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chapmen
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On the search- Thieme/Schlegelmilch / Nimrod Verschluss
#389638 - 14/02/25 07:46 PM

When searching...... for the "Nimrod - Nasenverschluss" made bythe Suhl rifle factory Thieme&Schlegelmilch, one comes across weapons that explicitly refer to a patent for the breech. Not all weapons with this locking system bear this marking.

A search in the magazine "Waffenschmied" from the period 1895-1910 reveals only one DRGM (this is not an patent!) with the number 136215, which describes a rifle breech.

A search in the DEPATIS patent database with various keywords yields no hits.

There is also no reference to a patent or a patent number in my relevant literature.

Was a patent granted for the "nose lock" or is the information on the weapons misleading?

Here is an example, taken from

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/printthre...amp;type=thread

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some fine old guns from germany :
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Edited by chapmen (14/02/25 07:55 PM)

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Re: On the search- Thieme/Schlegelmilch / Nimrod Verschluss [Re: chapmen]
#389639 - 14/02/25 08:29 PM

this sounds not very promising, you know that a good part of the pre 1945 german patents are lost forever and when you can't find it with DEPATIS its probably one of them. "Der Waffenschmied" would be the second chance but now you can only look into the old hunting magazines if they have something about such a "novelty".
but this would be a long search without knowing the timeframe.

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chapmen
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Re: On the search- Thieme/Schlegelmilch / Nimrod Verschluss [Re: lancaster]
#389641 - 14/02/25 08:46 PM

Timeframe should be around 1895 untill 1905, that would be also the timeframe for the DRGM first issue and the extending of it.

Because there is nowhere any info about an patent, not in old literature, not in new, not in related articles i think there was never an patent issued.

It makes no sense to get an DRGM and Patent at the same time, so i think they have planned to patent it, but used the cheaper way of an DRGM.

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Re: On the search- Thieme/Schlegelmilch / Nimrod Verschluss [Re: chapmen]
#389642 - 14/02/25 08:56 PM

and the cheapest way would have been if they had no new patent at all but try to pretend to have a "patent" and use this for advertising but in reality if you look close it was some old patent for something different.

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