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yumastepside
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257 Roberts rimmed Smellie
      #380437 - 29/10/23 12:17 PM

Making a Mannlicher style stock for my Lithgow. This is for a pantograh pattern hence the join.
I made the snobble from a Mauser end cap/bayonet lug.



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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: yumastepside]
      #380440 - 29/10/23 03:40 PM

Nice.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: NitroX]
      #380443 - 29/10/23 05:22 PM

yes, not ready now but very promising

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: yumastepside]
      #380445 - 29/10/23 07:03 PM

Quote:

Making a Mannlicher style stock for my Lithgow. This is for a pantograh pattern hence the join.



Yes, three diffeent bits of wood.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: NitroX]
      #380448 - 29/10/23 09:07 PM

Not doing the .303-25 instead Roger?

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yumastepside
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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: 93x64mm]
      #380451 - 29/10/23 10:46 PM

The barrel was originally a Sportco 303-25, but I had a couple hundred 7x57 rimmed cases left when I sold my BRNO 7x57r-12ga combination...cases are almost identical and I also have a Lithgow in 7x57r but I'm doing the stock in a Daniel Fraser style.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: yumastepside]
      #380455 - 30/10/23 03:53 AM

.013" difference in head diameter is all, along with the attendant case capacity difference.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: DarylS]
      #380456 - 30/10/23 04:02 AM

thought before the 257 roberts rimmed was some kind of a 303 wildcat

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: lancaster]
      #380458 - 30/10/23 04:16 AM

1st I've heard of it. I was just comparing the 7x57R to .303 case.
The .257 Roberts is based on the (7 or 8) 57mm case, as-is the 6mm Remington.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: DarylS]
      #380459 - 30/10/23 07:13 AM

The 7x57R is a perfect conversion for the LE. When I did mine back on the '80's, it was fitted with a take-off barrel from my '08 Brazilian Mauser....no other changes, mag, feeding...all fine.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: yumastepside]
      #380462 - 30/10/23 10:05 AM

Quote:

The 7x57R is a perfect conversion for the LE. When I did mine back on the '80's, it was fitted with a take-off barrel from my '08 Brazilian Mauser....no other changes, mag, feeding...all fine.

Roger


And then if you did you could mark the caliber on the barrel as I did on my conversion of a Dutch 1895 Mannlicher to 275 Rigby Rimmed


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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: LRF]
      #380464 - 30/10/23 10:56 AM

That’s going to be a super cool little rifle !!!!!! I have a friend who’s 94 and he loves his “257 Bob” !!!!! He told me he shot his 100th deer last year (with a .257) and he is planning on making it 101 this season with his 257.
Can’t wait to see yours finished !!!!!!!!

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #380625 - 04/11/23 05:44 PM

If you're interested Daryl, this is the article that first got me interested in using the x57R case ....





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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: yumastepside]
      #380630 - 05/11/23 03:06 AM

Thanks Roger. Good article. I wasn't sure about the pressure in the old SMLE, but knew about anything would be fine in a good #4.
In the SMLE with a working pressure of 45,000CUP, that seems a as good place to call home, as any. I see absolutely no reason to make 42,000 the limit.
I think when writers do things like that, they are virtue signalling only.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: DarylS]
      #381155 - 12/12/23 04:23 PM

Will make a nice rifle - similar to the BSA No2 carbine "for officers' use".

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: Rowdy]
      #381167 - 13/12/23 04:25 AM

One VERY cool thing about those Enfields, is the extractor will handle from .22 Hornet all the way up to .45/70 without alteration.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: DarylS]
      #381172 - 13/12/23 05:34 AM

Will be interested to watch this project.

Been interested in the 7x57R/.303 as I have loads of x57R cases.

FWIW you already have cases & likely know this already, but if you need more and cannot find 7x57R, the .444 Marlin may suffice. It is a bit short but should "grow" in necking a bit and otherwise the dimensions should work.

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Re: 257 Roberts rimmed Smellie [Re: 9.3x57]
      #381199 - 13/12/23 07:49 PM

The other good thing about .444 Marlin brass is the heavily constructed web at the case-head.
Much thicker brass web than any other cartridge case, period!
Provides a good margin of safety in a rear-locking action, when pushing pressures a bit.

I have been running a poor-man's .375 JDJ in a 1941 Lithgow No.1 Mk.III for about three decades now and it loves the 250gr Sierra SBT.
Makes Group 1 Nitro for Big Game Rifle competition all day long, and has killed a bunch of buffalo.

IMHO the .444 is a great choice for donor brass in the Smellie.

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