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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: DarylS]
      #382318 - 04/02/24 05:33 PM

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Wide loops and hooks to take off when needed.




Is there a website where they can be purchased? Links, images?

I bought sling hooks from Jeff's Outfitters, but I think they are no longer in business?

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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: NitroX]
      #382327 - 05/02/24 12:44 AM

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Wide loops and hooks to take off when needed.




Is there a website where they can be purchased? Links, images?

I bought sling hooks from Jeff's Outfitters, but I think they are no longer in business?






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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: NitroX]
      #382329 - 05/02/24 03:56 AM

I do not know where they might be available, John. Someone here found and bought some, a few(maybe 5 or 6?) years back. I think it was in a thread specifically about those loops.

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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: DarylS]
      #382336 - 05/02/24 09:18 AM

Slings for sxs or o/u shotguns are often of the style with a noose that fits over the barrels, or in the case of many shotguns or rifle/shotgun combination guns, an attachment for a swivel is brazed to the sxs centre rib or o/u bottom barrel.

I don't know that I would trust a sling attached to a stud on the forend. A good jolt could overcome the forend latch allowing the sling to pull the forend free and the gun hitting the deck. Some shotguns just have the forend clipped on which required a pull on the nose of the forend to free it when dismantling the gun.

Problem with the noose type sling is that the bluing will be worn off over time where the sling wraps around the barrel.

I've often thought of putting a sling on my Miroku O/U gun but resisted the urge due to reason given above. I have a sling on my semi but is a plain light 1" sling with a sliding buckle. Slide to fully tighten the sling when shooting with the semi then loosen off for carrying. Hate slings flip flopping under the gun when shooting. Use the same sling on my rifles too for the same reason.


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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: eagle27]
      #382340 - 05/02/24 02:33 PM

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Slings for sxs or o/u shotguns are often of the style with a noose that fits over the barrels, ...




I don't like these "noose" slings. A sling over the barrels is also in the way.

Would work if carrying the gun a long way. Then completely removing the sling for shooting. But not for carrying slung then unshouldering for a shot

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or in the case of many shotguns or rifle/shotgun combination guns, an attachment for a swivel is brazed to the sxs centre rib or o/u bottom barrel.




Yes. It's normally a fixed swivel. The reason I am asking about "studs" which look right.

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I don't know that I would trust a sling attached to a stud on the forend.




A stud on the forend is obviously stupid as it will be under the hand. And as you say, pull the forend off.

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I've often thought of putting a sling on my Miroku O/U gun




Easy. Barrel band with stud on the bottom barrel.

I'll probably get my Tikka/Valmet so modified one day.it has a stud in the butt stock I think. Have to look.

On a side by side, one of those vintage style large hole ball studs would look fine on a SS. Got to find who sells them.

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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: NitroX]
      #382349 - 05/02/24 06:35 PM



This was a one off sale of Henry or Winchester rifle hook and large hole studs. Both for wooden stocks (?). One could be modified for the bottom of a SS rib.

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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: NitroX]
      #384143 - 14/04/24 01:37 AM

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I'm going to give my Simson Suhl 12-bore side by side, previously mentioned, a go with Brenneckes, slugs and buck shot sizes. Have to see what I can buy. See how it performs at different ranges.

I'll take some photos of it.

It only has a bead for sights.

I'll see how BBs perform in it first. It's fox drive season for the local fox drive group. Instead of my Greener Empire 12b SS, I'll give the Simson a try.

I don't really use it now. It's my first shotgun by one or two weeks! Before the Azhur. So maybe a purpose for it. Add some sling swivels. Easy to carry long distances but only when not driving. Some guys and girls walk in a line in bush and up and down hills. In total maybe 10 to 20 km per day. Three to five days on weekends. Others stand in a blocking line. Several drives in a day. I'll probably block mainly this year. Or some easier drives walking. I've got some injury issues at the moment. The gun is plain so rougher shooting isn't a worry for it.

The tight chokes might work well for longer shots on foxes. Some shots on cardboard will tell. Also see how well I swing it on some clays with small shot. Rabbits are always good practice.

As said later add sling swivels, maybe look at some sort of rifle sights on it. Maybe a flip up rear v sight? Even bases for scope mounts? Depends on its performance.

I'd be interested in comments on how shot shotgunning performs with a blade front side versus a bead. I can probably tell myself! Using my Tikka/Valmet combination barrels which have blade front sights.




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My fox cull shooting apparatus. A Simson Suhl side by side 12-bore, with tight chokes. A plain working gun. Using 36 GM loads of BBs.









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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: NitroX]
      #384149 - 14/04/24 03:19 AM

That should work.

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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: DarylS]
      #384157 - 14/04/24 07:16 AM

Not wrong there Daryl!!

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Re: German Side by Sides and Slugs [Re: 93x64mm]
      #384161 - 14/04/24 08:22 AM

Just over 1.25 ounces of BB's. Seems to me, iirc, there are 50 BB's in an ounce, so 63 BB's in your load or thereabouts.

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