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EricD
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Which gunmaker to visit while in London?
      #40472 - 03/11/05 04:11 AM

I'll be passing thru London in the end of November on the way to a Pheasant shoot I've been invited to.

As I have a couple of free hours on that monday morning, I thought I'd try to visit a gunmaker or two to look at some double rifles+++. Looking's for free!

Any suggestions on where to go/who to visit would be appreciated!

Erik


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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #40474 - 03/11/05 04:16 AM

Erik,

First of all, a couple of hours may NOT be enough.

Allow PLENTY of time to get into the city.

Suggest (not only for Double Rifles)

Holland and Holland
Purdey & Sons
Boss & Co
Paul Roberts - (ie the Ex Rigby Paul Roberts)


If going near Birmingham,
Westley Richards


probably will think of a few more.


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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #40477 - 03/11/05 04:29 AM

I'll be spending the night from sunday to monday in an area(?) call "Chesterfield Gardens" on "South Audley Street" (Near Hyde Park?). I think it's not too far from Purdey, but I haven't spent much time in London so I'm not sure.

I've been to H&H before, so I'm thinking of trying to see Purdey and maybe something else if near. And if not, maybe Purdey and H&H???


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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #40486 - 03/11/05 08:05 AM

Make H&H your first stop, then Purdy; as Purdy may not have any (many) guns to see. They did not have any when I was there - or they were too snoby to let me into the gun room.

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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: bonanza]
      #40492 - 03/11/05 09:42 AM

Try William Evans
67a St. James's Street, London, SW1A 1PH

Also here is a list to help

London Gun Makers




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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #40898 - 08/11/05 01:36 AM

Erik

Go for Holland and Holland and thereafter J Roberts & Sons (now run by Paul Roberts) these are probably the foremost places where you will see double rifles.

Paul Roberts also offers magazine rifles for sale by Rigby (London) and current manufactured W.J. Jeffery magazine rifles and isa very knowledgeable on the subject.

Although other famous makers exist in the Capital, these are the only 2 who offer rifles in any reasonable amount


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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #41176 - 10/11/05 05:45 PM

When I was in London a few months ago I went to both Purdey and H&H. The Purdey people were very friendly and helpful. They didn't have any rifles, only shotguns. However they gave me a tour of the "Long room" which is a historic portion of their property. It was a good experience. H&H was not quite as "browser" friendly. I wanted to go to John Roberts but at that time was there on the weekend and everything was closed. I recommend Purdey, and see if you can get into the "Long room". Good luck! Armbar.

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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #41177 - 10/11/05 05:47 PM

Eric...Purdey H&H and Boss are all within spitting distance of one another! Armbar.

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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #41193 - 10/11/05 11:10 PM

I was in London earlier this year, I conducted a search on "London Gunmakers" and ended up on a site that actually had a map with the makers marked on the streets. In four hours i visited 4 gun makers including H & H, all within walking distance of each other.
It is unbelievable and well worth it.
I particularly liked the .410 sidelock shotgun with the 36,000 pound price tag.
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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #41208 - 11/11/05 02:59 AM

Erik,I would visit all of them !

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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #41210 - 11/11/05 03:48 AM

In reply to:

Erik,I would visit all of them !





We'll see what time permits!

Thanks for your input guys.


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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #42482 - 29/11/05 07:06 AM

Having now returned from London, I was able to do the following:

I first started with Purdey , as it was right up the street from the apartment we stayed in. They were reasonably friendly, but just barely IMO. Apparently they were busy with a lot of paperwork. I was was allowed to go into their "Longroom" and browse, and was also handed every gun I pointed out in the shop at to handle and study. Although there were not very many guns there at the time, and no doublerifles. I asked quite a few questions, about various things, but was a little dissappointed in the replies as the man showing me things actually didn't know much.

I then moved on towards Boss & Co. , and was warmly welcomed inside. The two gentlmen there were quite busy, but said I could do as I pleased, take down any gun I wanted from the wall myself if I wished, and would answer any questions I had. They were both very friendly. I spent some time there looking at their shotguns, including an interesting one with a sidelever, a Ritterbursch M98 takedown rifle, and various other makes they had on hand. They unfortunatly had no double rifles in the shop, and told me they seldom had, as they were only made to order, and that wasn't often.

As I exited Boss, it noticed that William & Son were right next door, and went in there too. Downstairs below the regular shop they had quite a few guns, but again only shotguns and a few nicer bolt rifles. Quite a lot of nice shotguns though, and they were very friendly and helpfull.

Finally, I continued on to Holland & Holland where I finally found some double rifles. Quite a few in fact, varying from a .300 Belted Rimless up to a 577NE. They also had a couple of their new roundaction double rifles, one in 470NE and one in 500NE. These cost "only" about £35.ooo compaired to twice or more for their traditional sidelock models. According to the one young man I talked to there, these round actions are stronger than their sidelocks. Although he probably won't admit he said so! They also had semi-beavertail fore ends, which suprised me, as none of the other H&H guns I've seen have had anything else then splinters. One thing that I did notice and like about some of the doubles I saw, was that if they had folding leaves on the rear sight, the leaf/leaves folded backwards behind the standing post. And were thus more protected from being flipped up inadvertently while sneaking thru the bush. It looked a bit untraditional, but seems like a good idea.

The staff I talked to at H&H were all friendly and helpfull, and in addition, H&H had the most guns to handle and look at of the 4 places I had time to visit. So if short on time, that's the first place I'd go to again if I wanted to see some double rifles in that area of London.

As morning turned to noon, I was eventually out of time, and had to return to the others for lunch before driving off to Woodstock were we were to go Pheasand and Partridge shooting for a couple of days. But that's another story.

Erik


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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: EricD]
      #42492 - 29/11/05 10:15 AM

A good day I would guess.

Having the leaves behind the fixed leaf could lead to them popping up in recoil. This could screw you up a bit if you didn't notice.

Next time pop into William Evans also. Great people.

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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: mickey]
      #42497 - 29/11/05 11:01 AM

Erik,
Thanks for the report! Hope your visit and hunt were good!

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Re: Which gunmaker to visit while in London? [Re: mickey]
      #42628 - 30/11/05 06:49 PM

In reply to:

Having the leaves behind the fixed leaf could lead to them popping up in recoil. This could screw you up a bit if you didn't notice.





Mickey,

I hadn't seen the above sight option before on any guns I've handled. Are there other manufacturers that have tried this with the bad results you mention that you know of?

Erik


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