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Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News
      #385832 - 17/07/24 08:22 PM


Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News. After another bear attack tragedy.

From Radu, a Romanian/American friend of mine. Quotation from Facebook:

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BROWN BEAR HUNTING IN ROMANIA REINSTATED ! We won but only after years of enormous tragedies. In the light of recent events where a brown bear dragged a 19 years old girl off a hiking trails into a ravine, eating her alive, while the enraged hunter who shot the bear consuming the woman was prosecuted by law, sparking and outcry with people and media revolting vocally. In a emergency swift rwapomse under pressure, the Romanian government had no choice but finally to give up the ban. Almost 500 permits have been issued and the total ban on brown bear hunting instated in 2016 has at last been overturned. The government has conservatively estimated the brown bear population at around 8000 subject to much debate, with animal rights activists estimates at only 4000, while the hunters and forestry rangers often estimate the numbers to be at over 10 000. The Parliament voted the reintroduction of bear hunting with an overwhelming majority of 214 votes pro, 7 against and 23 abstaining.

Radu






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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385833 - 17/07/24 08:25 PM

Excellent result after a tragedy, when I was in Romania a gamekeeper/forester was hoping the bear hunts would resume that year, 2018? It didn't happen. The power of the anti hunting EU greenies, and antis,

Great news a sensible bear hunting season is again in place,

These bears need to have some fear of man.

I visited a "bear park" where bears had been relocated. Near Brasov I think it was. Many of the bears had been relocated from the mountain above Brasov. From where they used to enter the city below and harass residents.

Some ninety bears in the "bear" park. On the way to the viewing box where pork skins was fed to the bears, several kms walk through the forest,, the idiot guide and youthful tourists walked way ahead. My wife couldn't keep up, we ended up hundreds of metres behind. I don't know if either the guide or the forester were armed at all.

It's not as if the brown bears might come from only one direction, to the regular feeding place and time ...

Incompetence.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385841 - 18/07/24 08:44 AM

That is good news and it took a tragedy and the people to put in place something that should never have been taken away.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: Rule303]
      #385843 - 18/07/24 08:58 AM

Maybe, just maybe, common sense is starting to return to the world.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #385848 - 18/07/24 08:01 PM

Radu has some horrific images of the body of the girl involved in the bear attack.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385849 - 18/07/24 08:10 PM

On the hunting side, 500 bear hunting permits will allow many hunters to experience a European Brown bear hunt.

Numbers in the wild are estinated by the anti hunters at 2,000. Pro hunters, 4,000 to 8,000. Some believing even 10,000.

There have been lots of humans killed by bears in Romania in the last two years. Unlike the USA and Canada, hikers in the forests and mountains can not go armed. I know I had some nerves when hiking on lonely quiet forest tracks on the mountain above Brasov. Even though some sixty to ninety years had been captured from there and moved well away to another forest, I mentioned it above. It was claimed all the bears had been relocated. Were any bears missed? Low probability of an attack. The mountain forest above Brasov finishes right against the walls of the old city. Those bears used to regularly enter the old city and wander around. I'm sure many attacks happened. Leading to their relocation.

TripAdvisor image show the bottom of the mountain forest and wall of the old city:






Open this large image to show the beautiful old city and the mountain behind.
https://www.romaniatourism.com/images/brasov/brasov-romania.jpg





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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385850 - 18/07/24 08:26 PM

"The Parliament voted the reintroduction of bear hunting with an overwhelming majority of 214 votes pro, 7 against and 23 abstaining."

Take that you tree huggers!


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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: LRF]
      #385856 - 19/07/24 05:24 AM

Warning gruesome bear attack photos.


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Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News. After another bear attack tragedy.

From Radu, a Romanian/American friend of mine. Quotation from Facebook:

Quote:


BROWN BEAR HUNTING IN ROMANIA REINSTATED ! We won but only after years of enormous tragedies. In the light of recent events where a brown bear dragged a 19 years old girl off a hiking trails into a ravine, eating her alive, while the enraged hunter who shot the bear consuming the woman was prosecuted by law, sparking and outcry with people and media revolting vocally. In a emergency swift rwapomse under pressure, the Romanian government had no choice but finally to give up the ban. Almost 500 permits have been issued and the total ban on brown bear hunting instated in 2016 has at last been overturned. The government has conservatively estimated the brown bear population at around 8000 subject to much debate, with animal rights activists estimates at only 4000, while the hunters and forestry rangers often estimate the numbers to be at over 10 000. The Parliament voted the reintroduction of bear hunting with an overwhelming majority of 214 votes pro, 7 against and 23 abstaining.

Radu





















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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385858 - 19/07/24 05:33 AM

Poor little bugger!
It would have been a terrible way to go!
Doesn't look like a really big bear either.


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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: 93x64mm]
      #385862 - 19/07/24 09:13 AM

Bloody awful.
Here, it's usually black bears that "go" predatory.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: DarylS]
      #385883 - 20/07/24 09:18 PM

Sad this girl lost her life, Terrible to go that way.

Hopefully the Romanian brown bears learn a little fear from the reopened hunting seasons and quotas.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385943 - 22/07/24 11:01 PM

One post from FB ... Hopefully sarcasm and hopefully a proper season is created ...


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In the meantime:

Romanian prime minister: ...uh well of course we will not be shooting all bears freely....they just don't have uhm enough food and are...coming down to eat...we will...uhm...solve this in an extraordinary Parliament meeting (the hunting law has been sitting in their drawer for almost a year now).
Romanian president: well there are too many bears but of course we won't be shooting them for fun....
Romanian National Hunters' Association (who did close to nothing after the ban was imposed): we told you so...
Romanian Environment Minister: we will shoot all bears who get close to a human settlement
Romanian Mountain Gendarmerie: uh, we have bears?! Did you call 911?
Romanian folk on Facebook: kill them all!
Romanian folk on Facebook: all humans deserve to die by bear death! We have stolen their woods!
Best Romanian folk on Facebook: she should have had a taser! she shouldn't have been there! she was pregnant and her boyfriend pushed her off the cliffs, the bear is a collateral victim. She had been feeding the bear and taking selfies!
Head of a bear sanctuary: I know bear behavior very well! They are cuddly misunderstood lovely creatures who eat grass!
Romanian Green NGOs (who collect millions for nothing in the name of an overgrown species): a tragedy has claimed the lives of a young she-bear and a young she-human.
Romanian Academy of Science (who has a veto right on bear hunting): well uhm the population evaluation doesn't look very exact, we'll say no.
Oh well.




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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: NitroX]
      #385944 - 22/07/24 11:54 PM

Sarcasm for sure.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: DarylS]
      #385949 - 23/07/24 01:15 AM

Grizzly are expanding into our increasingly heavily populated area. One was just shot 5 miles from town here. We have been told ~50 are to be released by the Federal government just east of us.

Madness.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: 9.3x57]
      #385953 - 23/07/24 04:04 AM

We have a moratorium on grizzly tags now.
They are becoming quite numerous.
Someone photographed 2 grizzlies on the road just a few miles West of my camp on Francois Lake, I was told. The pi ture showed to me had the 2 grizzlies in the company of a very large black bear. That uncommon. I thought it might be a chocolate/black grissly, but no, it was definitely a black bear with 2 griz.

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Re: Brown bear reinstated in Romania, Great News [Re: DarylS]
      #385960 - 23/07/24 06:28 AM

Daryl it might be time, that when you are up the lake to have a good firearm handy.

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