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470NEBD
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Searcy double
      #44076 - 16/12/05 04:56 AM

Can anyone direct me to a good photo of a new model searcy PH,or delux. As posted recently I have handled a old Searcy feild model the stock was terrible and I would like to handle a new model. I like the Merkle, but would buy a Searcy felt like the merkle I would rather go with the Searcy think buying a gun a custom gun from someone close is a good idea I own several custom handguns,though I have never had to much trouble with them its just nice to know were the custom gun dealer lives ...... Thanks in advance



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bulldog563
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Re: Searcy double [Re: 470NEBD]
      #44081 - 16/12/05 06:32 AM

Go to his website;

http://www.searcyent.com/new_deluxe.htm

That link is the deluxe. You can easily get to the PH from there.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: 470NEBD]
      #44082 - 16/12/05 06:33 AM

Also I would go to either SCI or DSC. Lots of DR's there to handle and feel out.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: 470NEBD]
      #44086 - 16/12/05 07:16 AM

470:

I have a Merkel in .500 NE and I can tell you wihtout a doubt that the Merkel is going to be "slimmer" than most other DR you'll find in SIMILAR calibers. The action is smaller and so is the wrist of the stock.

Also, an interesting note is that a Merkel in .470 NE weighs more than a .500 NE! At the DRSS hunt, we compared a .470 and .500 next to each other and they are identical. Even the barrels are the same size - the .470 had more meat on the walls of the barrels because the bullet diameter is smaller - this, we estimated, made the .470 weigh more.

At least this is from the limited experience that I have with DR.

I can tell you this much though, if you want your stock shaved to be more streamlines, I know that Butch did it for someone who posts on another forum.

Bottom line - you get a custom gun from Butch for a few grand more than an off the shelf Merkel.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: bulldog563]
      #44087 - 16/12/05 07:16 AM

Here's one of his "Presidential Grade" Rifles

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.CFPage?appID=36&viewMode=list&catID=43&direction=DESC&gunid=1096&mode=viewGun

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BassProFineGuns

Butch can make 'em purdy.....

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kino
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Re: Searcy double [Re: Grizzly]
      #44094 - 16/12/05 09:22 AM

That pres. grade was posted on AR. Butch himself replied that it is a gun built about 10yrs ago and his guns have evolved since then. I wouldn't call that a fair representation of what he builds now.
This one is probably more accurate.
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Edited by kino (16/12/05 09:27 AM)

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Re: Searcy double [Re: kino]
      #44099 - 16/12/05 10:49 AM

In reply to:

That pres. grade was posted on AR. Butch himself replied that it is a gun built about 10yrs ago and his guns have evolved since then. I wouldn't call that a fair representation of what he builds now.



That's good. That is some of the worst engraving I've ever seen on a rifle.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: mickey]
      #44100 - 16/12/05 11:04 AM

The scroll work was nice. The animals are a different story though.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: banzaibird]
      #44104 - 16/12/05 12:07 PM

You're right, the scroll is okay. The animals make it look worse than it is.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: banzaibird]
      #44106 - 16/12/05 12:32 PM

I loved the wood work. All in all, by fit and finish, a beautiful rifle. The engraving not so good. Animals are kind of Salvador Dali (the guy with the melting clocks), done by an untouchable veneering with tin foil on meth.

Butch now has a great engraver. But my plan would be to get the best wood, hunt with it during a season, and pick my own engraver to do the work off season.

Note though, engraving is difficult with stainless. You will pay for the tools the engraver uses, since he will wear out a new batch of tools on stainless engraving.

I will engrave naked nubile maidens for free, so long as the model is available during the grueling engraving period.

Seriously, if you do want a future engraving, tell the maker. They need to make things a tad thicker. I've done this with wood but not with metal. If you get a flush mount with a straight lock, you cannot properly engrave. You etch. Looks OK, but it's not engraving.

A very good to excellent engraver will double the cost of a rifle. It is art.

For me, hunting is different. It is an art, not art. I am pretty enough. I don't need "pretty" when I need deadly.

Performance over looks. That's where Butch shines. He will measure you 12 days to Subday (he does not do inseam) and you will get a thumper that you can absorb.

I want fully functional, but I want a nice piece of wood. All of my rifles are like that - beautiful wood, minor scrol, but deadly accurate.

"Give me accuracy, or give me Death". Grizzly, 2005.

All those that quote me, please attribute the quote to me.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: 470NEBD]
      #44107 - 16/12/05 12:32 PM



470 Nitro plus extra set of 12 Ga barrels. Upgraded wood, cased. $14,800.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: Grizzly]
      #44108 - 16/12/05 12:48 PM

What is that at the top of the floorplate? Is that supposed to be a buffalo or Darth Vader? I have to disagree, the scroll is pretty cheesy too. And whose idea was it to put an american classic cheekpiece on a double rifle? Yuck.
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Re: Searcy double [Re: mickey]
      #44109 - 16/12/05 12:56 PM

I had thought about a game scene for the Deluxe I have on order with Butch, but changed my mind after looking at many examples. I've only found one I like what do you guys think of the Buffalo?
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It's a bit out of my price range.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: kino]
      #44114 - 16/12/05 01:40 PM

The Westley is nice - very tastefully done. Decent buff. Game scene with scroll is lovely as long as the game scene is good - and it rarely is. I prefer just good fine scroll. Bold scroll lacks finesse unless it is properly shaded.
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Re: Searcy double [Re: kino]
      #44117 - 16/12/05 02:20 PM

How is this bolt 30 grand?

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/buda/fine_rifle/25792026_conco_mauser.jsp

Very Nice Westley.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: bulldog563]
      #44120 - 16/12/05 02:30 PM

The gold kills it for me.
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Re: Searcy double [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #44121 - 16/12/05 02:44 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with putting an american classic cheekpiece on an American Double. Just a matter of personal preference.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #44127 - 16/12/05 03:12 PM

Do most of you guys not like the American Classic cheekpeice? If you don't like it is it because it isn't "traditional" or because you don't like how it looks/feels?

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Re: Searcy double [Re: bulldog563]
      #44128 - 16/12/05 03:25 PM

Both. Doesn't belong on a double rifle.
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Re: Searcy double [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #44133 - 16/12/05 03:46 PM

Are the two main cheekpeice styles found on DR's the American Classic and the Pancake? Are there any others I should consider on a new DR being built? Pics would be good.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: bulldog563]
      #44138 - 16/12/05 04:10 PM

The two main types of cheekpieces found on double rifles are the beaded pancake and none. I don't know when this American Classic abortion began to creep into the continental DRs, but I've even seen a few new British guns with 'em. That's like replacing the hood ornament on a new Mercedes with steer horns. It's leprosy for double rifles. Best cure for it is a belt sander.
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Re: Searcy double [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #44139 - 16/12/05 04:21 PM

It took 100 years to perfect the Double rifle and now Americans come along and think they can improve it in 5 more. Next thing will be skip line checkering and a Monte Carlo Cheekpiece.

Oh wait D’Schulnigg already did that.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: mickey]
      #44140 - 16/12/05 04:29 PM

No Mick, the next thing will be a farking G & H Sidemount welded to the left barrel.
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Re: Searcy double [Re: 470NEBD]
      #44141 - 16/12/05 06:02 PM

There are a few pictures better pics of the PH here;

http://www.drake.net/html/vintage4.html

Not sure when it was made but I think its what your looking for.

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Re: Searcy double [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #44146 - 16/12/05 06:50 PM

Mickey

"It took 100 years to perfect the Double rifle and now Americans come along and
think they can improve it in 5 more. Next thing will be skip line checkering and
a Monte Carlo Cheekpiece."

Coming from an American, I like the above and other comments.

A bit like rechambering to 45/70 !!!

Next it will be TRU GLO sights on an English double.

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