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Water buffalo vs Cape buff - skeletal structure
      #52403 - 14/03/06 01:10 PM

I've posted this here due to the tie into Cae Buffalo and Dangerous Game plus also the fact there are a lot of knowledgable hunters that visit this forum.

Cape buffalo are said to have interlocking rib bones. This is illustrated by a diagram on another thread which I have borrowed:



I've never seen a boned out cape buffalo in the flesh. Something I might try to see next time I get a chance.

*** Does anyone have any photos of the skeletal structure of a cape buffalo that they could post? ***

The tie in to water buffalo. What is the rib structure of a water buffalo? Do they interlock as well, or are separated as on many mammals?

*** Any photos of the skeletal structure of a water buffalo that can be posted? ***

A possible source of photos of these beasts especially the cape buffalo might be skeletal remains of natural kills or deaths.


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Re: Water buffalo vs Cape buff - skeletal structure [Re: NitroX]
      #52439 - 15/03/06 01:03 AM

Nitrox,

We used a cape buffalo ribcage as a hyhena bait. Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the bait, but the ribs do overlap and are quite thick, especially the ones toward the front.

We left the bait in the evening with some hyhenas aproaching and returned and killed one in the morning. They had stripped every scrap of meat and cartelege and had knawed on the ends of the ribs but done no great damage.

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Re: Water buffalo vs Cape buff - skeletal structure [Re: NitroX]
      #52460 - 15/03/06 08:02 AM

They do overlap extensively and that anatomical rendering is very accurate, although it doesn't show all of the short ribs.

Below is a photo of the rib cage of a buff I shot in Tanzania, in the Selous, taken one day after we left the torso on a river bank for lion bait.



As you see, the ribs have spread open a bit. They were picked clean by hyenas, vultures, marabou storks, etc., but you can still see the structure.

No lion touched it by the way.

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Re: Water buffalo vs Cape buff - skeletal structure [Re: NitroX]
      #52619 - 17/03/06 02:43 AM

I found a couple more photos. These are of an old cow buff we found one morning in the Selous. This cow had been killed the night before and partially devoured by lions.



Another angle.



You can see the overlapping rib structure, although, again, the ribs have spread open a bit.

We also used this cow for lion bait, since there was still plenty of meat left on her, and we thought the lions might come back for more.

But the lions never touched her again.

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Re: Water buffalo vs Cape buff - skeletal structur [Re: MRobinson]
      #52620 - 17/03/06 03:24 AM

Thanks for the photos. Some good examples.



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