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I have been talking to Mike over at Northfork Bullets (http://www.northforkbullets.com/) about the possibility of a soft point made specially for DR's in .411. He currently has a couple .411 softs(300 and 360gr) in his line but they are not of the best design for older DR's according to Mike.

In the following paragraph Mike refer's to the 458 350gr flat point soft which can be seen here;

http://www.northforkbullets.com/458-350fp.htm

Here is his explanation;

"The reason I don't recommend the regular (semi spits) for doubles is that they are not actually "landed" bullets such as the solids are. They are grooved bullets. Sounds like a case of semantics but there is a significant difference. The soft points are groove diameter bullets with grooves on the bullets to receive the material displaced by the rifling. The solids are BORE (actually slightly under) diameter bullets that have lands that extend into the rifling. There is a big difference. Pull up any picture of one of the soft points and you will see the there is rifling engraving the nose of the bullet before the grooves are ever reached. It is possible (I don't know for certain) that the ungrooved area could impart stresses that an old double should not endure. The only exception to the rule of grooved soft points IS the 458-350FP that you referred to. That is because it is a bore rider bullet. Again, look at the picture and you will see that no part of the nose of that bullet comes in contact with the barrel. The reason that it was built that way is because the reamers that cut 45-70 chambers have no throat in them. The rifling abuts the end of the chamber with no taper at all. Consequently, the bullet had to be designed with no part of the ogive at groove diameter. And the reason the other softs are NOT built that way is because with all the different cartridges that use the same caliber bullets, there is no way that any one fixed length of ogive would work for all of them. But IF I did make say a 470 Nitro soft point bullet, I would definitely make it like the 458FP (bore rider) just so that it would be more friendly for doubles....duh, because it WOULD be for a double."

In order to get this going Mike would need a new bullet die that he would design especially for DR's in .411. Cost of this would be roughly $500 for the die and then I think he has a 10 box minimum for custom orders. We have been talking about how to work out the die if this goes forward because I don't make bullets, the die wouldn't be very useful to me so maybe we could work something out where if I (or a group) paid for the die, we could get discounts on future bullet orders until the die is paid for or something like that.

Would be interested to hear what you guys think. How many of you would be interested in a bullet like this if we can work out the details with the die.

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