechanism
can "catch" abit.
I would prefer an inspection.
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AfricanHunter
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I would sure agree with you. I would sure think it was .303 as Rigby made quite a few of those.
If well done its still good and in a good caliber.
It's about where I think it is worth, so I quit bidding.
You all take over and bid it to where ever you think is right!!!!
The rifle could have had a more accurate description to begin with. Definately missing a screw.
Should be a nice using rifle for medium game.
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AzGuy
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I contacted the seller early in the bidding....he was NOT interested in any type of inspection period....so I didn't bid.
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500Nitro
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Arizona
I think he knows what we know and
therefore is cautious what he says.
The action and gun is probably still worth it
for someone.
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AfricanHunter
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Well, I think the seller should be well pleased with the $18,525.00 USD bid.
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500Nitro
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That's not a bad bid.
I see that the auction has finished so
he got his $18k for it.
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Edited by 500Nitro (08/07/06 11:53 AM)
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4seventy
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I think the alarm bells should have been ringing loud and long on this one regarding the possible non-originality of the barrels and chambering.
7x57 R is not really the way the poms would describe that cartridge IMO.
I wonder how many British hunting rounds were ever described as "rimmed" as most were called "flanged".
If the barrels and chambering were original Rigby I would have expected something like .275 Rigby Flanged" or similar.
Would be a nice little double though. 
Edited by 4seventy (10/07/06 04:07 PM)
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