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A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards.
      #391578 - 14/05/25 06:12 PM



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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #391579 - 14/05/25 07:41 PM

Very fancy rig indeed!

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #391581 - 14/05/25 10:08 PM

Very nice indeed!
Hard to improve, but my choice for a 2-barrel takedown on a magnum-length Mauser would be .375 H&H and .300 H&H.
Also nice that they have used that older Deeley-style latch.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Marrakai]
      #391582 - 14/05/25 10:56 PM

Quote:

Very nice indeed!
Hard to improve, but my choice for a 2-barrel takedown on a magnum-length Mauser would be .375 H&H and .300 H&H.
Also nice that they have used that older Deeley-style latch.




Yes.

If it was for me definitely a dual h&h choice.

And a far plainer working rifle with a few custom embellishments.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: NitroX]
      #391589 - 15/05/25 06:31 AM

Nice.

An all WR dual barrel set up would be interesting.

.318 & .425


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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Marrakai]
      #391590 - 15/05/25 07:20 AM

Tony, according to what WR have said in recent posts is that they have switched across to the Deely Latch for all their take-down rifles. Certainly all the ones they have shown over the last couple of years have that system.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #391592 - 15/05/25 07:49 AM

"Westley Richards has applied two types of take-down system over the years; the old bayonet type and the screw-thread, which is used here.

The original bayonet fitting was replaced around 1908 with the screw-thread but we have recently re-engineered the bayonet system using modern machinery, which removes its shortcomings and fashions each section from a solid billet.

We can, therefore, now offer customers a choice."


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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Claydog]
      #391594 - 15/05/25 09:24 AM

Claydog, that is correct however in this case we were referring to the take-down locking latch on the forend rather than the type of locking thread used on the barrel.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #391596 - 15/05/25 01:01 PM

Matt,
Roger that.


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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: m239]
      #391601 - 15/05/25 05:50 PM

Quote:

Nice.

An all WR dual barrel set up would be interesting.

.318 & .425




That would be a good choice.

Do they use the same bolt head size?

Also the magazine construction might be an issue? I noted WR mentioned a lot of work on the magazine. I think a 300 and 375 H&H would fit close enough. One of these has been a dream of mine since 1994 .

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. *DELETED* [Re: NitroX]
      #391604 - 16/05/25 03:14 AM

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: DarylS]
      #391609 - 16/05/25 06:04 AM

Yes I think it would be quite the challenge (or impossible?) to get a magazine / feed rail arrangement to cooperate with 318 and 425

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: m239]
      #391611 - 16/05/25 08:26 AM

Mark, you would be better of having a two gun battery for those two cartridges.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #391615 - 17/05/25 05:56 AM

Hey Matt - yep I think so. It's definately on my list of 'batteries I'd like' ;-)

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: m239]
      #391616 - 17/05/25 08:03 AM

Quote:

Hey Matt - yep I think so. It's definately on my list of 'batteries I'd like' ;-)




Makes 2 of us.


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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: Rule303]
      #391617 - 18/05/25 12:16 AM

.425 WR has a reported rim dis of .467".
The .318 has a rim dia of .464". The boalt face for the .425" should work just fine on the Rigby ctg.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: DarylS]
      #391864 - 06/06/25 10:54 AM

Very cool rifle. However, it’s been my experience in Africa that if you have 2 guns with you , you always have the wrong gun in your hand. Unless the gun is a .375. Either in a bolt action or a double, It will work on everything !!!!! I cant imagine having the .300 barrel on when you “stumble” onto a big buffalo. Don’t get me wrong a switch barrel rifle is very cool, just don’t know how practical it is? And, that’s not to take anything from this setup, just my 2 cents.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #391865 - 06/06/25 03:18 PM

Quote:

Very cool rifle. However, it’s been my experience in Africa that if you have 2 guns with you , you always have the wrong gun in your hand. Unless the gun is a .375. Either in a bolt action or a double, It will work on everything !!!!! I cant imagine having the .300 barrel on when you “stumble” onto a big buffalo. Don’t get me wrong a switch barrel rifle is very cool, just don’t know how practical it is? And, that’s not to take anything from this setup, just my 2 cents.




The switch barrel can be chosen for different hunts.

It's a bit silly to use a
375 on a purely plains game hunt. Unless one wants to.

Or if hunting mountain game, deer etc.

I recognised this limitation. So I purchased two Mauser M03 switch barrel rifles. With four barrels. I can have a 8x68S and a .404 at the same time.

And carry them in a shorter gun case.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: NitroX]
      #391879 - 06/06/25 09:29 PM

Totally agree John. I guess I was thinking more of a “General Bag Safari” , If you are traveling for a specific animal , I guess it would be just fine.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #391882 - 07/06/25 01:26 AM

My first safari my .30-06 did the lot from duiker to eland. Worked mostly fine when the bullets performed. Funny one idiot PH in the camp said a .30-06 was too light for eland. So Wayne my PH wanted to prove him wrong. And I did.

I did feel for a dedicated medium game trophy hunting rifle something slightly more powerful and flatter shooting might be good. So I later opted for a 8x68S. A .300 Magnum.is often the choice.

My second safari in South Africa and Zimbabwe was mainly for Cape buffalo was with a .375 H&H Magnum. But also Waterbuck, impala, zebra, bushbuck.

My third safari aiming at elephant my .450 NE DR was the main rifle. But i also took my 9.3x74R. I also borrowed Karl Stumpfe's M98 in 8x68S. Elephant, gemsbok, springbok, hartebeest, zebra and s numbervof warthog.

A problem with modern hunting travel is it can be impractical or two costly to take more than one rifle. Due to airlines luggage weight restrictions. So a compromise rifle might be needed. A switch barrel rifle might prove an even better compromise.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: NitroX]
      #391889 - 07/06/25 05:12 AM

Interesting about the '06 not being enough for Eland. Lately, I've watched a video, twice, of a chap shooting an Eland with a 350gr. FN cast bullet from a German Company's rifle called an "Umarex" Hammer .50 cal.(rifle made in the USA). The Eland walked slowly, kind of in a 1/2 circle, maybe 25 to 30yds and dropped dead.
That rifle is an air rifle, developing about 870fps muzzle vel. & producing about 866fpe.
Impressed I was, so I bought one. LOL - fun to shoot and actually recoils(but not much)


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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: DarylS]
      #391891 - 07/06/25 08:42 AM

I ran into an old Zimbabwe farmer years ago, he had 1 gun it was a beautiful Manlicher Rifle in a 30/06. Said he’d killed everything from duiker to elephant with it. Still had several boxes of Kynoch 220 grain solids.
I’ve used a 7x57 on a couple of Eland, it’s plenty of gun (I suspect a 30/06 would be even better)


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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #391897 - 08/06/25 06:41 PM

As I said the other PH in the camp was a bit of an idiot and a middle aged wannabe.

I used 200 gr Nosler Semi pointed Partitions. A bullet no longer made.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: NitroX]
      #391899 - 08/06/25 07:38 PM

I do have some 180gr. Spitzer partitions for the '06, but haven't tried them yet. The rifle likes IMR4451, H4350 & W760/H414 with 180gr. Hornady SST's.

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Re: A Two Barrel Take-down Rifle By Westley Richards. [Re: DarylS]
      #391901 - 08/06/25 08:08 PM

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I do have some 180gr. Spitzer partitions for the '06, but haven't tried them yet. The rifle likes IMR4451, H4350 & W760/H414 with 180gr. Hornady SST's.




By chance I took 180 gr Spitzer Partitions and 200 gr Semi Pointed Partitions. Shot to a similar point of impact.

My batch of 180s, normally reputed to be a very good bullets were failing. Acting like a FMJ. I believe the front half was blowing off in a shallow wound. The shank acted ike a FMJ. Wounded animals with follow ups. I switched to the 200 grs immediate improvement. Judea, the tracker thought it was a different rifle.

But I used the same handloads of 180 grs on my sambar stag. No problems. Ran less than 50 metres and crashed down dead in the middle of a blackberry patch.

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