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And a Westley Richards 1879 era label.
WESTLEY RICHARDS
170 New Bond St.
LONDON

The gun was built as a 10 bore in 1879, for WC Wood Esq. on behalf of P. Orr & Sons, Madras, India.

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https://www.henrykrank.com/media/catalog.../4/9424A_01.jpg

https://www.henrykrank.com/westley-richa...se-label-9424a/
Westley Richards and Co - Birmingham and 170 New Bond St, London Trade Gun Case Label





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And perhaps the most comprehensive listing of all, from whom I have acquired a few repro labels in the past:

Peter Dyson & Son Ltd

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Marrakai, what label do you use for your Jeffery .450/400?

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all very pricey - my home made labels on parchment paper cost about $1 to make.

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What quality level/size/pixels etc does an image have to be for a label to be printed from?

What software did you use to create your custom labels? Adding bits to them, rearranging text etc, ?

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What quality level/size/pixels etc does an image have to be for a label to be printed from?
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I am not sure about pixels ? .... I just find images on the internet and re-arrange them as required using an old version of Paint Shop Pro software. I buy the antiqued parchment style paper from Amazon.

here are other examples ...



















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Marrakai, what label do you use for your Jeffery .450/400?

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John: I acquired a case from a defunct .333 Jeffery double with the same length barrels, oak and leather with brass corners, and subsequently acquired an original leather trade label. Unsurprisingly, Jeffery's doubles were all sized exactly for their proprietary cartridges, and the .400 is a tight fit in the .333 case despite the same chambering head-size.

Buckstix: The majority of my trade labels are made using Adobe Photoshop and cost less than a dollar too, but early on I bought Army & Navy, and Colt Pistol card labels, from Dysons. I regarded them as cheap. Also bought a Watson & Hancock trade label once, simply because it featured a really cool vintage hunting scene involving tigers being shot from howdahs, although I will never own a Watson & Hancock gun!

...and I make prolific vintage cartridge box labels by Eley, Kynoch, Nobel etc and tie the packets up with string, just for the pleasure of ripping them open to spill the cartridges out on the bench at big game rifle shoots!

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John: I acquired a case from a defunct .333 Jeffery double with the same length barrels, oak and leather with brass corners, and subsequently acquired an original leather trade label. Unsurprisingly, Jeffery's doubles were all sized exactly for their proprietary cartridges, and the .400 is a tight fit in the .333 case despite the same chambering head-size.

Buckstix: The majority of my trade labels are made using Adobe Photoshop and cost less than a dollar too, but early on I bought Army & Navy, and Colt Pistol card labels, from Dysons. I regarded them as cheap. Also bought a Watson & Hancock trade label once, simply because it featured a really cool vintage hunting scene involving tigers being shot from howdahs, although I will never own a Watson & Hancock gun!

...and I make prolific vintage cartridge box labels by Eley, Kynoch, Nobel etc and tie the packets up with string, just for the pleasure of ripping them open to spill the cartridges out on the bench at a big game rifle shoot!

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Marrakai,

You are not permitted to utter such names without also displaying the images of all those labels.

I like that idea of ammo box paper. Much more stylish that a plastic MTM box.

Buckstix,

Thank you for all those images. They look excellent.

I'm guessing from your answer and the usual internet quality of images, a fairly los quality image works for a label size reprinting. One will know when one tries.

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John:
Since we both appear to have double guns retailed by my distant relative Peter Orr during the Raj,
and trade labels from P. Orr & Sons are rare as rocking-horse sh!t these days,
I offer the following rendition I composed many years ago using fonts and a crest from one of their period jeweler/watch-maker adverts:




Just recently I was graciously sent a few photos of an original P. Orr & Sons trade label from a case in which a Bernadelli shotgun was housed.
Had the gun been engraved with P.Orr as retailer I would have bought it, but had to settle for the pics.



This label is for a gun retailed in Burma, not India,
but a reshuffle of the retail outlets on a new rendition could swap Rangoon for Madras for an India-retailed gun.
Phone number would need to be changed too: I have the Madras number in my files somewhere.
Interesting that the Rangoon address is Phayre Street, when their jewelry and watch-making address was Sule Pagoda Road.
Perhaps they maintained a separate address for the sporting goods outlet, or perhaps they moved at some point, more research needed. Fun!
As an aside, I have been to the Sule Pagoda Road address in Myanmar (Burma).
Unfortunately, it had been recently redeveloped by Rado in plate glass and shiny modern architecture.
I would have much preferred my "selfie" to have been standing in front of the old rustic shopfront!

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Here is a pic of the brand new (old stock) Jeffery leather trade label I acquired many years ago,
from an out-worker supplying gun-cases to the trade. I am guessing the Jeffery orders had long since dried up,
and iirc the widow was selling off stuff from the workshop following the death of the case-maker.



Unfortunately, my .400NE double is engraved with the Golden Square address.
...but hey, very few admirers would notice that!

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Seems that (at least in the USA) all things Peter Orr are scarce as Rocking Horse manure….

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No case, but if I ever get one I now know where to source inspiration for a proper case label.

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Marrskai has special case labels with a drawing of his face as centrepiece, title "The Great Orr" available on special request.

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Here is a pic of the brand new (old stock) Jeffery leather trade label I acquired many years ago,
from an out-worker supplying gun-cases to the trade. I am guessing the Jeffery orders had long since dried up,
and iirc the widow was selling off stuff from the workshop following the death of the case-maker.



Unfortunately, my .400NE double is engraved with the Golden Square address.
...but hey, very few admirers would notice that!

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That's more like it. Better that "negative" version, light on dark, than the dark on light which looks much plainer.

Thanks very much for posting. Really cool the angle too, adding lots of fun time to staighten it up for recreating. Joking. Thanks for posting.

Cool that the Orr retailer of India was a relative.

I'm not sure if my Jeffery was Orr retailed. The Orr retailer comment related to the WR 10-bore. That comment came from an original Century Arms advertisement I copied about twenty years ago. I'll have to look the WR over to see if Orr is mentioned at all.

The Jeffery .450 NE is most certainly a cousin of your .450/400 NE. I'll have a look over it as well. with its Gaur simple engraving, I'd think the Indian Orr connection quite likely. There have a few Jeffery rifles of this "model" seen over time. Perhaps an off the shelf design for Jeffery and/or Orr?

By the way, the alias "Marrakai", there is a Marrakai plains in the Top End. Is there not similar in India?

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