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Mauser rifles at auctions
      #222536 - 30/12/12 07:04 AM

instead of open a new thread every time I think we could use this in the future to make the members aware of original mausers in aution wherever it is













Zivilmauser 98er , Kaliber 9,3x62
length 111cm, barrel 60cm
original a 9,3x57, rechambered to 9,3x62 in the 1980s and new proof
pistol grip cap is missing, 98% blueing
the stock behind the cheek piece have a hole 50x30x2mm probably for some kind of badge and a break on the barrel
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4177805

serial number looks like 83848

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #222549 - 30/12/12 10:50 AM

original a 9,3x57, rechambered to 9,3x62 in the 1980s and new proof

damn shame, the 9.3x57 is a rare chambering.
What happened to the charger guide?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Kebco]
      #222592 - 31/12/12 02:20 AM

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...What happened to the charger guide?



Looks like it once had a scope mount on the action and has had the holes filled in. That is the only reason for a rear bridge to be modified that I can think of.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #222594 - 31/12/12 04:26 AM

Not in auction but interesting and IMO cheap anyway (3900 SEK = 600 USD):

http://www.kjellsvapen.se/index.php?option=com_portfolio&id=1087&view=item



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #222631 - 31/12/12 01:58 PM

I think lancaster has thought up a truly sick thread. One to make us non-European based members truly green and sick with the show-casted Mausers at auction.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #222640 - 31/12/12 03:13 PM

Quote:

Not in auction but interesting and IMO cheap anyway (3900 SEK = 600 USD):

http://www.kjellsvapen.se/index.php?option=com_portfolio&id=1087&view=item





its necessary to see better pics dont you think so? could be a good one

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #222647 - 31/12/12 05:33 PM

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its necessary to see better pics dont you think so?

I´ll be sure they send some if you ask. The sights looks correct and barrel seems to be octagonal ro round. Stock could have some issues...

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #222679 - 01/01/13 11:19 AM

Looks like the stock is Characteristic Mauser checkering from a distance. I don't see anything incorrect from this one photo.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: deepwoods]
      #222857 - 04/01/13 06:33 AM

Here is one (IMO quite funny) 10,75x68 Ceco Mauser in Sweden.

http://www.blocket.se/vasternorrland/Diverse_ovanligare_jaktgevar_44647633.htm?ca=3&w=3

"Mauser 98, kaliber 10,75x68
Oborrad låda.Lådans överdel har en form av punshing för att minska reflexer.
Om man kikar vad stämplarna säger så är det bland annat följande:
10,3mm - nominell kaliber över bommarna
9.27 - troligen september 1927
St.m.G - stålmantlad kula (provtryckt med)
23gr - kulvikt (provtryckt med)
Tror det är en ombyggd armebössa från Geco, är inte säker.
Pipan verkar vara en omdragen originalpipa.
Siktet är från Gew.98
Kolven har en lagning.
Pris: 1500 SEK"


Mauser 98, Caliber 10.75x68
Undrilled frame. Frame has form of punshing to reduce glare.
If peeks what stamps says it is including the following:
10.3 mm - bullet diameter
9.27 - probably in September 1927
St.m.G - steeljacket bullet (pressure tested with)
23gr - bullet weight (pressure tested with)
Think it is a converted army rifle from Geco, I´m not sure.
The barrel seems to be a redrilled original.
The sights are from Gew.98
The stock has one repairing.
Price: 1500 SEK (= ~230 US$)





















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #222865 - 04/01/13 10:36 AM

Now THAT last one's a decent price. Here, 9x57 and 9.3x62 Mauser M98 commercial rifles run $275.00 to $400.00 depending on condition.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #222878 - 04/01/13 05:40 PM

one of the most strange looking mauser rifles I have ever seen with the lange Visier. looks more like a bubba job to me. I wonder about the barrel thickness on the muzzle when this was an original 8 mm barrel rebored to 10,75mm.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #222885 - 04/01/13 07:34 PM

It could be much better if little pimped...:D





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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #222901 - 05/01/13 01:03 AM

he, what happen? do you made the second pic with photoshop?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #222912 - 05/01/13 05:48 AM

Yes I did.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #222951 - 05/01/13 03:55 PM

I just added two fotos of barrels muzzle to the original post.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #223015 - 06/01/13 09:34 PM

a rare post war 1956 made .425NE by westley richards
http://www.champlinarms.com/Default.aspx...&GunID=2262

a very basic PH rifle compared with the best made 425 mauser rifles by WR. overpriced with 8900 $... I would say not more than 4900$ but anyone as he like. wonder if this have the common double row magazin without the original clips.

Westley Richards & Co. London: A Westley Richards PH Model 425 Westley Richards Magnum Bolt Rifle Made About 1956 on a FN Commercial Mauser Action, The action never drilled or tapped, Mauser trigger, Extended deep magazine box with an outside button release for the floorplate, A 26" barrel with an island sight with 1 fixed standing blade, Island front sight with a sight protector, Proved at 18.5 tons, Forend tiedown with a barrel lug, Open sight sporter stock, Wrap around point pattern checkering, No cheekpiece, 13 7/8" LOP over a 7/8" Silvers pad, 9 Lbs. 6 oz., A steel inset and inletted crossbolt at the front recoil lug that doesn't show on the outside, This piece with original blue that still remains at 82-84%, The stock has been oiled but I don't believe sanded & it remains 92%, The checkering at 95%, The bore is very good plus with sharp rifling the entire way. This cartridge is a serious big game cartridge using a 410 grain bullet. This piece comes with loading dies, cases and plenty of bullets.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #223068 - 07/01/13 02:00 PM

Regarding the first posting of the model b in 9.3X62 with full octagon barrel-notice that there is not a serial number on the barrel-I have one similar in 9X57 with no serial number on the barrel but is inscribed with the customary "Waffenfabrik Mauser" on the barrel rib. Caliber stamping on top of the barrel in front of the ring. Anyone else have one similar without the serial number on the barrel? Speed's book has it seems only a few pictures of full octagon barrels and they do seem to have the serial number on the barrel.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: deepwoods]
      #223852 - 18/01/13 04:11 PM

Very nice .400/350 Rigby for a person who wants classic rifle (restored) for hunting purposes:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4221957





































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #224255 - 25/01/13 02:39 AM

Mauser 71 hunting rifle in 11,15x60R
some small parts missing but a nice project http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4231626#img











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #224311 - 26/01/13 06:45 AM

A project Hyem. Could use a DE-American-izing

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327140796

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #224312 - 26/01/13 06:46 AM

A Kettner in .30'06 with full length rib.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=326686992

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #224404 - 28/01/13 09:52 AM

Here's a 10.75x68 Original Oberndorf Mauser model A on a local auction site

http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hunting-shooting/rifles/auction-556391674.htm

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: shamus]
      #224407 - 28/01/13 10:23 AM

Nice find Shamus. Priced very well ( for my checkbook ) for a model A.
Refinished or not (I prefer the look of casper50's 404) I like it.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #224409 - 28/01/13 01:12 PM

yes, looks very good
















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #224438 - 29/01/13 12:26 PM

"guild" ..... Looks like some of the post Vietnam era GI bring backs, we would see from Germany.

A late friend had a minds-eye similar .270 from a local maker when he was at Nachrichten Kaserne Hospital




http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327107972

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #224653 - 03/02/13 02:02 AM

IMO very nice Army & Navy .375 H&H

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4248407











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #224696 - 03/02/13 10:03 PM

looks good to me

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #224977 - 08/02/13 03:28 PM

Stutzen by Heinrich Barella/Berlin in 9,3x62, made around 1925



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #224995 - 09/02/13 05:50 AM

A new one but IMO quite nice

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4247934



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #225061 - 10/02/13 08:41 AM

6.5x55 pre-War Husqvarna

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=328905003

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #225064 - 10/02/13 10:42 AM

Those m96 Swede Mausers are cheap as dirt here in Finland and Sweden but I do not care any of them if I could buy any m98 Husqvarna instead.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #225081 - 10/02/13 09:06 PM

allways safe the pics

no doubt a sporter, pre or early post war very unusual with the teutonic Bäckchen on the stock





































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #225221 - 13/02/13 04:06 PM

remarkable
you would not believe they had time to made such a stutzen then



Stutzen in 7x64 with a Zeiss Ziel 6 on claw mount by Waffenwerke Brünn, czech proofed in 1943
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4255973

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #225524 - 19/02/13 02:04 AM

Wilhelm Brenneke/Berlin 9,3x64
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4273168
























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #225530 - 19/02/13 03:59 AM

Very nice, only triggerguard-magazine -housing looks kind of cheap.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #225647 - 21/02/13 02:30 AM

A friend of mine has an Oberndorf square bridge sporter on Gunbroker as auction #329590778. Sorry, I didn't have any luck posting the link for it. -------------- GeezerD

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #225652 - 21/02/13 02:56 AM

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remarkable
you would not believe they had time to made such a stutzen then




This is double interesting since it appears to have all the features of a BRNO 21F carbine, except that the barrel is 60 cm (24") long, which I would think would be the minimum for an ear drum burster like the 7X64.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: GeezerD]
      #225654 - 21/02/13 03:15 AM

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A friend of mine has an Oberndorf square bridge sporter on Gunbroker as auction #329590778. Sorry, I didn't have any luck posting the link for it. -------------- GeezerD



http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=329590778

I think your friend's starting price is a little optimistic, considered that the rifle has been rebarrelled to a screamingly non-German caliber.

Also, referring to the rifle as otherwise original is a little much, considering the dovetail cut in the receiver ring to accomodate the claw mount base.

The claw mount itself is interesting, but I think that finding rings to match the bases would be quite difficult, aside from the misssing lever on the rear (square bridge) base.

That said, it would certainly be an interesting rifle to play with.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #225656 - 21/02/13 03:22 AM

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Wilhelm Brenneke/Berlin 9,3x64



I have cast longing eyes at this rifle, too. Except for the odd treatment of the stock on the left side, just above the trigger and below the tang, it has wonderful classic lines, and the FN action is handled with respect, with no Germanic modifications, other than a little engraving.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #225795 - 23/02/13 05:05 AM

I like this mauser, only those APEL under parts and Buehler -style safety are small mistakes in style:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4282093













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #225812 - 23/02/13 09:32 AM

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I like this mauser, only those APEL under parts and Buehler -style safety are small mistakes in style



Don't forget the rather crudely altered bolt handle, which, unlike the scope bases and safety would be very difficult to restore to original condition. Also the non-original caliber stamping on the receiver ring would seem to indicate that the barrel is not original either. It sure is a pretty thing, however.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #225831 - 23/02/13 01:46 PM

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I like this mauser,



I do as well. For 527.16us plus import.......whats not to like.:):):)

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #225832 - 23/02/13 01:49 PM

Interesting

SN#2 ??? I am not a collector so to speak, not a "military" sort, not a "sniper" sort as well, but this is pretty cool

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=330213416





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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #225835 - 23/02/13 02:57 PM

Would have to disagree Caprivi. I would say its very cool. Also from a non military, non sniper type.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Claydog]
      #225836 - 23/02/13 03:20 PM

"Pretty"....."Very"......ummmm, Okay you win. It is VERY cool...:):):)

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #225838 - 23/02/13 06:14 PM

Quite nice. This rifles basic design is very near of that "African" Sporter which I have.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=210087&an=0&page=1#Post210087

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #226642 - 09/03/13 01:34 AM

"pre war gustav genschow 10,75x68" http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4307625&PHPSESSID=1c48372950c373727e35fa1e0204049c

what you see here is an ex gustav genschow 10,75x57 with another old stock and rechambered for the 10,75x68, probably completly reworked with a new blueing, imho.
the valuable Zeiss Ziel 6 on claw mount could be old but its also possible it was made new when this rifle was seeing the work bench again lately.
serial number 902 make it the first model whats clearly visible on the front sight. Rolf here have bought the number 905 last year.
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=206900&an=0&page=0#Post206900

lots of high quality pics but the seller dont show the old caliber specification on the barrel. all of you thinking the neuseeland original mauser is to expensive look at the price asking for this rifle.










































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #226743 - 10/03/13 07:42 PM

original mauser for sale in france http://www.naturabuy.fr/MAUSER-10-75X68-item-1220783.html
10,75x68, serial number 116311, close to this 116580 http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=220097&an=0&page=0#Post220097
looks like additional belgian proof
asking price 2500 euro






















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #226744 - 10/03/13 07:46 PM

original mauser in 10,75x68 for sale in germany, serial number 82389
buy it now price is 2000 euro
scope mount is
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4300787#img






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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #226797 - 11/03/13 12:11 PM

I like that one and with a Schmidt & Bender on it with eaw mounts on what looks like an original model b otherwise. Is the bolt handle look modified or is it an illusion? Mounts look to be fairly high so it may not have had to be modified. Looks like a nice piece of wood as well. Too bad the ammo's so darn hard to find and pricey.

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      #227040 - 15/03/13 10:36 PM

nice and it seems original pre war stutzen in 9,x57 mauser by Emil v. Nordheim in Zella-Mehlis
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4302407

barrel lenght 480mm, oal 1010mm, OIGEE/Berlin Luxor 3x on claw mount








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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #227197 - 18/03/13 01:08 PM

Since the ocular housing of the Oigee scope appears to be integral with the scope tube, it is a mystery to me how the scope rings were installed on the tube, unless, of course, the scope was disassembled and the elevation adjustment drum removed to allow the rear ring to be installed.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #227224 - 19/03/13 02:39 PM

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4273168

This one stayed tantalizingly low, around 700,00 Euros, right up to the last minute, then suddenly shot up to over twice the price. Still a good buy!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #227236 - 19/03/13 09:11 PM

Concerning pre WWII scopes the following link may be helpful.
http://www.jagdwaffensammler.de/zielfernrohre.html

Disassembling the scope was common in those days , because the steel tube scopes were soldered to the rings.

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      #227248 - 20/03/13 05:00 AM

Quote:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4273168

This one stayed tantalizingly low, around 700,00 Euros, right up to the last minute, then suddenly shot up to over twice the price. Still a good buy!



yes I was very surprised seeing how it ends.
its rare that such rifles here sell for more than 1000 euro.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #227455 - 24/03/13 11:30 AM

"guild" 9x57 Cheap right now

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/11930972/r...dst-nice-one-nr

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      #227464 - 24/03/13 04:15 PM

spoon handle looks a little bit long but otherwise very slim and very elegant and classic lines on this rifle. I would not hesitate to customize the spoon handle if the rifle was mine. the missing scope with claw mount would be a problem for you americans but not here.



























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #227626 - 27/03/13 03:00 PM

two different 7x57 Mauser's in the upcoming bonham's auction


very classic R. Mahrholdt & Sohn/Peterlongo Innsbruck stutzen with double set trigger's and claw mount base's

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20804/lot/58/




and a indeed very classic John Rigby & Co., 28 Sackville St., London, W1 in Rigby .275 H.V.


sorry to say scope and scope mount is a personal injury
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20804/lot/57/

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #227637 - 27/03/13 10:51 PM

Can any one enlighten me as to the nature of the scope mount used on the Rigby .275? The rear base appears to be attached to the receiver bridge by some kind of dovetail arrangement, while the front base appears to be mounted on the left side of the receiver. I have a 1903 M/S carbine with plugged holes drilled approximately where this front base would be, and I have never been able to visualize what sort of scope mount would require such holes. (The photograph at the auction site allows significant magnification with no deterioration in quality, so the details of the mount are quite evident.)

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #227646 - 28/03/13 02:57 AM

Quote:

imho, you need a M 88 rifle for the 9mm/M 88 alias 9x57



I tend to agree, a 88 just seems proper in a 9mm


Quote:

sorry to say scope and scope mount is a personal injury
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20804/lot/57/




I would agree again. While a 275 surely can benefit from a optically aiming device, this rather ponderous one is not it. A very simple remediation can be done thou. There price esimate is intriguing, but probably a bit "soft"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #227650 - 28/03/13 04:13 AM

I have noticed that estimates on Oberndorf sporters at auction, at least here in the US, have been going up and up.
I guess appreciation of the original Oberndorfs is finally catching up with their quality.
Maybe the high prices on pre-64 Model 70's is pushing Mausers up too.
An example:
http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/58/lid/1548

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      #227656 - 28/03/13 05:50 AM

"10mm" a 10.75 perhaps ???

With so many "FAKE" pre-64 model 70's anymore, I don't bother with them as to collector, cheap beaters for as is or custom, still possible.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #227658 - 28/03/13 06:21 AM

Quote:

Can any one enlighten me as to the nature of the scope mount used on the Rigby .275?


This type of mount is now usually called the "Holland & Holland mount". It is essentially a single-foot claw mount attached to the left side of the receiver. It works the other way around than the usual German claw mount: You first slide the rear foot into it's recess, where it hooks around a pin. then the front foot is swung down and secured by turning a small lever. The rod under the scope is there to keep the rings at the correct distance, even if the scope slips in the rings. H&H introduced this type of mount in the 1920s afaik.
Virtually the same type of scope mount was used several years earlier by by the Austrians on some of their WW1 Mannlicher M95 sniper rifles. The only obvious difference: the Austrians did not use such a "distance rod". As their rings were soldered to the scope tubes, they could not slip and such a rod was unnecessary.
Same question as with the Greifelt and Griffin & Howe single-lever sidemounts: who invented what and who copied a proven design?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #227660 - 28/03/13 06:25 AM

very nice rifle and I wonder about the caliber,
10,75x68 would be possible but when asking 6500-8500 $$$ this must be clear







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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #227668 - 28/03/13 08:02 AM

I can't think that it could be anything but a 10.75X68.
Very nice rifle but not going to get into that estimate range I bet.
Rock Island never seems to get the real $$$ for Mausers as it seems like the auction attendees and most of their off site clientele is into the American stuff - Winchesters and Colts etc. They seem to sell the hell out of that stuff!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #227696 - 28/03/13 07:53 PM

nice wood and the full lenght octagonal barrel is something you dont see every day

just have the day for free and we will go a small step aside

there are some of the older Sako L46 for sale in finland and they imho the nicest mini mauser's ever made
oh, such a temptation





7x33 Sako http://www.ace-gun.com/product_details.php?p=2132







25-20 http://www.ace-gun.com/product_details.php?p=1789












7x33 Sako http://www.ace-gun.com/product_details.php?p=1897

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #227794 - 01/04/13 06:59 AM

A nice looking Schilling '88. Sorry lancaster it is a 8mm not a 9.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=334542187



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      #227795 - 01/04/13 07:03 AM

Quote:

just have the day for free and we will go a small step aside

there are some of the older Sako L46 for sale in finland and they imho the nicest mini mauser's ever made
oh, such a temptation





Agreed they are. In my youth a friend of Dad's had a little Sako with the forward band like this in a .22 of some sort. .218 Bee I think but ???

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      #227915 - 03/04/13 05:23 AM

Very cool CZ mannlicher in 8x57JS. Have talked with seller, too rich for me.


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=335057960






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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #228081 - 05/04/13 05:33 AM

Very fascinating m98 Mauser for sale in Sweden. Seems to be a bit later "cousin" to my african Mauser:

http://www.walterborg.se/auktion/



KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, cylinderrepeter, fabrikat: Mauser, modell Dalarna, kal. 8x60 Normal, tillvnr. 114966, piplängd 70cm, oktagonpipa, ramsikte från 50-1000 meter, plundringsbart magasin, nätskuren 3/4 kolv med pistolgrepp och kindstöd, hornbakkappa, rembyglar, 14 askar DWM och 1 ask Norma med 8x60 patroner och tidsenligt gevärsfodral och rem medföljer. Mycket gott skick.
Utropspris: 10000 - 12000 SEK

"German bolt action rifle, maker: Mauser, model Dalarna, cal. 8x60 Normal nr. 114966, barrel length 70cm, octagon barrel, rear sight from 50-1000 meters, Mauser 1904 type hinged floorplate magazine, 3/4 lenght stock with checkerings, pistol grip and cheek piece, horn butt plate, 14 boxes DWM and 1 box of Norma 8x60 cartridges and timely rifle case and strap included. Very good condition.

Estimate: 10000 - 12000 SEK" (= ca. 1500-1850 US $ + fees)

I´m quite sure that my own rifle has been bought as new to Sweden too. The serial number is from the last year before I WW. Never ever before heard anything about "Mauser mod. Dalarna"...?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #228093 - 05/04/13 07:41 AM

I think John was right...this is a sick thread :P I've only looked at it about a hundred times!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #228098 - 05/04/13 09:33 AM

Quote:

The serial number is from the last year before I WW.



Since the 8X60 cartridge was developed after World War I as a result of the banning of the 8X57 cartridge for civilian use by the Treaty of Versailles, it is most unlikely that this is a pre- World War I rifle. In fact, if I am not mistaken, the use of the term "NORMAL" did not begin until the 1930's.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #228106 - 05/04/13 11:41 AM

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In fact, if I am not mistaken, the use of the term "NORMAL" did not begin until the 1930's.


Yes, correct but the serial number which I comment on belongs to my own 6,5x55 Mauser which you`ll find here: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=210087&an=0&page=1#Post210087

The rifle for sale has been made twenty years later, between 1934-35.

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      #228847 - 16/04/13 12:17 PM

Kinda cool. Could be nice donor under all of that. Small ring 98, claw mounts, ribbed barrel

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/11937310/g...lt-action-rifle




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      #228854 - 16/04/13 03:38 PM

Nice object for restoration.

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      #228955 - 18/04/13 03:46 AM

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4332797

original Wilhelm Brenneke/Leipzig in 7x64 made bei Ernst Schmidt&Habermann in Suhl





















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      #228981 - 18/04/13 12:03 PM

L46 Riihmaki in 7x33, pretty rare here in the Colonies.



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #229061 - 20/04/13 10:13 AM

Pretty nice ca.1905 Type B here on GunBroker
Somebody buy it before I loose my powers of resistance!!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=337577587

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      #229064 - 20/04/13 10:50 AM

Is that a Square bridge under there ????

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=337835577

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #229065 - 20/04/13 10:59 AM

Quote:

Is that a Square bridge under there ????



Looks like it.
But everything surrounding it is hideous...

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      #229069 - 20/04/13 12:35 PM

Quote:

Looks like it.
But everything surrounding it is hideous...




To say the very least

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      #229071 - 20/04/13 01:11 PM

Quote:

Pretty nice ca.1905 Type B here on GunBroker
Somebody buy it before I loose my powers of resistance!!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=337577587



















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      #229075 - 20/04/13 01:23 PM

Not a double set trigger fan so much, but nice to see un-molested Oberndorf

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      #229092 - 21/04/13 02:53 AM

Gorgeous rifle, great caliber. Wish I had the bucks at the moment. My absolute favorite stock configuration.

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      #229134 - 21/04/13 01:46 PM

M 98 with five rounds magazine in 5,6x52R / .22 Savage High Power made by M.Möller in Zehla Mehlis proofed in 7/1943
sold by „Alfred Krausser, München“ a rifle for the dedicated moutain hunter showing chamois and roe deer in the engravings, bavarian cheek piece













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #229145 - 21/04/13 11:56 PM

This is very nice too:













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #229146 - 22/04/13 12:18 AM

And this is VERY RARE bird: Mauser in .280 Halger (Halbe&Gerlich, Kiel) with original m98 Magnum action.



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #229147 - 22/04/13 12:57 AM

3 very cool additions to the archives.

Would love to see details on the magazine of that 5.6x52R

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #229152 - 22/04/13 01:34 AM

yes all 3 are very good but the halger rifle is absolutly stunning

it looks like the 5,6x52R have a spacer in the magazine to make it shorter

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #229165 - 22/04/13 05:18 AM

This rifle was sold today and the price was 11000 SEK (~ 1685 US$) + fees. IMO quite cheap price for such a rare mauser.

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Very fascinating m98 Mauser for sale in Sweden. Seems to be a bit later "cousin" to my african Mauser:

http://www.walterborg.se/auktion/





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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #229205 - 22/04/13 11:20 PM

Quote:

nice wood and the full lenght octagonal barrel is something you dont see every day

just have the day for free and we will go a small step aside

there are some of the older Sako L46 for sale in finland and they imho the nicest mini mauser's ever made
oh, such a temptation






I'm a little curious about the barrel/forearm band, it looks very appealingly solid for a working rifle but in these free-floating days, I'm curious how accuracy may be affected?

Seeing the caliber being 7x33 sako I guess many use/used them for capercaillie and other birds, small targets on some distance. Anyway, lovely rifle!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: AndyB]
      #229212 - 23/04/13 02:09 AM

Igorrock,
I'm now the happy owner of that African 8x60 Mauser with 28" octagonal barrel sold yesterday in Sweden at Walter Borg auction.
Now, we must add auctioneer fee and shipping charges, but overall it seems a nice buy.
More about it when it comes in our premises in South of France.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DORLEAC]
      #229219 - 23/04/13 03:26 AM

DORLEAC, luck for you ! Next time you have to buy my African one. It comes for sale quite soon. Maybe you could have some problems with it, caliber is old swedish army 6,5x55....?

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      #229220 - 23/04/13 03:36 AM

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Seeing the caliber being 7x33 sako I guess many use/used them for capercaillie and other birds, small targets on some distance. Anyway, lovely rifle!

The optimal shooting distance for 7x33 is less than 100 meters. This caliber was designed for those who hunt capercaillie and black grouse with barking dog.

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      #229223 - 23/04/13 04:56 AM

Ah hehe okay, thanks for clearing that up!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: AndyB]
      #229263 - 24/04/13 05:26 AM

Not in auction but IMO very nice Mauser for sale in sweden in quite cheap price:

http://www.blocket.se/ostergotland/8_57_Christopfer_Funk_46651368.htm?ca=3&w=3

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KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, repeter, fabrikat: Christoph Funk, kal. 8x57J, ställbart sikte, pistolgrepp, kolvmagasin, rembyglar, GOTT SKICK.
Vapnet kräver licens



Rifle, German, bolt action with magazine, maker: Christopher Funk, cal. 8x57 I, adjustable rear sight, pistol grip, stock magazine, sling swivels. In GOOD CONDITION. Price 4000 SEK (~600 USD)

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #229316 - 27/04/13 01:56 AM

another Manufrance Rival carbine in 10,75x68
http://www.naturabuy.fr/CARABINE-MANUFRANCE-540-RIVAL-N-462-CALIBRE-10-75X68-item-1276056.html

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #229879 - 09/05/13 11:42 PM

Schmidt+Habermann Suhl rifle in 6,5x68 with a post war zeiss 6x42 on claw mount, 67cm long barrel
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4400348&PHPSESSID=1c48372950c373727e35fa1e0204049c





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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #229928 - 11/05/13 02:58 AM

oberndorf mauser in 9,3x62




http://auctionet.com/sv/70864-kulgevar-t.../images#image_1

http://auctionet.com/sv/events/7-v2013/2...-kaliber-9-3x62

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #229993 - 13/05/13 07:44 AM

I really wanted to bid on that, having a Jagdschein and being stationed in Germany. However, I was unsure if I would be able to import it to the US.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: MattieA]
      #230013 - 13/05/13 03:08 PM

This 9,3 mm Mauser will be sold in sweden.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230040 - 14/05/13 03:31 AM

I agree, 9,3x62 is a fashionable cartridge also there and this original mauser will get enough attention


anoher original Mauser in 10,75x68, serial number 83048 on egun in germany















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first day of two weeks in auction and the price starts like a rocket. same rear sight like the 9,3x62 in sweden.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #230052 - 14/05/13 05:02 AM

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same rear sight like the 9,3x62 in sweden

It would be quite interesting to test how 10,75x68 Mauser will shoot to 1000 metres....

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230071 - 14/05/13 11:03 AM

Unusual caliber designation of "10.5" on that one. The only 10.75x68's I've seen are marked "10.75x68". So what's with the caliber?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: deepwoods]
      #230075 - 14/05/13 01:23 PM

this was the common designation in the german proofhouse system then. here you see it on rifle number 80748:



this is the bore diameter that was measure in the proofhouse with a steal plug.

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      #230076 - 14/05/13 01:50 PM

This rifle is quite old, seems to be proofed in 1921.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230099 - 15/05/13 05:04 AM

I had an original Mauser Oberndorf sporter made by Otto Bock the originater of the 9.3x62 cartridge . It had a full matted rib . If I can dig up some old pictures I will post . Sold it to an Alaskan logger to hunt Kodiak bears

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      #230147 - 16/05/13 09:51 PM

Interesting information on the "10.5" I have a Type A from 1924 stamped 10.75X68.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: deepwoods]
      #230184 - 18/05/13 01:27 AM

Nice old 9x57 SAUER for sale in sweden:







http://www.blocket.se/jamtland/Sauer_o_Sohn_47163329.htm?ca=3&w=3

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      #230185 - 18/05/13 03:48 AM

a best mauser from suhl

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      #230380 - 23/05/13 05:21 AM

one of the rarest rifles you can find:



original pre war mauser in 9,3x64 made by Schmidt&Habermann in Suhl for Brennecke /Leipzig

SCHMIDT & HABERMANN (SUHL)
A 9.3X64mm BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 80,
serial number on bolt only, 26 1/2in. nitro reproved barrel (in 2013), engraved 'W. BOHNE, STETTIN', and 'BRENNEKE GROSSWILDPATRONE CAL. 9.3X64R', block-mounted open sights and ramp-mounted bead fore-sight, receiver (with thumb cutout) with scroll engraving and signed 'E. SCHMIDT & HABERMANN. SUHL.', and mounted with a Kollmorgen Optical Corp. 'Bear Cub' telescopic sight in quickly-detachable mounts, manual side safety, hinged floorplate with lever release and 'ESHA' trademark, set triggers, horn fore-end finial, pistolgrip stock with horn pistolgrip-cap, cheekpiece, sling swivels, 14 3/8in. pull including 3/4in. rubber recoil pad
http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...6&saletype=

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #230384 - 23/05/13 06:05 AM

It would be very nice to own. It´s interesting to see the end price....

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230416 - 23/05/13 10:48 PM

And some more in Wienna:

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/?link=market&sale_id=90180

"Original Oberndorf Sporter Type B with hinged magazine floorplate with lever fastener, long cocking piece, Express sights with two additional folding leaves (one missing) and later added German claw mount bases. Starting price: 400€"





https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/?link=market&sale_id=87853

"Barrel engraved "For 333 Jeffery Cartridge", London Nitro proof marks before 1945, hinged magazine floorplate, interesting early African repeater in original condition. Starting price:240€"







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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230419 - 23/05/13 11:24 PM


Igorock

I tried the link but can't get in.

What is the estimate on the 333 Jeffrey ?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #230425 - 24/05/13 01:26 AM

because the 9,3x64 brennecke was sold by a gunmaker in Stettin wich was than a very important german harbour I believe we can assume it was bought for making a tour into a dangerous game country.




if you compare it with a 333 jeffery this is a very common rifle and it would be hard to find another pre war 9,3x64 again.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #230428 - 24/05/13 01:38 AM

Nitro, I was able to get in. You have to fill a small registration form which is not very user friendly.

There is no estimate for the .333 Jeffery but the starting bid is 240 EUR. The auction hasn't yet started according to the website.

I'm trying to understand the origin of the rifle. It appears to me to be an Oberndorf pre-WW1 Mauser Type B which was chambered to .333 Jeffery by the English trade, but I thought Rigby had sole rights in Britain to the Mauser action prior to 1912.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #230429 - 24/05/13 01:47 AM


mckinney

What about chambered for 333 Jeffrey in Germany
and then shipped somewhere after the war ?

Or shipped to someone in the UK between 1912
and 1914 when the war started.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #230430 - 24/05/13 01:49 AM


Lancaster

I think you'd have to take the gun / stock apart
to really know.

I can't remember seeing anything like that before
but as you know with the gun trade, anything goes
if the customer needs it in a hurry.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #230431 - 24/05/13 01:58 AM

Sounds plausible. If we could see all the marks on the gun, we'd know more. The auction entry states that the rifle was built in 1911 and proofed in Britain in 1945, which suggests that it lived elsewhere before then. Interesting looking rifle with a lot of character.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #230432 - 24/05/13 02:11 AM

I don't believe the .333 to be original as it is now. The action is a standard length Mauser action, but the stock is a pre-1912 commercial Mauser one inletted for an intermediate action like the ones used for the 7x57 = .275 Rigby. The front, rear sight and sling swivel bases are unlike any ever made by Mauser before WW2. The action seems to be of military production too, as it lacks the long striker nut then used on commercial Mausers. The magazine floorplate is not of straddle-type like those used by Mauser on .318 and other rifles.If action and stock were made by Mauser together the Mauser commercial serial number and proofmarks should be visible on the receiver ring, directly above the woodline. IMHO a concoction of a barreled action by some British maker assembled into a Mauser commercial stock to make a complete rifle. Fell into a similar trap once at a Holt's auction: Got an original, pre-1912 commercial Mauser stock like the one shown here, serial number 36750, wth the barreled WW1 small ring Kar98AZ 8x57IS action and British express sights.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #230433 - 24/05/13 02:36 AM


kudae

Thanks for that insight.

Lots of "bitser" guns as I call them
are around, especially around the wars.

I'll have to have a look at a photo of
my 333 and compare.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #230437 - 24/05/13 03:16 AM

Well, I've made a modest bid for it and will see how it goes. I don't believe it will sell for more than 700-800 Eur.

Incidentally, the other Type B from the same sale (pictured in Igorrock's post above) is in caliber 8x60S according to the auction listing.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #230467 - 25/05/13 03:09 AM

The barrel contour doesn't seem to be a genuine "Jeffery". As stated also, the stock doesn't belong either to the "Jeffery" concept.

I can only recommed the .333Jeffery. Good caliber that still surprise. I will bring mine on my third safari in August.

..go get one

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: rigbymauser]
      #230468 - 25/05/13 03:46 AM

Quote:

The front, rear sight and sling swivel bases are unlike any ever made by Mauser before WW2. The action seems to be of military production too, as it lacks the long striker nut then used on commercial Mausers.

In Jon Speed book you could see pre-ww1 W.J. Jeffery .333 Mauser with all those details. But as said, the stock seems to made for intermediate m98 action which has longer front ring.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230472 - 25/05/13 04:19 AM

Igorrock, sure I know Jon's books, my name is on page xi (first book), vi (smalbores). Look closer, "similar" is not "the same". And, Jeffery rifles were not put together by Mauser like Rigby's were, but by unknown British or even Belgian craftsmen. Further, I miss the Jeffery adress on this rifle. It merely sais it is chambered for Jeffery's cartridge. Not all rifles inscribed "5.6x61 Super Express vom Hofe" or "9.3x64 Brenneke" were made by or for vom Hofe or Brenneke.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230473 - 25/05/13 04:29 AM

The stock is definitely pre-WW1 commercial Mauser, with the swell on the sides, the rounded pistol grip and the slender tapered forend. I have two Type B's which have exactly the same stock, one in 7x57 and the other 8x57. The 7x57 has the same style floorplate as the .333, but without a release in the trigger guard. The 8x57 has set triggers and a floorplate with lever release. (Both are pictured somewhere on the forum in a long ago post). I really like the feel of the early stocks, especially the slim forend. The bolt knob on the .333 appears to me to be 'pear shaped' commercial and not the more rounded military style.

I think this rifle may just be an early Type B that was later chambered to .333 with some changes to the sights. However, if memory serves the .333 was introduced around 1905 so it would have been contemporaneous with the '98 action and the early Type B rifles.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #230476 - 25/05/13 04:52 AM

Quote:

Not all rifles inscribed "5.6x61 Super Express vom Hofe" or "9.3x64 Brenneke" were made by or for vom Hofe or Brenneke.

Of course, in my 9,3x64 Mauser barrel we could read Husqvarna...
We all know this .333 isn´t any collector item but if the next owner will change a new stock with correct outfit, IMO he (or she) would have quite a nice hunting rifle in good caliber anyway.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #230500 - 25/05/13 10:58 PM

TO LATE - ALLREADY SOLD

Mauser African Model in 9.3x62 Caliber. Probably the Most Unique and Seldom Encountered of the
Original Oberndorf Mauser Sporting Rifles. Serial Number 116000 - 1936-37 era. Rifle has seen virtually no use. Metalwork retains 99% of is rich dark blue, even the corners of the octagon barrel show little or no wear. Wood is excellent with most all of the original finish. Very unusual to find a rifle such as this that was obviously intended for intense use to be found in this condition. Certainly a rare collecting opportunity to add this one to any Mauser collection.
9.3x62 mm 28" Octagon with full integral rib.





















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      #230502 - 25/05/13 11:05 PM

R. G. Owen 250/3000 Caliber Custom Kurz Mauser Sporter. Metalwork is all Mauser except for the
locking front sight hood; that is the typical Owen design. Bohler barrel and action serial numbers
are matching. Proof date of 7/26 - 6.3mm. cal. Beautifully integrated quarter rib with 4 folding leaves.
Stock work is the typical superb example of Owen's highly renowned workmanship. Serial number
10827 on both action and barrel. Zeiss Zielvier 4x has clear crisp optics. Very neat outfit.

250/3000 22" w/ 1/4 Rib with 4 folding leaves.

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      #230637 - 29/05/13 05:55 AM

Auguste FRANCOTTE .416 RIGBY with ORIGINAL Pre-War MAUSER Magnum System:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4421321
























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #231762 - 28/06/13 03:59 AM

yes the stock have problems but interesting because its a 7mm vom Hofe
Mauser M 66 S http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4439873&PHPSESSID=1c48372950c373727e35fa1e0204049c















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #231767 - 28/06/13 05:47 AM

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but interesting because its a 7mm vom Hofe Mauser M 66 S


Not so unusual at all! The short, telescoping action of the Mauser 66 was invented in 1963 by Walter Gehmann, Karlsruhe, and patented DBPatent # 1205423. At the same time Walter Gehmann held the rights to the vom Hofe trademark and the vom Hofe proprietary cartridges. In fact, the 7x66 vom Hofe Super Express was designed by Gehmann in 1956, based on older prototypes by Wilhem Brenneke. The 7x66 SE v.Hofe was meant as a replacement of the 1931 7x73 vom Hofe SE. The belted case 7x73 needed a long Mauser Magnum action, unavailable in the 1950s. So Gehmann packed the ballistics in a shorter case that would work through a standard length M98 action without opening up. Of course, Gehmann had the rifles for his proprietary cartridges made by Mauser on his own action. BTW, this rifle was proofed HK = 1979.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #232951 - 26/07/13 01:46 PM

10.75X68 Double Square Bridge TypeB in France

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      #232955 - 26/07/13 04:23 PM

Very nice. Good price with those two square bridges.

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      #232976 - 27/07/13 02:55 AM

"Collection of British bolt action / takedown rifles - to be sold as a complete collection

9 big bore rifles in total

Only serious enquiries"
http://www.jamesedition.com/lifestyle-co...n-rifles-687344

would be interesting to know what it is, one seems to be a .425 Westley Richards something you dont see every day





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      #233311 - 01/08/13 01:44 PM

a 300 Win Mag Mauser made by Helbig for Glaser in Switzerland, post war






http://www.waffenboerse.ch/gebrauchtwaffen/jagdwaffen/glaser-helbig-repetierer-98-300-winch-mag.html

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      #234267 - 15/08/13 12:31 AM

Here's an enigma: an Oberndorf Mauser which, judging from the numberous visible pits, looks as though it was buried at some point and dug up, with a non-factory barrel in 8X64, and a laminated stock, which the proud seller describes as being made from "nobly figured light colored stock wood", and a one piece banded front claw mount base the like of which I have never seen before. This rifle is being bid up far above its apparent value, for some reason I can't fathom: http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4517157

The seller has evidently had some problems with truthfulness in the past, judging from his feedback. His user name is not particularly trust inspiring: bettphannenchef (bed pan manager).

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      #234282 - 15/08/13 04:57 AM

Xausa, this is a prewar commercial Mauser action, rebarreled to 9.3x64 Brenneke, not 8x64. The rust pitting is a quite common sight on German guns that escaped liberation in 1945 and were hidden for several years in the most unlikely places.
These rear scope mount bases are usually found on 1960s Mannlicher-Schoenauer GK rifles here in Germany, a typical German aftermarket claw mount system like the one on my 6.5x68 M-Sch:

BTW. the sellers name is "Bettpannenchef". I would rather translate this as "boss of bed breakdown". "Bed pan manager" would be "Bettpfannenchef".

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234292 - 15/08/13 01:28 PM

question is what is was before
9,3x64 dont fit in the magazin when it was in the 8x57 class before.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234312 - 16/08/13 01:33 AM

Kuduae,

This is what comes of old age and failure to check sources. My humble apologies for the mistakes you pointed out. Maybe nearing the 3/4 century mark is some excuse. Incidentally, I thoroughly enjoyed your contributions to Der Waffenschmidt!

I'm a little curious about the subject raised by Lancaster. I believe 9.3X64 required a 92mm magazine box, so some modification was likely necessary.

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      #234320 - 16/08/13 05:20 AM

iirc, 92 mm is the length you need for the 375 H&H
I think you need 86-87mm for the 9,3x64 and its possible to file a standard magazin box to this length. dont know if the Mauser works ever made an original sporter in 9,3x64 because it was a Brennecke proprietary cartridge before WW 2.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #234323 - 16/08/13 05:55 AM

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question is what is was before
9,3x64 dont fit in the magazin when it was in the 8x57 class before.


CIP max cartridge oal is 85.6 mm for the 9.3x64. Jon Speed, Mauser OOSR, gives the factory magazine dimensions of commercial Oberndorf sporting rifles. 8x60, 9x57, 10.75x68 = 84mm oal. 9.3x62 = 85mm. .30-06, 7x64, 8x64 = 88mm (opened up to the front), .318, .333J, 9.3x64 = 92mm (opened up front and rear). IMHO a 9.3x64 with the bullet seated to 85.6mm CIP oal will quite well through an 88mm magazine. Even an 84mm box can be filed ot front and rear to take the 9.3x64. Of course, such a magzine will take only three of the fatter cartridges. Post WW2 many standard length ex-military 98 actions and magazines were opened up to take even the .375 H&H. Even the FN/Browning so-called "Magnum" action is merely an opened up standard length one. Mauser themselves used Magnum length actions with a 95mm mag for such numbers.
BTW that 9.4x64 rifle sold for EURO 514.99, about $ 670.-. Here are some auction photos:



IMHO the design is influenced by Art Alphin's A-Square "Hannibal" rifles of years gone by.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #234324 - 16/08/13 06:14 AM

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dont know if the Mauser works ever made an original sporter in 9,3x64 because it was a Brennecke proprietary cartridge before WW 2.


Apparently they did, as they listed this cartridge in their magazine dimension table. BTW, all "Original Wilhelm Brenneke, Leipzig" pre-war bolt action rifles I know about were actually made for Brenneke by Schmidt & Habermann, Suhl, eveidenced by a hidden "ESHA" stamp you find on all these famous rifles. Early postwar "Original Wilhelm Brenneke, Berlin" were bought in from Walter Röll, who continued the Mauser commercial production into the 1960s. Later ones were put together by others on FN actions.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234325 - 16/08/13 08:21 AM


Lancaster

Re ""Collection of British bolt action / takedown rifles - to be sold as a complete collection"

What I would like to know is how many are take downs
and what type of Take down mechanisms are used.

Obviously the WR is shown, I wonder of the Holland
style of stock and action coming apart is represented ?

And I can't think of the third method.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234354 - 17/08/13 04:18 AM

[quote
BTW that 9.4x64 rifle sold for EURO 514.99, about $ 670.-.



The way the ultimate price was arrived at struck me as rather peculiar. A bidder with no successful bids to his credit kept pushing the price up, until only one other bidder was active, and then, intentionally or not, successfully outbid the remaining bidder by 5.00 Euros. It makes me wonder if the seller was not employing a shill, who bid one time too often and was left holding the bag. Obviously from the number of exclamation points used in the description, the seller thought very highly of his offering.

Incidentally, I just noticed that the same rifle is again for sale by the same seller http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4533119, and once again a novice bidder is running the price up.

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      #234355 - 17/08/13 04:50 AM

the usual internet auction game

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      #234356 - 17/08/13 05:05 AM

There should be a way to report this kind of deception, but so far I have been unable to determine how. Egun has a way of blacklisting a buyer, but I can find nothing which pertains to complaints about an unscrupulous seller.

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      #234390 - 18/08/13 02:16 AM

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the usual internet auction game



You got to "love" the sellers where you bid on an internet auction item, no bids since the start of the auction a lengthy period of time, you make a bid, an hour later a higher bid is made, then days later, you make a second bid, again you are bid against ... pretty obvious the seller is bidding the price up himself, using a second alias.

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      #234659 - 25/08/13 03:55 AM

HOLT'S
Fine Modern & Antique Guns - September 2013
London
19 Sep 2013







Sale A190913 Lot 1140

MAUSER
A 7X57mm '1912' BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 67971,
24in. nitro reproved barrel with adjustable tangent rear sight marked to 1000 yards, ramp-mounted bead fore-sight, receiver ring marked 'WAFFENFABRIK MAUSER A.G. OBERNDORF A/N 1912', thumb cutout, floorplate with military style release, semi-pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, sling swivel, 13 1/2in. pull including original buttplate, in a full length canvas and leather case with J. Graham & Co. (Inverness) gold-tooled leather label


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      #234661 - 25/08/13 05:31 AM

I have noticed that HOLT´S do not comprehend those original Mauser sporting rifles very high.

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      #234685 - 25/08/13 11:09 PM

Quote:

[quote
BTW that 9.4x64 rifle sold for EURO 514.99, about $ 670.-.



The way the ultimate price was arrived at struck me as rather peculiar. A bidder with no successful bids to his credit kept pushing the price up, until only one other bidder was active, and then, intentionally or not, successfully outbid the remaining bidder by 5.00 Euros. It makes me wonder if the seller was not employing a shill, who bid one time too often and was left holding the bag. Obviously from the number of exclamation points used in the description, the seller thought very highly of his offering.

Incidentally, I just noticed that the same rifle is again for sale by the same seller http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4533119, and once again a novice bidder is running the price up.



The second auction has now ended, with the same results, except that this time the final bid, also made by a straw bidder, was even lower than the first time around, 402.00 Euros.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #234699 - 26/08/13 04:59 AM

Very interesting rifle , what seems to be a prewar vom Hofe super express (Original commercial Oberndorf action and- to my view- Oberndorf Type A stock.
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4545833

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      #234718 - 26/08/13 01:20 PM

yes, looks great and 7x73 vom Hofe super express is not something you see everyday


















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      #234722 - 26/08/13 01:34 PM

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yes, looks great and 7x73 vom Hofe super express is not something you see everyday







For some reason the 7mm vom Hofe Super Express has always interested me. I think it was after reading, I think it was a Harald Wolf article, on a German hunter who used a 7mm SEVH and a .404 for hunts across the world. (Corrected - it may not have been a .404 but a .500 NE double rifle.)

I looked up the ballistics at the time, and from memory they were something like a 7mm Rem Mag?

What was the case based on?

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      #234723 - 26/08/13 01:41 PM

Did a search on NE and found this thread, which appears to be a 7x66 SEVH - http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=73139&an=&page=0&vc=1

I see the 7x66 ballistics are about 3000 fps for a 170 gr projectile. The 7x73 (belted) cartridge generated a "reported" 3300 fps for a 170 gr projectile - per factory Gehrmann loads, which COTW reports as "optimistic".

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      #234724 - 26/08/13 01:45 PM

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What was the case based on?



iirc, the 404

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      #234726 - 26/08/13 01:57 PM

Quote:

Quote:

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What was the case based on?



iirc, the 404



Isn't that the 7x66? The 7x73 appears to be a belted case?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #234728 - 26/08/13 02:27 PM

Beautiful looking rifle and very interesting chambering. I don't think those lines have ever been improved on.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Claydog]
      #234732 - 26/08/13 04:36 PM

The parent case of 7x73 SEvH was .300 H&H. But it´s interesting to notice that vom Hofes case head is a tad bigger than .300`s.


7x73



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #234750 - 27/08/13 12:42 AM

Solid left wall, magnum length round-top action. Pre-war?
Not sure I have ever seen this configuration.
Reminds me of the Halger I had... Similar case to the .280 Dubiel too.

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      #234756 - 27/08/13 03:14 AM

yes looks like pre war to me! I think Funk in Suhl was making the rifles for vom Hofe maybe kuduae see this.
dont say the rifle is perfect but it would be a simple job just changing the old firewood against a mcmillan tactical stock. new stainless barrel in 460 weatherby and a weaver rail and you are ready

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      #234761 - 27/08/13 06:05 AM

All the 7x73 SEvH are pre-war and were built on Mauser commercial Magnum length actions. Note the position of the recoil crossbolt at the rear of the receiver ring, a dead giveaway for a Mauser Magnum action. As true Magnum length actions were available no more after WW2, cartridge production was not resumed. Gehmann, who owned the "Vom Hofe" trademark, designed the rimless 7x66 SEvH instead as a replacement, as this shorter cartridge could be used in an opened up standard length action. BTW, in designing the 7x66, Gehmann copied a pre-war experimental cartridge by Wilhelm Brenneke. I even know a pre-war vom Hofe rifle, originally in 7x73. Post-war Gehmann rebarreled this rifle to 7x66 and inserted a wood filler block to shorten the now unnecessarily long magazine! the most silly conversion I have ever seen! I don't know who made these rifles for vom Hofe. May have been Chr.Funk or Schmidt & Habermann, who made all the "Original Wilhelm Brenneke, Leipzig" rifles.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #234762 - 27/08/13 06:17 AM

Looking at the details of the metal and wood, it appears to be the work of Friedrich Triebel.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234763 - 27/08/13 06:19 AM

Interesting info again ! Thanks Kuduae !

By the way, quite nice CECO -mauser for sale in sweden. What a pity that the original stock is missing:

http://www.blocket.se/boden/GECO_mauser_98_9_3x57_48961318.htm?ca=3&w=3







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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #234765 - 27/08/13 08:34 AM

Were magnum actions with rounded rear bridges more or less common than a square rear bridge or did they have the rear square bridge taken off?
My Halger had a rear square bridge and I think others I have seen did too.

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      #234800 - 28/08/13 01:56 PM

10,75x68 african model serial number 27682
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      #234801 - 28/08/13 02:40 PM

I think I could learn to live with the scope and gold lettering. Looks a good restoration and I would love to get hold of one of those Africa models.

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      #234803 - 28/08/13 03:11 PM

This rifle seems to be "an old friend"......

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #234807 - 28/08/13 10:10 PM

"Note the position of the recoil crossbolt at the rear of the receiver ring, a dead giveaway for a Mauser Magnum action."

Why is this the case and not like a standard Mauser?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Don]
      #234809 - 28/08/13 10:31 PM

Quote:

"Note the position of the recoil crossbolt at the rear of the receiver ring, a dead giveaway for a Mauser Magnum action."

Why is this the case and not like a standard Mauser?

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Most dimensions are shared by the standard and magnum length actions except, of course, length.
Even the distance between the screws coming up from the bottom metal is the same.
The foreward lug (under the receiver ring) on a standard action is out near the forward end of the action so the crossbolt behind it ends up more or less directly below the center of the front ring.
On a magnum action, the foreward lug is close to centered under the front ring so the crossbolt is farther rearward toward the back edge of the front ring.
I have been meaning to photograph this. It is very obvious in a side by side photo.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #234820 - 29/08/13 04:40 AM

Here is a comment I just got from Jon Speed:
" By the way I saw the small talk on Nitro site about the 7X73 von Hofe rifle and wanted to add that the action on this rifle had been a Single squre bridge soild left wall example but on many von Hofe rifles the rear bridge was milled down to set up suhler type scope bases.This was also the case on some Halger rifles as these groups did not consider the Mauser square bridge scope mounting strong enough for whatever reason."
I disagree slightly with friend Jon on the last sentence only: Imho they did not want to buy Mauser's proprietary rear rings that only came in more or less standardised sizes and heights. So they removed the square bridge to be able to fit Suhl made, f.i. by A.W.Triebel, claw mount bases and rings. Noone of their then customers cared about "collector grade originality", they only wanted a reliable, strong, scoped rifle.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234826 - 29/08/13 07:52 AM

Thanks Kuduae, that clears it up for me as far as the lack of a rear square bridge.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #234827 - 29/08/13 10:13 AM

Thanks Kuduae I guess the point is that in this case since the screws coming up from the bottom metal to the underside of the action and joining where the recoil lug is defines the position of the cross bolt. Since the screws coming up from the bottom metal on a magnum action is in the the same location as a standard action, because the magnum action is lengthen this has the effect of the recoil lug appearing move backward with the cross bolt at the rear of receiver ring. Make sense?

Another question: I have heard that on occasion that gunsmiths would take two standard Mauser actions cut each one in two at a difference of 3/16" and re-weld them to create a "magnum" Mauser in light of what you said I don't see how this was possible. Have you heard anything on the surgical production of "magnum" Mauser?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Don]
      #234843 - 29/08/13 04:09 PM

Quote:

I have heard that on occasion that gunsmiths would take two standard Mauser actions cut each one in two at a difference of 3/16" and re-weld them to create a "magnum" Mauser in light of what you said I don't see how this was possible. Have you heard anything on the surgical production of "magnum" Mauser?


Here in Finland some gunsmiths have done such a job. It succeeds but needs much finishing works and special jig when welding those two halves together. And properly heat treating too. I have also seen pictures of m98 action shortened to m96 lenght.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #234858 - 30/08/13 03:30 AM

this one was cut and weld for the the lenght of the 8x33 Kurz










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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #234859 - 30/08/13 04:52 AM

Such cutting and welding can and has been done, even to the end that two actions resulted, a long and a short one. But the elongated action will not be identical to a true Magnum action from the Mauser, Oberndorf factory. As you cannot move the recoil lug and the screw hole under the receiver ring rearwards, you will also have to fabricate longer bottom metal too to match the new, longer screw hole spacing. BTW the rare made in France Brevex Magnum "Mauser" actions of the post-WW2 years were of such a design, new made but with a longer screw spacing. As no pre-shaped stock will fit such an action with non-standard screw spacing, hand stocking is the only option.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234860 - 30/08/13 05:19 AM

Must be why the Brevex action is preferred for building 505 Gibbs rifles.
From what I have heard, even the original magnum Mauser is a tight fit for a 505.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #234867 - 30/08/13 08:38 AM

Here is a in the white .416 Rigby working rifle built on a BREVEX 400 Magnum action.
These fine actions were made in Suresnes, France by Polonsky from mid fifties to mid sixties.
They were offered in two versions, the 300 model for .375 H&H Magnum rimless type cartridges and the 400 for the .416 Rigby and .505 Gibbs rounds.
They were the only true magnum Mauser type actions available to the trade in the years following WWII.
They are extremely tough and reliable but need much work.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DORLEAC]
      #234870 - 30/08/13 11:27 AM

Thanks for all the information. I am fascinated by Mausers and all their variations, one of the greatest designs in firearms. Final question, when they built Mauser magnums at the plant why did they in many cases have the thumb cut in the left receiver wall? I don't know that many heavy caliber rifles that load with a stripper clip.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Don]
      #234886 - 30/08/13 06:01 PM

Two reasons for the thumb cut:
#1 Many user feel it is more comfortable to reload especially on a scoped rifle.
#2 Controlling hot gases in case of a ruptured shell was Mauser´s intention.

And last but not least a customer wants to have a cutout because most old british rifles had it.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #234887 - 30/08/13 06:27 PM

Excepting a few experimental K actions, all commercial Mauser actions, short, intermediate, standard or magnum length, round or square bridge, had thumb cuts and clip slots until the 1930s.As justcurious writes, the thumb cut was protected by Mauser as a means to gas escape in case of a blown primer or ruptured case. This was not so rare a occurence in the 1890. The Mauser action blows gas that has entered the bolt into the left side of the receiver, from where it it can escape through the generous opening of the "thumb cut" without doing harm. Gas that continues to the rear past the "thumb cut" is then taken care of by the gas flange on the bolt sleeve.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #234889 - 30/08/13 07:40 PM

Love Mausers, just the best action that has never been improved upon. And I don't care who says different!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Taylor416]
      #234895 - 30/08/13 09:26 PM

nice barreled action for a projekt in 8x57IS








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in the first moment you have to look what it is, a mannlicher schönauer? a M 88 or a Suhl made derivative?
its a mini mauser 71 in 8,15x46R
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #234899 - 30/08/13 11:51 PM

Quote:

nice barreled action for a projekt in 8x57IS




The dovetail cut in the receiver ring of this World War I military action appears much too deep for safety. My guess is that it extends all the way into the upper locking lug recess. I have heard that such an action would not be accepted for proof today. If I remember correctly, it was this kind of action which P.O. Ackley utterly destroyed in one of his action strength tests.

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      #234912 - 31/08/13 04:31 AM

I was talking abou this with my old now retired gunmaker, old scholl master from suhl and very pernickety.
he had a good opinion about this saying it was not seeing as a problem for decades. if there was not the problem today with some proof houses- not all- he would not boggle to do it.
and it depends on the rifle or not? a stalking rifle making 20 shots a year with common loads will not explode so quickly

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #234915 - 31/08/13 04:41 AM

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its a mini mauser 71 in 8,15x46R








Made in Zella-Mehlis and proofed by the proofhouse there in April 1913, gun number 877 of that month. Of the German proofhouses only Z-M stamped these ledger numbers. Chambered for the normalised version of the 8.15x46R.

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      #234920 - 31/08/13 05:07 AM

so there must have been a book once where every gun was listed? or do it exist?

nice little rifle for the roe deer

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #234926 - 31/08/13 07:45 AM

Quote:

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nice little rifle for the roe deer



Very interesting, but in my eyes it was nice once...
now destroyed by an unnecessary, too big and too modern scope, what a pity!

Let's wait for the result of the auction, I expect it will not bring more than the cost of the second-hand scope, the mount and the other renovations...maybe even less than that...no value of the rifle itself will be left.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: fuhrmann]
      #235332 - 09/09/13 04:02 AM

This rifle is outside in very bad condition but despite that IMO very interesting rifle, it seems to have a real K (short) action. Seller says that caliber is 6,5x54 MS but I suppose It would be 6,5x54 Mauser...

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #235345 - 09/09/13 01:34 PM

very sad

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #235351 - 09/09/13 08:19 PM

I have a kurz that has a replacement bolt made by shortening a regular bolt. The replacement bolt functions OK but is not as good as I would like. If some kind soul in Germany would like to buy this rifle to swap bolts and maybe other parts it could be made a mutually "good deal". For example a I have a pattern stock with a stockmaker who can duplicate.

If you are interested please email foveauxsailor@gmail.com

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      #235381 - 10/09/13 03:24 AM

you get a pm

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #235651 - 15/09/13 04:56 PM

Model 98 in 9,3x64
Büchsenmacher Walther Gernot, Kochel am See - engraved by Heinz Funk
Zeiss Diavari- Z T* 2,5-10x52 on claw mount












http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4571122

458 Win Mag by Harald Wolf,made in 1987
scope is a 1,1-4,5 x 20 Helia Karl Kahles Wien mit Absehen 4.













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #235653 - 15/09/13 06:25 PM

I´m not sure but IMO the last one is Winchester m70, not Mauser....?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #235660 - 15/09/13 09:31 PM

could be I am not so familar with this modern and outlandish stuff

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #235865 - 20/09/13 08:45 PM

Mauser 71/84 made in Spandau, an old sporter
11,15x60R





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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #235915 - 22/09/13 05:11 AM

The Walther Gernot has a very interesting safety. Shotgun tang style. Very very nice.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Tentman]
      #235949 - 23/09/13 02:47 AM

Quote:

I have a kurz that has a replacement bolt made by shortening a regular bolt. The replacement bolt functions OK but is not as good as I would like. If some kind soul in Germany would like to buy this rifle to swap bolts and maybe other parts it could be made a mutually "good deal". For example a I have a pattern stock with a stockmaker who can duplicate.

If you are interested please email foveauxsailor@gmail.com

Cheers
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The auction is over and someone got a bargain. Anyone care to 'fess up?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #235955 - 23/09/13 03:42 AM

I bought it for tentman and the bolt will make a very long journey
dont know what will happen with the rest of the rifle and yes very cheap

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #235960 - 23/09/13 06:32 AM

Quote:

The Walther Gernot has a very interesting safety.


Just to straighten up things: The name of the man is Gernot Walther, not the other way around. He is known for many years as one of the best stockmakers in Germany. He stocked most, if not all, rifles for Hartmann & Weiss, Hamburg.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #235961 - 23/09/13 06:38 AM

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The auction is over and someone got a bargain. Anyone care to 'fess up?


Congratulations, Lancaster! Those steel Zeiss Zielvier scopes alone usually go for Euro 200.- to 300.- usually. If you see a problem in removing the soldered on scope mounts, email or phone me.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DORLEAC]
      #235979 - 24/09/13 03:12 AM

What a stunner. I have never seen a better looking .416 Rigby. The lines are exquisite. I have a G&H .416 built on the Brevex action in 1982 and also an original pre-war Rigby from about 1918. Both are pictured in old posts somewhere here on the forum. Neither can hold a candle to this rifle.

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      #235980 - 24/09/13 03:26 AM

Quote:

Quote:

The auction is over and someone got a bargain. Anyone care to 'fess up?


Congratulations, Lancaster! Those steel Zeiss Zielvier scopes alone usually go for Euro 200.- to 300.- usually. If you see a problem in removing the soldered on scope mounts, email or phone me.



dont know how this story end, the rifle will go to my gunmaker to avoid any cost and problems with a gun licence. we will see if its necessary to have a export licence to send the bolt alone to new zealand. the future will show if there will be any use for the "rest".

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #235981 - 24/09/13 04:11 AM

Wow what a nice story for Tentman! It shows that gun collectors are true gentlemen.

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      #235997 - 24/09/13 03:58 PM

Yes - Lancaster has been very very kind, as have many others on this and other forums, truly the internet has improved our ability to be good to each other.

There is still "some water to pass under the bridge" before I get the bolt but that is all I need from the deal so maybe other people looking of Kurz parts may also benefit from it.

Thanks Lancaster.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Tentman]
      #236025 - 25/09/13 07:04 AM

This is rifle what I like:

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #236065 - 26/09/13 05:01 AM

great rifle but belongs more into the Mannlicher Schönauer at auctions
could be a german gunmaker's work or an original hungarian sporting rifle anyway looks very, very desirable!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #236072 - 26/09/13 06:42 AM

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great rifle but belongs more into the Mannlicher Schönauer at auctions


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #236542 - 09/10/13 04:29 AM

Stutzen in 9x57, number 85694
oal 102cm, barrel 52cm long
„E Kirchhoff Dieringhausen RHLD.“ on the barrel












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nice rifle also in 9x57 Mauser with double set trigger, never had a scope mount before
would sayits made in Suhl/Zella Mehlis











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #236570 - 10/10/13 04:20 AM

Kar 88 receiver I'm thinking. I have a similar old girl built in Suhl in 1921. Sweet handling rifle, one of my favorites. So light and handy.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Even]
      #236572 - 10/10/13 04:42 AM

No , thats not a Kar98 receiver. Standard Large Ring, but made up in the same manner.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #236587 - 10/10/13 02:55 PM

Pretty good looking 333 Jeffery on Gunbroker.
I need to look away...
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=370081230

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #236590 - 10/10/13 05:40 PM

Very nice Jeffery, indeed.

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #236644 - 13/10/13 08:12 PM

Quite rare "bird"; Haenel 8x57

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #236645 - 13/10/13 08:39 PM

It's a Haenel Modell 1900, high grade St.P.No.9 With ribbed,half octogon barrel, matted and case hardened action, double set trigger. Made in small numbers only from 1900 to 1909. See "Der Waffenschmied # 33", A publication of the German Gun Collectors Association, www.germanguns.com

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      #236647 - 13/10/13 11:29 PM

wasnt enough for you igorrock to bring other people in temtation with the 98/40 sporter?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #237190 - 28/10/13 02:54 AM

Littlejohn Auctions has some nice Mausers in their next auction.

.275 Rigby
http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co...m=9&lang=En

.333 Jeffery
http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co...m=1&lang=En

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      #237192 - 28/10/13 03:54 AM

here are the pics

http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co...m=9&lang=En
re-war J. J. Jeffery & Co. bolt action hunting rifle, finely engraved receiver, floor plate and trigger guard, .333 Jeffery cal., 24-1/2” barrel, blue finish, British proofed, hooded front sight, 5-stage rear sight with adjustable front stage, single trigger, sling swivels, checkered wood stock with checkered steel butt plate and 5-section cleaning rod in butt trap, accented ebony fore end cap, length of pull to end of butt plate is 14”, #23561. This gun is in overall fine condition showing the majority of its dark blue finish, with niter blue color on the extractor and exterior plate of the bolt release, fine bore, crisp action, sharp markings and fine wood stock with silver disc inlaid ebony semi-pistol grip end cap; as mentioned before, the engraving on this rifle is classic Germanic scroll and floral of the finest quality; the barrel has the QS trade mark and is of nickel steel construction. If you’re looking for a serious “old school” hunting rifle that will do the job, look no further. Est.: $5,500-$6,500.






http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co...m=9&lang=En
Rigby bolt action rifle, .275 cal., 24-1/2” round barrel marked “John Rigby & Co. Sackville St. London”, built on a Mauser action, three stage rear sight (2 stages flip-up); receiver top with scope mount bases; blue finish, checkered wood stock, steel butt plate, sling swivel eyelets, single trigger, # 66963/5362, accompanied with fabric covered luggage style casing marked “BARON CEDERSTROM” displaying several partial old shipping labels; interior is green baize lined with John Rigby & Co. label, Instructions for Cleaning Rifle after Shooting label, compartments include a leather sling, an old jar of Vaseline Blue Seal Petroleum Jelly, a nickeled powder funnel, a two-piece cleaning rod, an ivory circular container with ivory screw cap, a tin bottle marked “Special Cleaning Fluid” and a matching tin bottle marked “Rangoon Oil”, both by Rigby & Co. (how neat is that!), a pull-thru cleaning brush for .275 in leather pouch, a small empty leather pouch and a leather carry pouch with Zeiss Jena scope marked “John Rigby & Co.” with mounts that fit this rifle’s mount bases, displaying fine optics and with leather sight covers. This finely made hunting rifle is in overall very good condition showing the majority of its old quality re-blue finish with a few minor small spots of erosion, fine bore, crisp action, sharp markings and overall very good wood stock with minor old scattered mars and scratches from carry and storage; steel plate re-enforced wrist. Baron Cederstrom had an interesting life having been born into a famous Swedish family who ran a Health Gymnastic Clinic in London. In 1899, he married a woman 19 years his senior and who owned a castle with large land holdings. The baron spent the following years hunting and fishing and performing in the theater with his wife until her death in 1919. He inherited her property and promptly put it up for sale with the castle bringing a price of 19,000 English pounds. Est.: $3,500-$7,000.













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #237196 - 28/10/13 04:56 AM

pre war Wilhelm Brennecke Leipzig long Stutzen in 7x64 with a VOIGTLÄNDER, Braunschweig PANSCOPAR 3,5-6x Abs. 1 on claw mount
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original mauser in 9,3x62 number 118561

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      #237198 - 28/10/13 05:13 AM

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4622836
original mauser in 9,3x62 number 104956, made around 1930
60 cm long octagonal barrel, with original rare stalking safety































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #237211 - 28/10/13 09:26 PM

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I will never understand what caused German gun makers to alter bolt handles in this hideous way, when they had a perfectly good example of what a flat bolt handle should look like in the Mannlicher Schoenauer and the Mauser Type M. This monstrosity looks to me as though it was simply heated red hot and hammered flat, with no effort made to create graceful lines. Then, in an attempt to hide the crime, a little metal checkering was added. I am equally at a loss as to why the gun buying public found this acceptable.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #237217 - 29/10/13 12:22 AM

Quote:

I am equally at a loss as to why the gun buying public found this acceptable.

IMO that´s easy way to make lower bolt handle. And I have to say I like their outlook. The fast loading ability are not allways a issue, depending what kind of hunting you mostly do.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #237220 - 29/10/13 01:18 AM

[quote IMO that´s easy way to make lower bolt handle. And I have to say I like their outlook. The fast loading ability are not allways a issue, depending what kind of hunting you mostly do.



This is definitely a quick and easy (and cheap) way of modifying a bolt. However, from the photos there is no indication that it made the handle any lower. The root of the bolt remains unaltered.

The scope is certainly mounted just as high as it would have been for an unaltered bolt.

Everything about this rifle says "class" from the stock wood, to the stock execution, to the engraving on the action and magazine cover, to the engraved name of the maker and the "Brenneke Hochleistungspatrone Kal. 7X64" marking on the barrel. Everything except the bolt handle, which really deserves the sobriquet "butter knife", since the flattened portion really is thin enough to cut with. Anyone who has used a Mannlicher Schoenauer, a Mauser Type M, or a BRNO 21/22 would immediately notice the difference.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #237223 - 29/10/13 03:26 AM

I always thought the spoon handle was for ease of cycling with bulky gloves on in cold weather hunting.
Of course, the set trigger arrangement belies that theory don't it...

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #237225 - 29/10/13 04:53 AM

I don't object to that kind of bolt handle per se, as long as it looks like this:

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #237227 - 29/10/13 06:31 AM

BTW, all the prewar "Original Wilhelm Brenneke, Leipzig" bolt action rifles were in fact made for Brenneke by E.Schmidt & Habermann, Suhl. If you have a close look you will always find the small trademark Esha stamp on these "Brenneke" rifles. Most often it is under the barrel, sometimes even hidden below the magazine floorplate opening lever.
The Brenneke rifles even retain the Schmidt & Habermann serial numbers, often found on the rear sight base. Here is again the rear sight and serial number of the full-stocked "Brenneke" rifle shown above:



And here is the one on my Schmidt & Habermann M21 in 6.5x54 K Mauser:



As Schmidt & Habermann numbered all their guns in one consecutive series, regardless of type and model, both rifles are datable to 1922-3.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #237237 - 29/10/13 03:47 PM

Quote:

I will never understand what caused German gun makers to alter bolt handles in this hideous way, when they had a perfectly good example of what a flat bolt handle should look like in the Mannlicher Schoenauer and the Mauser Type M.



What xausa said (sort of...)

Regarding the "butter-knife" bolt-handle, it is my belief that they are inappropriate when the bolt-handle is attached behind the rear bridge, as on the Mausers pictured.

Having owned and hunted with MS rifles for several decades, frequently reloading at the shoulder in the thick of things, I have come to understand that the flat Mannlicher-style bolt-handle works by placing the thumb on the top of the "root" and lifting with the fingers. This is a piece of cake (and very fast!) if the handle is forward of a split-bridge, but not ergonomic at all if the rear mount-base, bolt-shroud flange, and cocking-piece safety are all conspiring to get in the way.

And don't get me started on the swept-back butter-knife bolt-handle demanded by the American market in the 1950s: utterly defeats the purpose, and of course, ultimately caused the demise of this marvelous genre of classic hunting rifles.

Just my humble opinion BTW, worth precisely what you paid for it.
Happy to consider thoughts and experiences from Mauser Type M users...?

As for the ugly(?) panel-beaten example discussed above, not my cup of tea at all I'm afraid.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Marrakai]
      #237238 - 29/10/13 04:00 PM

[quoteHaving owned and hunted with MS rifles for several decades, frequently reloading at the shoulder in the thick of things, I have come to understand that the flat Mannlicher-style bolt-handle works by placing the thumb on the top of the "root" and lifting with the fingers. This is a piece of cake (and very fast!) if the handle is forward of a split-bridge, but not ergonomic at all if the rear mount-base, bolt-shroud flange, and cocking-piece safety are all conspiring to get in the way.



How does this technique work with a scope mounted?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #237239 - 29/10/13 04:09 PM

Rear mount on a Mannlicher, split-bridge Mauser or Commission rifle is usually a side-mount on left side. Doesn't get in the way on those I've fired belonging to friends, although my own examples are open-sighted.
The thumb doesn't want to stay on the bolt-handle 'root' once the bolt is lifted BTW.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Marrakai]
      #238102 - 21/11/13 05:54 AM

Some nice Mausers for sale in auction in Sweden



http://auctionet.com/sv/101287-116-kulge...se-nr-se0130509



http://auctionet.com/sv/101203-177-kulge.../images#image_1



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      #238209 - 22/11/13 09:14 PM

please dont forget the informations coming with this pics


101287. (116) KULGEVÄR, tyskt, Repeter, fabrikat Mauser Obendorf, modell 98, kaliber 6,5x55, tillv.nr 121799, se-nr SE0130509.



101203. (177) KULGEVÄR, tyskt, Repeter, fabrikat Mauser Obendorf, modell 98, kaliber 8x57, tillv.nr 11884, se-nr SE1058088.



103394. (179) KULGEVÄR, tyskt, Repeter, fabrikat Mauser Obendorf, modell 98, kaliber 8x60 Norm, tillv.nr 116677.

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      #238225 - 23/11/13 05:09 AM

good working gun in 9x57 Mauser





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      #238401 - 29/11/13 05:34 PM

10,75x68 single square bridge with original Mauser scope mount
old Zeiss zielvier and a Leupold 1,5-5x20
number 89936
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #238405 - 29/11/13 08:26 PM

Here is a proper Type B Mauser built in 1924 complete with original factory scope and a working scope. A great bargain at it's current bid price.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #238411 - 30/11/13 01:08 AM

Urgh! The 8x60 Afrika model is sold! Did Dorleac buy it again?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #238422 - 30/11/13 06:18 AM

first time on this forum.live in Sweden.
At last Widforss gun auction the 3 org mausers
Went at prices that sugests foreign buyers.
One of the guns was 6,5/55 with serial number 121799.
I have one exactly like with SN 121798.This makes them
Twins with consecutive SN.Mine was bought at Walther Borg
auction few years ago in Norrköping.
If You bought nr 121799 contact me I can be persuaded to
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: korv]
      #238449 - 30/11/13 05:04 PM

The 8X60 African made AUD5K, apart from the recoil pad it looked excellent plus, anyone her buy it??

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      #239046 - 10/12/13 02:59 AM

Halger-Waffen, Kiel Mauser Magnum Squarebridge .280 Halger High Velocity Magnum

28 1/2" barrel of Krupp 3-ring steel with single standing express sight, ramp front sight, under-barrel recoil lug and barrel-band swivel. Banner Mauser Magnum Squarebridge action number 91291 built in 1924, all matching, with extended checkered bolt knob, case hardened bolt assembly, double set trigger, hinged straddle floorplate with release in trigger guard bow and both Greener-type safety and standard Mauser safety. Figured walnut stock with horn forend tip, horn heel and toe plates and beaded cheekpiece. Trapdoor pistol grip cap with extra front bead and sight hood. J P Sauer number 261986 on action and barrel, Halger number 177 on action and barrel. German pre-war commercial BUG proofs dated 1932. Weight: 9lbs, 6oz. Reputedly ex-Winchester Experimental Dept. collection. Beautiful mint original condition. $12,750.
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #239367 - 16/12/13 08:45 PM

Europe and the UK seems like the place to be if you want to buy these types of rifles.

I have not seen any on Ozzie used guns. Or am I looking in the wrong place?

Some of the euro prices look reasonable. Hate to see what they would go for here.

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      #239637 - 21/12/13 07:15 AM

8x60S with post war scope mount and a leupold
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4687242
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a Emil Kerner/Suhl in 8x57I
52cm long octagonal in round krupp stahl barrel, rare Oigee Berlin Luxor on claw mount
a very typical Suhl made mauser from between the war's http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4693421













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      #240163 - 04/01/14 08:33 PM

Manufrance"Rival" rifle in 10,75x68

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      #241373 - 28/01/14 07:31 PM

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4781435

10,75x68, number 122831 made in 1939/40
double square bridge, octagonal barrel with tangent rear sight, action without thumb hole

BUT
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      #241429 - 29/01/14 05:41 PM

looks like a typical rifle made for the german market but with "Charles Lancaster, 7 Burry Street St.Jamess, London England For 256 Mauser Cartridge" on the barrel
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4770596
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      #242873 - 22/02/14 05:49 AM

from the upcoming Springer's /Vienna auction

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/?link=market&filterArticles=1&filter_sale_type=4



John Rigby & Co - London‚ bolt action‚ Mauser 98
calibre: .375 H&H Mag., serial number: 3059, year of proof: 1983, barrel length: 23.5 inch, 4.00 kg / 8.82 lbs, 3/4 flag safety, single set trigger, oil finished stock, fore-end with ebony tip, Silver's rubber recoil pad, stock length: 14.2 inch, pistol grip, sights: express sight with additional folding leaves, Kahles Helia 6S2, German #4A, German claw mounts, Technical condition: 3

Mauser Oberndorf sporter action with long cocking piece and pear-shaped bolt handle, original Rigby patent peep sight mounted on cocking piece, maker's name engraved on barrel with the 72 St. James's Street address (until 1908), trigger guard engraved with Rigby serial No. 3059 of 1908, bolt handle struck with serial No. 4624 of 1920, apparently type A Mauser subsequently altered on the continent for the .375 H&H Mag.












repeating rifle‚ John Rigby & Co - London‚ bolt action‚ Mauser 98
calibre: .275 Rigby, serial number: 6758, year of proof: 1989, barrel length: 24.4 inch, 3.80 kg / 8.38 lbs, three stage safety, single set trigger, English scroll, oiled burr-walnut stock, Silver's rubber recoil pad, stock length: 14.8 inch, pistol grip, sights: express sight with additional folding leaves, Kahles Helia C 2.5-10x50, German #7A, Rigby side mounts, Technical condition: 3

Gold inlaid maker's name on barrel, sights and sling swivel on barrel bands, hinged sight hood, steel pistol grip cap with trap holding a spare bead, engraved with gold Ribgy initials, colour-hardened, engraved mounts, hinged magazine floorplate with release in trigger guard, gold stock oval initialised "RW", in original canvas gunslip, original Rigby sling, recoil pad in need of repair.










epeating rifle‚ Auguste Francotte - Liege‚ bolt action‚ Mauser 98
calibre: .458 Win. Mag., serial number: 21011, year of proof: moderner belgischer Beschuss, barrel length: 25.6 inch, 4.30 kg / 9.48 lbs, flag safety, adjusted direct trigger, oil finished stock, fore-end with buffalo horn tip, rubber recoil pad, stock length: 13.6 inch, pistol grip, sights: express sights with additional folding leaf, Technical condition: 3

Sights and sling swivel on barrel bands, and springs, bent bolt handle, elongated top tang, scroll-engraved hinged magazine floorplate with release in elongated trigger guard, steel pistol grip cap with hinged trap containing a spare bead.











repeating rifle‚ Dumoulin - Herstal‚ Mauser Magnum Double Square Bridge‚ Imperial Magnum
calibre: .505 Gibbs, serial number: 1607, year of proof: moderner belgischer Beschuss, barrel length: 25.6 inch, 4.50 kg / 9.92 lbs, three stage safety, adjusted direct trigger, oil finished stock, fore-end with ebony tip, rubber recoil pad, stock length: 13.4 inch, pistol grip, sights: express sights, Technical condition: 3

Sights and sling swivel on barrel bands, hinged night bead, circumpolished bolt, follower and springs, pestle-shaped bolt handle, hinged magazine floorplate with release in elongated trigger guard, double crossbolts, steel pistol grip cap.













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #243176 - 01/03/14 05:29 PM

a very nice Schüler rifle in 7x64 Brennecke with an interesting long stock, maybe to copy the "African Model"

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4800859

































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      #243528 - 08/03/14 10:34 PM

an interesting O.Geyger/Berlin(strong Suhl smell) mauser in 8x57IS by FeineJagdwaffen Nobert Wenniger
what can I say he had allways the best
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4848186






























thats again an evidense it was not the damned war which led into the devolution of the real and only good taste
a simple and nice 8x57IS probably build by an 98K action in 1957
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4844933
a model "Waidmannsfreund" made in Kreiensen make my think on the old firm Burgsmüller.
http://www.burgsmueller.de/en/About-us__3/ they dont make guns anymore
I would not wonder when "Waidmannsfreund" was an old, maybe pre WW 1, Burgsmüller trademark.





















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #243551 - 09/03/14 12:26 PM

the 1957 proofed 8x57 JS sporter has the double set trigger mechanism installed into a military 98k first version WW2 stamped triggger guard (2nd version had no locking screw slot), not the thing you would normally expect on any one-off made rifle !

and that part appears to be mismatched to the serial of the rifle ?

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      #243685 - 12/03/14 07:07 PM

This rifle will be sold in Stockholm Walter Borg´s auction 13.04.2014

http://www.walterborg.se/auktion/V14/bilder/2522_2.jpg



"KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, cylinderrepeter, fabrikat: O.G. Scherell Berlin, modell 98 helstock, kal. 8x57, tillvnr. 23952, piplängd 55cm, halvoktagon pipa, klaffsikte, plundringsbart magasin, snälltryck, nätskuren helstockad kolv med pistolgrepp och kindstöd, hornbakkappa, rembyglar, hakmonterad tidsenligt kikarsikte av fabrikat D.R.G.M. Dr. Walter Gerard Charlottenburg i fyrfots hakmontage, mindre skador i övrigt Gott skick.
Utropspris: 1000 - 2000 SEK"

Rifle, German, bolt action, maker: O.G. Scherell Berlin, mod. 98 whole stock, cal. 8x57, serial number 23952, octagonal to round barrel lenght 55 cm, falling rear sight, magazine with lever opening bottom plate, double set trigger, checkered wooden stock, horn butt plate, sling swivels, periodical scope fabrikat D.R.G.M. Dr. Walter Gerard Charlottenburg with german type hook mounts, some small blemishes but overall in good condition.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #243791 - 14/03/14 10:24 AM

A Rigby Mauser in .275 Rigby aka 7x57 rifle offered for sale on egun: http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=4599625
According to the seller bought in the early 1990s from Rigby, then still London, Paul Roberts era. Receiver ring inscribed : Sighted for Rigby's spezial High Velocity 275 bore cartridge pointed bullet 140 gns . Mounted with a 1960s Hensold/Zeiss West 4x32 Diasta D scope on a German EAW side mount.
Apparently heavily reworked, refinished and recheckered. The bolt handle at least is a replacement IMHO, as it has a round military knob, not the teardrop shape of the advertized "last before WW1" time. The cocking piece is also a replacement, as it is the short military type. asking price: Euro 4400.-, about $ 5940.-

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #243855 - 15/03/14 10:16 PM

BTW, that 8x57IS "Waidmannsfreund", Kreiensen rifle sold for Euro 115.13, about US$ 155.- + s&h.

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      #243875 - 16/03/14 06:38 AM

yes this rifle gone very cheap
I hope it dont fell in the hands of a butcher
the more I look at the pics the more I like it, simple and perfect beauty.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #243978 - 18/03/14 08:22 AM

Gentlemen

That Rigby 375 belonging to my friend has been loaded to Gun Auctions (www.gunauctions.com.au)

375H&H - J. Rigby Auction Sale

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #245145 - 06/04/14 09:39 PM

Mauser with interesting history and caliber 11,2 x 72 Schüler:













http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4893203

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #245146 - 06/04/14 09:49 PM

damned, I know this would happen
looks like a good deal, cant say how long I can live without a 11,2x72

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #245148 - 06/04/14 10:06 PM

You absolutely need that rifle, those wild boars are really big and dangerous in yours home district....

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #245261 - 09/04/14 05:16 AM

In Walter Borg´s auction Stockholm in 13.4.2014:
http://www.walterborg.se/auktion/index.html

Mauser, modell 420B, cal. .22 LR


Mauser, modell 410B, cal. .22 LR


Imman Meffert Suhl, modell 88, cal. 8x57


C.R Schilling, modell 88, cal. 8x57


C.R Schilling- Suhl, modell 88, cal. 8x57


Mauser Oberndorf, modell 98 typ B, cal. 8x57


O.G. Scherell Berlin, modell 98 helstock, cal. 8x57 I (7,7mm)


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      #245576 - 12/04/14 01:29 PM

Stutzen Nr. Nr. 126673 in 8x57IS with a Ajack 4x90 on SEM



in the upcoming Hermann Historica auction
http://www.hermann-historica.de/db2_de/onlinekatalogeneu/schusswaffenneu.html

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #246719 - 30/04/14 11:15 AM

Although not a sporting rifle,
Quite a neat Oberndorf Mauser here:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Mauser-...un_id=100440368

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      #246766 - 01/05/14 05:34 AM

Quote:

Although not a sporting rifle,
Quite a neat Oberndorf Mauser here:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Mauser-...un_id=100440368



I think they are sporting rifles too



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      #246952 - 04/05/14 03:12 PM

will be a nice project and probably sell cheap because the seller describe it as "broken" what is maybe not the case
a Christoph Funk in Suhl 8x60 with Hensoldt Dialythan on claw mount
barrel octagonal in round
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      #247836 - 24/05/14 10:04 PM

Sale A0614 Lot 1122



HENRI DUMOULIN & FILS
A LITTLE USED .505 GIBBS 'IMPERIAL MAGNUM' BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 15022,
22 7/8in. heavy nitro barrel engraved in script 'HENRI DUMOULIN & FILS. HERSTAL. BELGIUM. CALIBER .505 GIBBS.', matt sight rib with open sights, ramp-mounted bead fore-sight, receiver engraved 'Imperial Magnum', three position safety with gold-inlaid 'SAFE' detail, recoil blocks, hinged floorplate with push button release, well-figured tiger stripe pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, steel pistolgrip-cap (with trap), sling eyes, 14 3/8in. pull including 1in. rubber recoil pad

Please click HERE to view Terms & Conditions.

Estimate £4,000-6,000
http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...6&saletype=

Sale A0614 Lot 1123



'IN MEMORIAM H. RAUCH'
A FINE, VIRTUALLY UNUSED 8X57IS MAUSER ACTION TAKE-DOWN BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 1260,
22 1/4in. nitro reproved barrel gold-inlaid 'CAL. 8X57IS NR.1260', block-mounted folding leaf sights with gold-inlaid sight lines, finely-engraved ramp-mounted gold bead fore-sight, the receiver (with thumb cutout) mounted with a Zeiss Victory HT2.5-10x50 telescopic sight in quickly-detachable mounts, fine bordering acanthus scroll engraving, screw heads finely engraved with floral designs, the bolt handle with fine chequered oval panels and central gold-highlighted flower head, gold-inlaid 'F' detail, floral engraved recoil block, hinged straddle floorplate with push button release, further fine acanthus scroll engraving and gold-inlaid 'IN MEMORIAM H. RAUCH', the receiver, bolt and furniture retaining virtually full colour-hardened finish, highly-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, engraved and colour-hardened steel pistolgrip-cap, sling eyes, horn finial, 14 3/8in. pull including partially ribbed, colour-hardened steel buttplate

Please click HERE to view Terms & Conditions.

Estimate £6,000-8,000
http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...8&saletype=

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #248281 - 01/06/14 10:52 PM

because we had it four weeks ago here is another Whitworth/Interarms express rifle in .375 H&H for sale. http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=245999&an=0&page=0#Post245999



http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4889146&PHPSESSID=4266a76c04feae66f82f219b59a423c0

























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #248757 - 10/06/14 08:58 AM

Quote:

Quote:

question is what is was before
9,3x64 dont fit in the magazin when it was in the 8x57 class before.


CIP max cartridge oal is 85.6 mm for the 9.3x64. Jon Speed, Mauser OOSR, gives the factory magazine dimensions of commercial Oberndorf sporting rifles. 8x60, 9x57, 10.75x68 = 84mm oal. 9.3x62 = 85mm. .30-06, 7x64, 8x64 = 88mm (opened up to the front), .318, .333J, 9.3x64 = 92mm (opened up front and rear). IMHO a 9.3x64 with the bullet seated to 85.6mm CIP oal will quite well through an 88mm magazine. Even an 84mm box can be filed ot front and rear to take the 9.3x64. Of course, such a magzine will take only three of the fatter cartridges. Post WW2 many standard length ex-military 98 actions and magazines were opened up to take even the .375 H&H. Even the FN/Browning so-called "Magnum" action is merely an opened up standard length one. Mauser themselves used Magnum length actions with a 95mm mag for such numbers.
BTW that 9.4x64 rifle sold for EURO 514.99, about $ 670.-. Here are some auction photos:



IMHO the design is influenced by Art Alphin's A-Square "Hannibal" rifles of years gone by.





The above photos are the "BEFORE". These represent the "AFTER"







Master gunsmith Torsten Retz of Suhl worked his magic on the much neglected rifle and before too long I should have it in my hands.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #248773 - 10/06/14 07:18 PM

Looks better ! By the way, what happens to the old magazine and stock ?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #248778 - 10/06/14 09:07 PM

Quote:

By the way, what happens to the old magazine and stock ?



I still have them. I may find a use for the bottom metal and triggers, but the stock is available.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #249060 - 15/06/14 10:23 PM

became a nice mauser now
do you need the stock for the upcoming heating period igorrock?


a 9x57 , serial number 92761 made in 1925






























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #249064 - 15/06/14 11:04 PM

Yes, very nice Mauser indeed ! Magazine bottom plate looks interesting, have never seen such a step with lever.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #249072 - 16/06/14 01:51 AM

Quote:

Magazine bottom plate looks interesting, have never seen such a step with lever.


All Mauser, Oberndorf, factory lever release floorplates have this "step". It limits lever travel.

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      #249074 - 16/06/14 02:57 AM

Ok, haven´t just noticed it before.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #249126 - 17/06/14 05:38 AM

First time I see scope mount being dove-tailed into the barrel rib!!

Nice rifle though. There is a re-newed interest in the 9x57 suddenly here in SA

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      #249240 - 19/06/14 09:44 PM

Schilling /Suhl 8x57I with a Fuess/Berlin Steglitz Helios 5a 5x scope

http://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/ind...&Itemid=111



















































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #249242 - 20/06/14 12:26 AM

This is quite similar but seems that it has SAKO -standart scope mounts:

9,3x57 Julius Hessmer/Hoflieferant Berlin











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      #249667 - 29/06/14 03:32 AM

I would like to own this, but.....













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #250069 - 06/07/14 09:22 PM

I recently placed my guild Mauser up for auction on Gunbroker ------------ GeezerD

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=426341476

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #250323 - 12/07/14 07:58 AM

I find this auction a little suspicious. The seller has a history of selling starter pistols and other similar merchandise all for under 50.00 Euros, then all of a sudden he has this rifle, and doesn't even know how to describe it.

Now there are only two parties bidding, and one of them has a history of only a total of two purchases on eGun. It reminds me of the shenanigans which went on with my 9.3X64 before I finally struck a deal with the seller outside the auction. He had run the price up with a stooge three times before he finally agreed to sell at a reasonable price.

Its certainly a beauty of a rifle, if it's for real.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #251418 - 01/08/14 11:33 PM

Sauer&Sohn/Suhl in 9x57
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5024820










"Kal. Mod. 88 9mm" thats maybe a little bit confusing for the beginner who may think the Mod. 98 sporting rifle is named as Mod. 88



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #251475 - 03/08/14 08:11 AM

Three Model 1922 Newton Mauser rifles were auctioned off at the same auction today, the most expensive going for $1500, a steal in my opinion, considering that there were only 100 of them originally in existance. Here is the listing for the most expensive one.

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/newton-model-1922-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-639-c-f3a9d17662

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #251489 - 03/08/14 11:56 AM

Bill: Another interesting rifle in the Amoskeag auction was lot #220, a very early factory Kurz action 8x51 Mauser built in 1902. This is one of the earliest one's I've seen offered for sale. I stopped by to personally inspect lot #54, the Fred Adolph Kurz Mauser described as a 25 Adolph Express. Unfortunately, it was much modified by some Bubba and the value was destroyed. The present caliber is anyone's guess but it's certainly NOT a 25 Adolph Express.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #251491 - 03/08/14 12:31 PM

Don,

Did you look at lot # 51, the custom kurz Mauser in .250 Sav., by any chance?

How did it look?

The description said it is a "fairly well-executed rifle", or something like that.

Thanks

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      #251492 - 03/08/14 12:39 PM

redoak: Sorry, Item 51 was not on my check list of rifles to inspect.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #251505 - 03/08/14 09:19 PM

redoak,,,my friend malcolm macgregor built that rifle ..i hung with him at the auction yesterday hes from new hampshire and an appraiser for julias auctioneers he does pretty good work ,,hes also been dealing in mauser type rifles since before i met him over 30 years ago ,,he paid 7500$ for the 35 rem, squarebridge griffin that was there ,,the adolph kurz that don mentions sold for 3750$,,im pretty sure lot #220 sold for 6500$ ,,,,,,there are some real nice rifles coming up in the next amoskeag auction ,,a lot of mike petrovs stuff.....paul

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: pjaln]
      #251513 - 04/08/14 12:38 AM

Interesting. I made an absentee bid of 7.5k for the Griffin .35 Rem 2 or 3 weeks ago. I followed the auction online and it showed a hammer price of 6.5k when the lot came up so was feeling pretty good. I later rechecked and it showed a hammer price of 7.5k. I guess I was caught by the 'tie goes to the floor' rule. I should have been more aggressive or bid by phone. Those rifles don't often come to market ... and .... I wanted one of Stretch Kennedy's guns.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #251515 - 04/08/14 02:04 AM

mckinney did u go there and handle the rifle at preview ?...paul

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: pjaln]
      #251516 - 04/08/14 02:26 AM

Paul - no, I'm out of the country so was just going based on the photos and description.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #251517 - 04/08/14 02:50 AM

mckinney ,i think my friend would of went up to 9k on that griffin ,it was that nice ,,plus it was a single square bridge which i dont think was in the description ,,i handles it myself ,it was flawless and 100% original so much that the grain of the stock was slightly raised ,never any oil rubbed on it ,,,not to worry but the next auction coming up will have some nice guns in it ....paul

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: pjaln]
      #251525 - 04/08/14 06:03 AM

I have a .35 Rem griffin on a kurz SSB that I picked up 10 years ago in the Emil McConnell sale. It has a mannlicher style stock, totally different look from the Kennedy rifle. Would have been nice to have the pair. (greed knows no bounds:))

Speaking of Michael Petrov, I wonder what will happen to his Griffin database? Hopefully it goes to Bob Beech at Griffin for safekeeping. Michael shared photos of some of his rifles with me over the years as he did with many people. The .400 Whelen griffin Springfield is sweet and he had a .22 Lovell that also looked good. I'll feel strange bidding on his rifles but I suppose he would have wanted us to have them.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #251526 - 04/08/14 06:32 AM

I once told Michael that I had no intention of leaving my guns to the NRA and he agreed, saying that the NRA did not even know what they had and would often turn to him for answers to questions about items in their possession. He said that he wanted his guns sold so that others could get as much enjoyment from them as he had.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: pjaln]
      #251527 - 04/08/14 07:18 AM

Paul,

Do you know what Malcolm's kurz .250 Sav. sold for (lot 51)?

It sure looked nice in the photos.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: redoak]
      #251534 - 04/08/14 01:04 PM

redoak,,i think 3750 i can find out in the morning ,,btw the tauscher oberndorf was perfect and absolutley mint and sold for 2250 ,,i went to 1900 and passed on it only because im really not that hot for this anymore,,paul

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: pjaln]
      #251537 - 04/08/14 04:42 PM

Invaluable.com shows lot 51 at $3250, but may not be correct.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #251544 - 05/08/14 12:35 AM

Thanks.

Surprised it went that low...

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: redoak]
      #251572 - 05/08/14 01:20 PM

im pretty sure that is correct ,at 15 1/4 inch pull the gun was not for everybody....paul

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: pjaln]
      #252254 - 16/08/14 11:23 PM

These will be for sale in Walter Borg next auction:

http://www.walterborg.se/walterborg-vapenauktion.php#
http://www.walterborg.se/auktion/index.html

Mauser, mod 420 B, cal. .22 Lr



Mauser, mod 98 B, cal. 10,75x73 (404 Jeffery), converted from 10,75x68.



CECO mod 98, kal. 9x57



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #252283 - 17/08/14 08:07 PM

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Mauser, mod 98 B, cal. 10,75x73 (404 Jeffery), converted from 10,75x68.








A monstrous act!

But good looking rifle.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #254588 - 04/10/14 02:40 PM

a Manufrance Rival in 10,75x68
looks very good for 950 euro
http://www.naturabuy.fr/carabine-verrou-Rival--item-2124724.html



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #254696 - 06/10/14 01:20 PM

Mauser 10.75x68. Might be a good project for one of you Aussie boys. Only $550

http://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/26149/mauser.html

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: stug]
      #254987 - 10/10/14 11:38 PM

there is no great demand for M 98 shotguns but this Immmanuel Meffert/Suhl 16 ga Remo gun looks very interesting
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5124367



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #254994 - 11/10/14 12:39 AM

Lancaster, thank you for posting the pics. of the Remo. I have a modest collection of Mauser shotguns that started many years ago when father bought me a Geha. I now have the original Geha and a Remo-Popular take down, an HH, a Remo, a DW?. Still looking for one in 20 gau.. Interesting firearm - every Mauser "nut" should have at least one. --- John

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: John303]
      #255000 - 11/10/14 09:26 AM

Gentlemen - what would you make of this description of a rifle to be offered at auction here (in NZ), is it an 8x57 improperly described or does the 8.85 mean something else (like the land diameter for 9 mm for instance)??

"8.85H Calibre Mauser Bolt Action Sporting Rifle.
24 5/8" 4-stage round barrel. Ramped foresight.
Open V rear sight with 2 flip up leafs. Marked
"200" and "300". Bore good. German proofs.
Receiver wall marked "Waffenfabrik Mauser-
Oberndorf A/N". Metalwork with approximately
90% finish, thinning on magazine plate and trigger
guard. Double triggers. Very good walnut stock
with a lipped forend and a cheek piece. Chequered
at arc pistol grip. Rubber butt pad. Sling swivels. 2
screws on back of receiver probably for a scope
mount. Overall length 44½". S/N 76981."

Sorry I can't do a picture . . .

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #255009 - 11/10/14 03:04 PM

Quote:

there is no great demand for M 98 shotguns but this Immmanuel Meffert/Suhl 16 ga Remo gun looks very interesting






Are these actions built specifically for use as shotgun actions or is the left wall built up somehow for shotgun use?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #255025 - 12/10/14 01:07 AM

Huvius; I am not absolutely certain but I don't think any actions were made specifically for shotgun usage, that "shield" is most likely "soldered" on. This was only done on the Remo all the others were screwed on with two screws. That thingy under the ejector is part of the shell retaining / release system again this method is only on the Remo. The "mushroom" on the front of the bolt is pinned vs held by the extractor on the others.

The stock on the one in your pic. is not original but a modified military - well done though. The Remo had a nice rifle type stock side panels, cheek piece and all. All the rest had cut down military stocks no embellishments.

A write-up on these is in "Bolt Action Rifles by F. de Haas" another on the Gunboards site. In Franks book he alludes to the fact the 98 Remos (not to be confused with the Remo-popular which is based on the Mauser 71) are rather scarce likely due to cost. The Remo all in all is more refined and complex when compared to say a Geha etc.

I have pics. of mine and can Email to you / anyone willing to post. FWIW --- John

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #255074 - 13/10/14 06:50 AM

Tentman, I saw that one too, I think it might be a 9x57.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: stug]
      #255847 - 28/10/14 05:12 AM

Model 45A in 22 lr








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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256000 - 30/10/14 06:23 AM

charming Eduard Kettner/Cöln und Suhl pre war mauser in 8x57I
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5141389
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original Oberndorf Mauser Stutzen in 8x57 IS, 50 cm long barrel
number 126317, one of the last made in 1944/45
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5162466











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256017 - 30/10/14 08:26 AM

Not in auction but for sale in Sweden. IMO very nice rifle in good caliber:

http://www.blocket.se/varmland/G_L_Rasch_56950474.htm?ca=3&w=3







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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #256024 - 30/10/14 10:21 AM

The Eduard Kettner rifle is obviously built pre-WW1 on a Mauser, Oberndorf commercial action.
The Mauser S Stutzen/carbine was completed by Walter Röll post-1945, as shown by the Serial number.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #256085 - 31/10/14 03:42 AM

The S type has a military action bolt :-(

I am so desperately looking for an S type and a kurz :-(

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #256087 - 31/10/14 04:12 AM

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The S type has a military action bolt(


So have many Mauser sporters from late WW2 production, see Jon Speed: Mauser - OOSR, page 293. But this rifle was built by the former Mauser master gunsmith Walter Roell post-WW2, evidenced by the Serial number and the lack of eagle/N + staghorn proofmarks on the Receiver ring. Roell was given the left-over Mauser commercial parts by the French to make "Mauser" sporters for allied officers.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #256093 - 31/10/14 05:53 AM

@ kunduae
I think you are not right.
take a look at page 457 of the Jon Speed Mauser book.
The S- Stutzen is made at the end at 1944 and is not an "occupation" Mauser by Walter Röll.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Abel1]
      #256095 - 31/10/14 06:57 AM

Welcome aboard,

But it is a safe bet , that The Type S is a Röll Mauser. As Kuduae stated above it lacks the staghorn proof mark on the receiver.

The number -if you follow J.Speeds book - also will identify it as an "occupation" Mauser.

An added sign ( at least to my personal experience) is the reddish extractor you will find on nearly all Röll Mauser´s.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256145 - 01/11/14 12:01 AM

"charming Eduard Kettner/Cöln und Suhl pre war mauser in 8x57I
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5141389
will end probably cheap"

I see one of our own is the current highest bidder

"Highest bidder: rigbymauser"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #256149 - 01/11/14 12:52 AM

Quote:

"charming Eduard Kettner/Cöln und Suhl pre war mauser in 8x57I
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5141389
will end probably cheap"

I see one of our own is the current highest bidder

"Highest bidder: rigbymauser"



Oh man....Gee Thanks...I didn´t see that one.

Thanks for sharing

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: rigbymauser]
      #256464 - 09/11/14 05:30 PM

Holland&Holland Take-Down .240 Apex,

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5181172#img













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256469 - 09/11/14 08:42 PM

Ooh thats nice.... A factory scoped one would probably be more preferable..but will be keeping an eye on the above and possibly throwing a bid

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #256471 - 09/11/14 08:48 PM

Messrs Holland & Holland will be glad to make you a factory scope

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256476 - 09/11/14 10:46 PM

Oh it's already drilled and tapped, how did i not notice! Ignore previous comment of mine.

Lancaster, you sure do find a lot of amazing stuff.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #256652 - 13/11/14 06:57 AM

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5173257

A nearby numbered item as to be seen here

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post227747

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #256718 - 14/11/14 01:40 PM

Geniune 505 Gibbs at Rock Island

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1377





And a Westley 425 takedown at the same auction.

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1378






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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #256720 - 14/11/14 02:23 PM

Quote:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5173257

A nearby numbered item as to be seen here

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post227747

Someone may help to post the pictures.












1906 Mauser/Oberndorf, proof U + B /crown Kal. 8 x 57
new barrel by K.Barthelmes eagle/ N proof + 741, heart + fir tree
stamp on the stock showing the rifle was registered in Ossidinge/Kamerun as no. 941.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #256730 - 14/11/14 03:16 PM

Quote:

Geniune 505 Gibbs at Rock Island

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1377





And a Westley 425 takedown at the same auction.

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1378








The scope on the 505 kind of ruins it for me.
That said, I don't know how useful the prismatic scope on the 425 would be. Super nice rifle otherwise though and I have a fondness of the 425WR.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #256811 - 16/11/14 04:16 AM

Westley Richards Takedown hunting rifle, calibre 318 Accelerated Express, serial no. LT40116, barrel length 64 cm, total length 120 cm, Mauser 98 lock with 3 position safety, interior magazine with base plate for four cartridges. In good mechanical condition with age-related traces of wear, marks, front and rear sight. Original case included.
http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/westle...celer/i3625810/





























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #256836 - 16/11/14 05:03 PM

Wonderful rifle, but to me It doesn't look like that .318 Westley takedown is assembled correctly in the photos. The tang needs to go down farther, and be underneath the portion that is attached to the rear guard screw.

That would put it down where it needs to be, and also lower the trigger down farther into the guard.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: redoak]
      #256859 - 17/11/14 02:12 AM

You are correct.
They did not hook the rear of the action under the keeper in the stock.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #256910 - 17/11/14 04:33 PM

I hate it when they sand the stock down soo much that they round the edges.... This one 's bolt stop sticks out by nearly 2 mm!and the srew nearly sticks out.

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      #257072 - 23/11/14 12:23 AM

Emil Kerner 8x57IS with Zeiss Zielvier on claw mount















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #257331 - 29/11/14 04:53 AM

allready sold for 6100 SEK a B Model SN 106770
ex 10,75x68 rechambered to 404
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      #257491 - 04/12/14 05:58 AM

Unique Christoph Funk/K. Eversull Over and Under Dual Caliber Bolt Action Mauser Sporting Rifle with Zeiss Scope










roduced at an unknown date, this rifle is effectively a pair of barreled receivers sharing space in a single stock, creating a unique double bolt action over and under weapon. The core of the rifle is a Mauser 98k-style receiver upgraded by the firm of Christoph Funk of Suhl, which has passed through proof houses in Germany and London, with a ramp blade front and dual-leaf rear sights on the Krupp steel barrel, a band of light engraving at the breech, a Zeiss scope installed on a double claw mount, elongated and turned bolt handle, conventional Mauser-style internal magazine and a single set trigger. Riding beneath the 7x57 barrel is a single shot 22 caliber rifle fed via a rotating and tilting breech assembly, German proofed, marked "K.EVERSULL" and set into the forearm with a single trigger installed behind the 7x57 trigger and a cocking mechanism on the top left of the wrist. The combination is at once mechanically novel while also featuring a barrel profile and functionality reminiscent of a traditional German multi-caliber hunting arm; such arms, such as the more famous drilling and vierling breechloaders, developed as a result of overlapping seasons of game. This combination would give the hunter enough firepower to deal with stag or boar while also having a way to dispose of smaller animals without the blast, recoil, or expense of using an overpowered round. Fitted with a fine checkered walnut stock with sling swivels, a horn grip cap, and a checkered horn buttplate extension. Included with the rifle is a partial replacement breech assembly, which also bears German proofs.
http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/63/lid/1384

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      #257662 - 09/12/14 03:21 PM

the Funk double rifle on video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KAtx-Zv9jg

and here another interesting link showing this Funk double barrel

http://www.korsholm.dk/media/wysiwyg/PDF/Funk-Suhl.pdf

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      #258181 - 23/12/14 02:10 PM

Schilling/Suhl in 8x57I, Helios 5a scope by Rudolf Fuess/Berlin-Steglitz on claw mount
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      #258847 - 09/01/15 05:46 PM

Carl Lewerenz Stargard, Pommern 8x57I but probably made in Suhl
SN 32706 what the seller date with Speeds book in 1909/10
post war Hubertus 4x36 scope in the old claw mount http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5255505











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      #259383 - 24/01/15 12:42 AM

Mauser in 8x57I SN 114917 Single Square Bridge
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      #260245 - 10/02/15 07:07 PM

a 9x57, SN 48615 made in 1911
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      #260571 - 16/02/15 05:52 PM

Brennecke/Berlin 9,3x64, FN action without thump hole, Zeiss 6x42 on claw mount
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5330489









again a nice mauser by norbert wenniger
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5306189

8x60 african model SN 103768 (1930) single square bridge
new made stock, the original stock is also in the auction



































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      #261344 - 28/02/15 09:08 AM

*EXCEPTIONALLY FINE ORIGINAL CONDITION JOHN RIGBY MAGNUM SQUARE BRIDGE MAUSER RIFLE.

SN 100952. (1937) Cal. .350 Magnum. 24″ Tapered round bbl with large boss at breech end is fitted with sleeved-on rear sight base holding two folding leaf express sight, banded-on sling eye, and sleeved-on front ramp with white bead. Top of bbl is engraved in Olde English script “John Rigby & Co. 43 Sackville St. London.” Square bridge magnum Mauser action is engraved “.350 MAGNUM” and “RIGBY MAUSER” around receiver ring, left side of which is stamped with Rigby SN and Mauser SN. Bolt with classic pear shaped handle has flag safety, gold inlaid “SAFE”. Cocking piece is fitted with Rigby’s special patented peep sight. Sear has been V’d out and cocking piece fitted to better center this sight. Single stage trigger is temper blued. Drop box bottom metal has hinged straddle floorplate held in place by button in trigger guard bow. Rear portion of floorplate is engraved “A. F. S. C”. Rigby number is stamped in trigger guard bow. Relatively plain European walnut steel trap capped pistol grip buttstock (spare front sight in trap) measures 15″ over serrated steel buttplate with trap. Trap contains pull through cleaning kit. Stock features classic Rigby styling with flat top point pattern checkering with mullered borders, deeply chamfered ejection port, short forend without contrasting tip, and a sling eye on toe line. Drop at heel: approx 3-1/8″, drop at comb: approx 1-3/4″. Weight: 8 lbs 12 oz. LOP: 15″. PROVENANCE: Rigby historian confirms Rigby # 5626 (Mauser 100952)as a “Sporting Magnum” for A.F.B. Clarke, 22 June 1937, .350m with 24″ bbl and 15 1/16″ LOP and engraved floorplate. Richard Schreiber Collection. CONDITION: Excellent. Metal parts retain 70 – 80% of their orig thin factory blue, most loss on floorplate which is lightly freckled and cleaned. Stock retains nearly all of its orig rubbed oil finish, grain open and slightly raised, with a number of light marks, and a few a bit heavier. Checkering is very lightly worn. There is a slight compression and crack in wood at rear of action tang. Bore is exceptional, bright, sharp, and shiny throughout. Action is smooth. Possibly one of the finest examples of this classic rifle extant. Most have been converted to .375 H&H. 4-45901 (6,000-9,000) – Lot 2489

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      #261806 - 06/03/15 03:23 PM

O.Geyger/Berlin in 8x57IS http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4848186



























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      #262245 - 14/03/15 10:28 PM

8x57 IS(????, I would think you better await a I barrel) by Fr.Jac. Bartels.Hof-Waffenfarbrikant Wiesbaden
Nitro proof after 1911, made with a original Mauser action
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5343735













original Mauser 9,3x62 SN 112497
double square bridge, http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5361611#img



nice Zbrojovka Brno/Waffenwerke Brünn, Model Z in 7x57 made in 1941
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      #262949 - 31/03/15 02:16 AM

8x60S SN 111247, made in 1932
Single Square Bridge, octagonal to round barrel, Zeiss Diatal 6x42 on claw mount
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5355142&PHPSESSID=8b0682a1ef8a66d1cae912dde50ede51













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      #263041 - 02/04/15 03:09 PM

Mauser 71 with unknown chamber, could be anything between 11,15x37R and 11,15x60R
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      #263826 - 19/04/15 02:19 PM

Manufrance Rival rifle in 10,75x68, post war 1950s made with a FN action
iron sights and swivel rings looking like old stock for the Mas 36 sporter
http://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-RIVAL-Manufrance-cal-10-75x68-Mauser-item-2545314.html

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      #263857 - 20/04/15 02:40 AM

Kurz Mauser SN 109962 octagonal to round barrel
6,5x54 Mauser http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5422920
with a Zeiss Zielvier SN 39548











another stutzen probably build with a military action in 6,5x54 Kurz
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      #265071 - 17/05/15 03:17 PM

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5443285#img
8x57IS SN 126220













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #265133 - 18/05/15 02:13 AM

@ Lancaster: This old Stutzen shall be produced in 1944, one of the last ones. Is it worth to be keen for it or what do you think ? I mean, are there many occasions for such a Mauser Stutzen ? Still annother 12 days to bid and we are at about e 800,-- meanwhile.

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      #265163 - 18/05/15 03:15 PM

I fear there will be some air above the 800 euro

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #265164 - 18/05/15 03:33 PM

This one here looks interesting http://www.gunsinternational.com/JP-Sauer-Sohn-Suhl-Mauser-Sporting-Rifle.cfm?gun_id=100532597

Seems a steal for $1000.

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      #265181 - 19/05/15 03:56 AM

Guns International #: 100532597
Lister Inventory #:
JP Sauer & Sohn Suhl Mauser Sporting Rifle
Description:

Very interesting Bespoke JP Sauer & Sohn Suhl Pre-War Mauser Sporting Rifle in 8X60 Caliber. Completely originial and untouched. Features include - full length, raised matted rib on the barrel with integral front sight ramp, island front barrel swivel, 1 fixed and 1 folding rear sight, metal butt plate, rounded Rigby style pistol grip with correct hand-cut checkering pattern, slim forend with schable style tip. Standard 98 Mauser fip-over style top bolt safety on shroud. EXTREMELY RARE Danzig Mauser detachable scope bases with caming arm. Not often found on other German master builder rifles of the era which makes this rifle very unquie and highly collectible. Bore is crisp, and lands and grooves are clean and clear. Metal finsih including bluing is 99%+, finish on wood is 85% with a light oil covering some very old light handling marks, no cracks, splits or any indications of distress on the stock. A great example of old world craftsmanship. NO DEAD BEAT BUYERS PLEASE! Any Offer to purchase via GI is considered a binding sale contract.

Price: $1000























Gewehrfabrik Danzig sporter, new barrel by Schultz&Larsen for the 6,5x55 in 1980
Gerard scope on claw mount
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      #265209 - 19/05/15 05:42 PM

Mauser Type A 10.75 x 68 SN 100308
Description:
Mauser Oberndorf commercial sporting rifle in 10.75 x 68 built in 1928 with 24" barrel with 1 standing / 4 folding rear express sights, ramp front sight, and barrel band front sling swivel. Bore is 8.5/10 with light frosting in the grooves. Replacement Canjar trigger. Lever release floorplate. Bottom metal is correct Oberndorf bottom metal but not correct serial number. All metal work exhibits an old rust reblue with very slight pitting at the woodline but not underneath. Stock has had a coat of oil but checkering not recut. Horn grip cap. 14" LOP over 1" pad. 7lb 130z This is an old war horse. It has seen lots of sights, undoubtedly in Africa or India. Damn, I wish this gun could talk!

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Mauser-Type-A-10-75-x-68.cfm?gun_id=100559996























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      #265509 - 25/05/15 01:52 PM

an 8x57IS
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/mauser-98-kal-8x57-is/i3819455/#



















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      #265716 - 30/05/15 08:51 PM

interesting rifle in 9,5x56 MS
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=350_358&products_id=36728







9.5 X 56mm; 75% blue, fair bore, good stock, 28.5'' barrel, Manufactured in Germany circa 1920s. Small ring Mauser KAR98 military action, original blue finish, mounted in a checkered walnut stock with round knob grip and cheekrest. Crown/N proofs. Octagon barrel with matted ramp fixed front sight. A tangent rear sight base is mounted in the barrel, missing the leaf, pin and sping assembly. Also missing the lower sling swivel. Bolt is proper with crown/N proofs, non-matching serial number. Inlaid in silver over the right side of the barrel "R. MULLER CAPE TOWN" and over the left side "SOLE AGENT FOR SOUTH AFRICA". South African proof marks appear on the right side of the barrel near at the chamber. Quick release button floorplate. Military style two stage trigger. The stock is over all good, there is a crack on the left side at the forend tip and a minor chip and crack behind the receiver tang. Mechanically fine. The bore has strong rifling, showing darkness in the grooves and light pitting throughout. C&R/FFL, s/n 593xx

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      #265972 - 06/06/15 04:23 AM

beautyful Mauser 71/84 hunting rifle in 11,15x50R, J.J Reeb/Bonn in the the barrel
http://www.naturabuy.fr/Mauser-Miniature-71-84-item-2615638.html













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      #265988 - 06/06/15 09:47 AM

The above rifle is one of the most beautiful firearms i have ever seen! It's perfect, to my eyes. Love the look of the tube magazine.

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      #266263 - 11/06/15 05:39 AM

10,75x68 SN 116311 with german and belgian proof
http://www.naturabuy.fr/MAUSER-10-75X68-item-1220783.html

















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10,75x68 , SN 70751
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      #266629 - 18/06/15 05:03 AM

10,75x68 , SN 87911
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100562323













the stock have ´seen better days

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      #266770 - 21/06/15 07:49 PM

a-model 9,3x62 SN 112591 in the next springer's auction
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      #267331 - 03/07/15 06:06 PM

pre war Brenneke/leipzig "Benneke Patent " rifle in 7x64
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      #267865 - 12/07/15 07:59 PM

the post war stock is terrible but the rest is an rare Schmidt&Habermann M 21 in 6,5x57 with " Fritz Merkel , Suhl" on the barrel
Zeiss Zielvier on claw mount


http://www.cdsehrenreich.de/waffen/mg.htm

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      #268100 - 16/07/15 03:15 AM

Tiroler Waffenfabrik Peterlongo R. Marholdt und Söhne Innsbruck, 7x57 with Kahles-Wien Heliavier on claw mount
octagonal to round barrel, in all strong Suhl taste
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5521884













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      #268107 - 16/07/15 08:35 AM

(re-)proofed by the Munich proofhouse BF = 2015. See the new proofmark, in use since November 2014, CIP/N, instead of the familiar federal eagle/N mark. This CIP/N mark may be seen on the new Rigby Mausers too.

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      #269803 - 31/08/15 01:11 AM

very early Schultz&Larsen Mauser in 6,5x55









a collector from Denmark told me its the gun number 91 made in 1945



http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/mauser-k98-riffel-med-otterup-pibe-kal-6-5x55/i3944995/#

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      #270411 - 12/09/15 03:24 PM

Mauser 71 in 11,15x60R





http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5589003

original mauser in 404
SN 94748 , made in 1926 http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5563044


































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      #270421 - 12/09/15 09:41 PM

Quote:

Tiroler Waffenfabrik Peterlongo R. Marholdt und Söhne Innsbruck, 7x57 with Kahles-Wien Heliavier on claw mount
octagonal to round barrel, in all strong Suhl taste
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5521884





Hard to believe that this went for just over 500,-- Euros, despite over 100 bids.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #270878 - 23/09/15 06:24 AM

Joseph Lang & Son. London

Bj. ca. 1927

9,5x57 Mannlich Schönauer (.375 Express)

Joseph Lang & Son 102 New Bond Street London



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      #271267 - 03/10/15 01:51 PM

neat mauser in 9,5x56 MS but thew asking price is unrealistic

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      #271312 - 04/10/15 03:43 PM

7x57, SN 993xx
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=350_358&products_id=41844







another kind of "plezier rifle"
M1896 Mauser Oberndorf factory sporting rifle built for Swedish weapons officer
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=350_358&products_id=9701









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      #271805 - 17/10/15 03:11 PM

8x57IS SN 72774 with Ajack 10x on claw mount
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5631148





post war FN Herstal 10,75x68
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #271819 - 17/10/15 11:39 PM

The FN looks like a bargain at a "Buy It Now" price of 550 Euros. Too bad I'm not in France.

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      #272115 - 25/10/15 04:14 PM

stutzen Greifelt&Co Suhl around 1940 8x57IS SN 39204
http://www.hermann-historica.de/db2_en/onlinekatalogeneu.html
in auction next week



Germania Waffenwerk A.G. Zella-Mehlis 6,5x57
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      #272497 - 01/11/15 03:49 PM

nice scaled down Mauser 71 action for the 8,15x46R
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100617453
"Description:
MAUSER MODEL 1871 HALF STOCKED SINGLE SHOT SPORTER TARGET RIFLE .8.15 X 46Rmm CALIBER( SAME CARTRIDGE AS 32-40 WINCHESTER WHICH CAN BE FIRE FORMED TO RELOAD) 23 1/4"HEAVY OCTAGON BARREL WITH ENGRAVED MUZZLE , EXCELLENT BRIGHT BORE AND ADJUSTIBLE FACTORY TANGENT TARGET REAR SIGHT.EUROPEAN FIGURED WALNUT CHECKERED STOCK WITH BAVARIAN CHEEK PIECE,INTRICATE HORN PISTOL GRIP ,METAL TRIGGER GUARD,SCHNABEL HORN FOREND TIP AND FACTORY METAL BUTT PLATE. STOCK HAS NICE FACTORY VARNISH WITH SOME HANDLING MARKS.97% PLUS ORIGINAL METAL BLUE ON ACTION AND BARREL.ACTION HAS BUTTERKNIFE STYLE BOLT HANDLE.GUN COMES WITH QUICK DETACHABLE CLAW MOUNTS AND KARL KAPS 2.5 POWER X 23 MM PERIOD GERMAN SCOPE WITH FINE CROSS HAIR RETICLE AND CLEAR OPTICS. RARE FINE."

































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this have such a strong Suhl smell you can get it when sniff on the flat screen monitor

O.Geyger&Co. 8mm Mauser http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100526574

"SUPERB O. GEYGER & CO., BERLIN CASE COLORED AND ENGRAVED 8X57 COMMERCIAL MAUSER OBERNDORF SPORTING RIFLE CIRCA 1910-15. Early 4xxx serial range Oberndorf commercial action. 24” octagon/round ribbed barrel with integral claw mounts Rib signed with maker name and address. Fine scroll engraved and case colored receiver, trigger guard, floor plate and mounts. Deluxe checkered walnut cheek rest stock with horn butt plate. Checkered trigger. Sling swivels. Superb 100% original condition with all the original blue and 95% case colors. Stock with all the original finish. Mint bore and working order. Pre WW1 top quality and condition."



















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JEFFERY DELUXE in 333 N. E.- SINGLE SQUARE BRIDGE MAG MAUSER
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100596566

"28040, W. J. Jeffery & Co. Ltd, 9 Golden Square, Regent Street, London W: A Deluxe No. 2 Grade Jeffery Pre-War 333 Rimless Nitro Express on a Single Square Bridge Magnum Mauser Action, Made about 1926, It is with a 24" barrel with an island rear sight with 3 folding rear sights, Band front ramp, Sling eye on the barrel, Un-cut matted single square bridge, The receiver bridge and ring never drilled or tapped, An original Jeffery cocking piece elevator peep sight with 5 distinct elevation settings with a knurled knob, Waffenfabrik Mauser-Oberndorf Single Square Commercial Magnum length action that carries the Mauser #81052, The action was built in 1914, This very rifle is listed on page 439 of Jon Speed's "Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles" as a Magnum action in 333 by Jeffery, Mauser #81055 is also a Jeffery in 404 on a Magnum action; The receiver, magazine box, floorplate, bolt & bolt sleeve all have matching Mauser serial numbers everywhere, Nitro proof at cordite 40 1/2 & 300 max, Belly magazine with a straddle hinged floorplate with a center bow release, Mauser wing safety, As a Deluxe Jeffery it has 85% coverage of very nice floral & scroll No. 2 Grade engraving on the floorplate & trigger guard, The receiver ring with matching engraving, This is a very typical engraving pattern used by Jeffery on their Deluxe rifles, An excellent piece of upgraded wood with excellent color & contrast, A classic Jeffery pre-war stock, Horn grip cap, Horn forend tip, Point pattern checkering, Double crossbolts, 14 5/16" L.O.P. over a checkered steel buttplate with a trapdoor, 8 lbs. 5 oz., All metal except the bolt body has been professionally reblacked a long time ago & now remains at 90-92%, The stock has new finish and now at 95%, The checkering is at 90%, The bore is excellent plus and is a 9.5 out of 10. It is cased in the original full length brass cornered canvas trunk with the correct address trade label. Here is a solid classic Jeffery Magnum Mauser with all the bore condition you could hope to find and it certainly had very good custodians for all these years. /////////////////////////////////// This is all Commercial Mauser with a Magnum action and then the British made a great open sighted game rifle to compliment this great piece of bolt rifle machinery. The Mauser Sporting Rifle and actions number about 127,000 and more than 82,000 were sold prior to WWI with a large percentage going to the British Gun Trade. /////////////////////////////////// Jeffery was already well known at the turn of the century but notice was certainly taken with their impressive line of Double Rifles. They had a large range of cartridges from .280, .333, and 404, 450 #2, 475 #2 and the famous 600 Nitro. Jeffery was at the 13 King Street address until 1914, they moved to 26 Bury Street and then to 9 Golden Square (The address of this piece) in 1921. When Rigby's exclusive contract with Mauser ended in 1912, Jeffery became active buyers of Magnum actions for their very popular 333 & 404 rifles. The Jeffery firm remained in business until 1955, in 1957 Westley Richards purchased the firm and then in 1959 it was merged with Holland & Holland. "











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11.2 x 72 SCHULER- by AUGUST SCHULER for RODDA
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100546049

"#25410, R. B. Rodda & Co. Calcutta: A 11.2 x 72 Schuler Mauser Made by August Schuler in 1928 for the R. B. Rodda Company, 25 1/2" Krupp Stahl barrel that is 1/2 round & 1/2 octagon with a full length integral rib that is machine matted full length, 1 standing & 2 folding rear sights, Sling eye on the barrel, Fold over locking sight protector, Forend tiedown screw, The action and barrel carry the same serial number, The stock is serial numbered in the barrel channel, Double set triggers, Bolt safety, Button release non-hinged floorplate, Sporter stock, Point pattern checkering with a border on the grip only, European style cheekpiece, 14 1/4" LOP over the original Silvers pad, 9 lbs. even, The receiver ring matted with light Germanic border engraving, The floorplate and trigger guard has 5% coverage, The original blue on all metal remains at 75-80%, The stock is original and overall finish is 80%, The inletting inside is very good, The strong news on this piece is the bore and chamber are absolutely like new, It is cased in the original leather cornered canvas full length case with the original trade label and a cleaning rod that I am sure is ebony. The story goes; it arrived on these shores via a Missionary and he used it to control Tigers that were not welcome on his grounds. Not quite but close; this is dreams of tigers and ships and palaces, fine spices and women and silk. This piece remains totally original and laid around a lot more than it was shot as the bore is almost as new. Here is a classic Suhl Mauser from the Golden Era of German gunmaking in a big bore cartridge and a known maker to go with it."













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      #272900 - 09/11/15 12:46 AM

G.G. & CO. AKT-G. KABA in 9,3x57 SN 926 in the next Walterborg auction
Katalognr: 396

GEVÄR, Tyskt, fabrikat: Okänt, cylinderrepeter, modell 98 small ring, kal. 9,3x57, tillvnr. 926, piplängd 58cm, , halvoctagonal pipa med text på spång " G.G. & CO. AKT-G. KABA." laxat sikte med en fällbar klaff, nätskuren kolv med kindstöd, bakelitbakkappa, rembyglar. GOTT SKICK.

Utropspris: 500 - 1000 SEKSlutpris: -
http://www.walterborg.se/auktion/





lots of original mausers


B model in 8x60S SN 104515





Katalognr: 472

KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, fabrikat: Mauser, cylinderrepeter, modell 98 B, kal. 8x60N, tillvnr. 104515, piplängd 60cm, , ställbart sikte från 50-1000 meter, plundringsbart magasin med vred, nätskuren kolv med pistolgrepp och kindstöd, bakkappa av horn, slitna stål och trädetaljer i övrigt Gott skick..

Utropspris: 1000 - 2000 SEKSlutpris: -


B model in 8x60S SN 124930





Katalognr: 473

KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, fabrikat: Mauser, cylinderrepeter, modell 98 B, kal. 8x60 Normal, tillvnr. 124930, piplängd 60cm, , klaffsikte med en fällbar klaff, plundringsbart magasin med öppningsarm, snälltryck, nätskuren kolv med pistolgrepp och kindstöd, bakelitbakkappa, pipring med rembygel. Mycket gott skick..

Utropspris: 2000 - 3000 SEKSlutpris: -




C model in 8x57IS SN 70110






Katalognr: 474

KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, fabrikat: Mauser, cylinderrepeter, modell C "Spitzer Bullet" Sporting Rifle. ( se Jon Speeds bok Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles" sida 111-112, kal. 8x57JS, tillvnr. 70110, piplängd 60cm, , ställbart sikte från 50-1000 meter, snälltryck, nätskuren kolv med pistolgrepp, bakelitbakkappa, rembyglar, vapnet tillverkat 1912 och är i Gott skick..

Utropspris: 6000 - 7000 SEKSlutpris: -

"Army Hunting Rifle" in 8x57I SN 1332







Katalognr: 475

KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, fabrikat: Mauser, cylinderrepeter, modell 98 C "Army Hunting Rifle", kal. 8x57J, tillvnr. 1332, piplängd 60cm, , klaffsikte med en fällbar klaff, nätskuren kolv med pistolgrepp, stålbakkappa, rembyglar, vapnet är i mycket gott originalskick och tillverkad 1906, sällsynt modell (se Jon Speeds bok Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles sid 110-112.).

Utropspris: 6000 - 7000 SEKSlutpris: -


6,5x58 SN 11619

Katalognr: 483

KULGEVÄR, Tyskt, fabrikat: Mauser, cylinderrepeter, modell 98 B, kal. 6,5x58P (Portugisisk), tillvnr. 111619, piplängd 60cm, , åttakantig pipa med spång, ställbart sikte från 50-1000 meter, plundringsbart magasin med vred, nätskuren vacker kolv med pistolgrepp och kindstöd, bakkappa och pistolrosett i horn, rembyglar. Mycket gott skick. OBS! Lådan borrad och gängad för sidomontage. Hålen igenfyllda.

Utropspris: 6000 - 7000 SEKSlutpris: -



and a Gewehrfabrik Danzig 8x57IS SN 1815 for sale in denmark
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/gewehrfabrik-danzig-kaliber-8x57-jagtriffel/i4045993/#


















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      #273246 - 15/11/15 02:48 AM

if anyone is looking for a project:
8x60S SN 125682 http://www.naturabuy.fr/Mecanisme-rare-carabine-MAUSER-square-bridge-item-1667125.html





















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      #273929 - 24/11/15 11:18 PM

I love the Westley Richards .425 maybe because its so rare
http://www.mwreynolds.com/HTML/rifleWestley425bolt.html













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #273931 - 25/11/15 12:04 AM

Now, why did you have to go and post THAT gun?!
Making me regret selling a bit...
Anybody looking for 425 dies and brass? LOL!

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      #273936 - 25/11/15 01:41 AM

They selling your 10.75 DSB mauser aswell?

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      #273942 - 25/11/15 02:57 AM

Yes. And a couple Farquharsons.

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      #276003 - 03/01/16 06:29 AM

A couple interesting Mausers at the next Rock Island auction:

First, a very interesting double square bridge, solid wall. Looks to be a Magnum length action too!
I hope dons comments on this one.

Serial #: 8657 Manufacturer: Mauser
Model: 98 Type: Rifle
Gauge: 8x68 mm Catalog Page: 385
Barrel Length: 26 inch round Finish: blue
Grip: N/A Stock: walnut
Class: Curio & Relic Long Gun
Rating: OE NPRF
Comments: Marked "KARL KORMES LEIPZIG" on top of the barrel, just forward of the rear sight. The caliber designation is on top of the barrel at the breech. Features light engraving on the receiver rings with claw type scope bases. Fitted with double set triggers and a leather sling. Caliber partially mismarked, reads 6x68s.








The TypeS in the middle:

Serial #: 17692 Manufacturer: Mauser
Model: 98 Type: Rifle
Gauge: 7 mm Catalog Page: 296
Barrel Length: 19 1/2 inch round Finish: blue
Grip: N/A Stock: walnut
Class: Curio & Relic Long Gun
Rating: OC
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #276016 - 03/01/16 09:44 AM

Ben: Very good eye. The Karl Kormes is one of the better guild rifles I've seen. It is a DSB ,solid wall magnum length action. I suspect the caliber is 6.5x68s (an older German hunting round) which is a Schuler (Vom Hofe) caliber. I don't know of a 6x68s round. RIA has no clue when it comes to vintage Mauser stuff. A good buy for someone. The Type S in 7x57 is a very early rifle before Mauser called it a Type S. S/N 17692 puts it at 1906. The rifle above that one looks like a Type M in 8x57 built in 1923. All good buys.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #276037 - 04/01/16 03:22 AM

Why 6,5x68 ? Text just says 8x68 which, as you should know, was and still is very common caliber in Germany, developed in the 1930s by August Schüler of the August Schüler Waffenfabrik, Suhl.

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      #276041 - 04/01/16 03:47 AM

9x57 by Schilling in Suhl
http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers.html







Burgsmüller &Söhne in 6,5x57 http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers-2nd-page.html











another suhl made mauser in 7x57 for Gehmann /Konstanz
http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers-4th-page.html










agains Burgsmüller&Söhne 7x57
http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers-2nd-page.html











original in 9,3x62 SN 117557
http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers-2nd-page.html










7x57 by Triebel/Suhl
http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers-2nd-page.html











9x57 by Ziegenhahn/Suhl
http://stiegele.weebly.com/offers-2nd-page.html





















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #276042 - 04/01/16 04:30 AM

Quote:

Why 6,5x68 ? Text just says 8x68 which, as you should know, was and still is very common caliber in Germany, developed in the 1930s by August Schüler of the August Schüler Waffenfabrik, Suhl.


Both the 8x68S and 6.5x68 were developed neither by vom Hofe nor by Schüler, but by RWS, the ammo company, 8x68S in 1939,6.5x68 in 1940.

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      #276052 - 04/01/16 07:11 AM

Thanks for correction, kuduae.

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      #276061 - 04/01/16 10:22 AM

Igorrock: In the RIA item description of the Karl Kormes rifle, it says that the "caliber is partially mismarked, reads 6x68s". This is the reason I suspect it is a 6.5x68s. I hope this clears up my statement.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #276064 - 04/01/16 11:41 AM

Quote:

Igorrock: In the RIA item description of the Karl Kormes rifle, it says that the "caliber is partially mismarked, reads 6x68s". This is the reason I suspect it is a 6.5x68s. I hope this clears up my statement.


The "6" maybe an "8" stamp, applied at an oblique angle.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #276066 - 04/01/16 12:44 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Igorrock: In the RIA item description of the Karl Kormes rifle, it says that the "caliber is partially mismarked, reads 6x68s". This is the reason I suspect it is a 6.5x68s. I hope this clears up my statement.


The "6" maybe an "8" stamp, applied at an oblique angle.




Yeah, my guess is a mis-stamped "8" especially if that is read on the barrel.

Still, what a great rifle to get your hands on!

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      #276138 - 05/01/16 09:20 PM

first time ever I see a Mauser 98 rifle for the 7x61 Sharpe & Hart, of course made by Schultz&Larsen

http://huntershouse.dk/kat408-Rifler/side1963-Schultz-Larsen,Otterup,-Mauser-98.html



two 8x57IS Mauser's by S&L
http://huntershouse.dk/kat408-Rifler/side1970-Schultz-Larsen-M.98.html
http://huntershouse.dk/kat408-Rifler/side623-Schultz-Larsen,-Otterup,-model-98.html







I would say made in the late 1940s to 1950s, basic but inexpensive and fine working guns for every day

this must be one of the rare Gewehrfabrik Erfurt sporter - stemplet “GwF.E”
8x57IS sold by Poulsen/Copenhagen http://huntershouse.dk/kat408-Rifler/side560-P.-Poulsen,-Kj%C3%B8benhavn.html



another german mauser in 8x57is made for Poulsen
http://huntershouse.dk/kat408-Rifler/side11430-P.-Poulsen-Kj%C3%B8benhavn-8x57JS.html









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      #277539 - 04/02/16 05:52 PM

G. L. Rasch, Braunschweig 6,5x57 http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5787847











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #277564 - 05/02/16 04:39 AM

Hello Dear , how are you . I would like the help of friends in the identification of this Mauser rifle that I have , because I have no knowledge of the model , year of manufacture, etc. I do not even know the real gauge of manufacturing . Could anyone help me ?
Grateful.

What confuses me more is the same numbering has two , one in action and another in the pipe. And the fact of the pipe have different external diameters , which could not find anywhere else in my research .

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      #277565 - 05/02/16 04:48 AM

hello

made pics showing all details good as possible, if in need for help send me a pm and I will give you a mail address and post the pics

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #277566 - 05/02/16 04:54 AM

Hello Lancaster, thanks for the help . I am unable to attach the so photos published in my blog , I could access there? Thanks,

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      #277568 - 05/02/16 05:10 AM

original mauser SN 77765, believe this is made before WW 1































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #277574 - 05/02/16 06:08 AM

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original mauser SN 77765, believe this is made before WW 1

According to Jon Speed's book exact year is 1913.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #277575 - 05/02/16 06:17 AM

Geverson, your rifle is a Commercial Mauser, Oberndorf, sporting rifle type B. Accordingt the 77765 serial number it was made in 1913. Later, likely in Brazil, it was rebarreled with a Mauser Military rifle barrel, probably in 7x57, the former Brazilian military cartridge. Over the years Brazil bought many miltary Mauser rifle models in 7x57 to equip it's army and various police forces. The original Mauser stock, action and bottom metal were retained. The Mauser rear sight sleeve was attached to the "new" barrel. The front sight and it's base are not original, as is the crudely fitted rubber recoil pad. The front sling swivel is a replacement too, simply screwed into the foreend.The stepped barrel is typical for most military Mauser rifles, from 1898 on. The steps allowed the military barrels to expand lengthwise from heating up, without altering wood to metal pressure.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #278306 - 22/02/16 06:26 PM

10,75x68 SN 106785
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #278374 - 24/02/16 03:24 AM

A little scrubby but despite that I would like to have this one:

http://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/mauser-riffel-i-kal-22-med-kikkert/i4169599/#















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #278375 - 24/02/16 10:36 AM

Quote:

Geverson, your rifle is a Commercial Mauser, Oberndorf, sporting rifle type B. Accordingt the 77765 serial number it was made in 1913. Later, likely in Brazil, it was rebarreled with a Mauser Military rifle barrel, probably in 7x57, the former Brazilian military cartridge. Over the years Brazil bought many miltary Mauser rifle models in 7x57 to equip it's army and various police forces. The original Mauser stock, action and bottom metal were retained. The Mauser rear sight sleeve was attached to the "new" barrel. The front sight and it's base are not original, as is the crudely fitted rubber recoil pad. The front sling swivel is a replacement too, simply screwed into the foreend.The stepped barrel is typical for most military Mauser rifles, from 1898 on. The steps allowed the military barrels to expand lengthwise from heating up, without altering wood to metal pressure.



I would add that the bolt appears to be a replacement, possibly from a G33/40 Czech Mauser with its hollow bolt knob. A bridge base has been fitted to the original Suhler Einhackmontage (claw mount) bases in the single square bridge and in the receiver ring.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #278401 - 24/02/16 07:44 PM

Quote:

I would add that the bolt appears to be a replacement, possibly from a G33/40 Czech Mauser with its hollow bolt knob.

In my eyes it looks more like flattened and then checkered:



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #278402 - 24/02/16 08:22 PM

the .22 is an interesting one, to bad about the wormholes in the stock but believe you can just filled this and it will stand the recoil of the rimfire fo a long time

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #278410 - 25/02/16 03:57 AM

Here is one that just popped up at Simpsons LTD in Galesburg, Illinois.
7x57 Type B with claw mounts and scope.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=45885

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      #278430 - 25/02/16 07:05 AM














Simpson Ltd

$3,495.00
MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER
Inventory Number - D14661
MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER MAUSER OBERNDORF B SPORTER
7 X 57mm; 95% blue, excellent bore, excellent stock, 23.5'' barrel, Manufactured circa 1930s with blue finish and checkered walnut stock. Possible old professional refinish. 98 military style action. Matching bolt. Crown/B, U and G proofed. Matted ramp fixed front sight with non-original hood installed. Fixed rear sight with two folding leafs. Double claw bases installed on top of the receiver with a Hensoldt Wetzlar Dialytan 4X scope mounted. The scope has a heavy pointer/crossbar reticle with excellent optics. The scope tube may have been refinished. Features double set triggers, lever release hinged floorplate, pistol grip stock with cheekrest and original buttplate. The buttplate has a tiny chip on the edge near the toe. Mechanically fine and clean over all. C&R/FFL, s/n 99378

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #278436 - 25/02/16 07:53 AM

Thanks lancaster.
I posted this using my phone.
Not so great for posting photos!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #278654 - 29/02/16 09:50 PM

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...8&saletype=

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...6&saletype=

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...562&image=1

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/1624-391/

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #278712 - 02/03/16 10:56 PM

Here's one on Gunsinternational, not mine. "MAUSER SPECIAL ORDER RARE OBERNDORF DBL SQ BRIDGE 9.3 X 62 SPORTING RIFLE"

Description:
MAUSER SPECIAL ORDER VERY RARE 1939 OBERNDORF SQUARE BRIDGE WITH SOLID LEFT WALL, 9.3 X 62, SPECIAL ORDER 24" 1/2 OCTAGON, 1/2 ROUND BBL, FULL LENGTH INTERGRAL RIB, FULL LENGTH EXTRACTOR, DBL SET TRIGGERS, SPECIAL ORDER SIDE SAFETY, BEAUTIFUL FIGURED WALNUT, MANNLICHER STOCK WITH SCHNABLE FOREND, LOP 14 5/8 TO ORIGINAL FACTORY BUTTPLATE, 8LBS 14OZ, 1 FX 2 LEAVES, INTERGRAL RAMP FRONT, FACTORY SEE THRU CALW MOUNTS WITH 4X SCOPE, 99% ORIGINAL, PRISTINE BORE!


My question, is that side safety original?
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100670944

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: jgrabow]
      #278714 - 03/03/16 12:39 AM

Quote:

My question, is that side safety original?


Yes, a post-1931 factory option.
But the scope and rings are not. The Kahles 1.5 - 4 x scope is post-WW2, 1960s at best, and the rings are not "Mauser Oberndorf factory".

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: jgrabow]
      #278909 - 07/03/16 02:04 AM

never say never - a Mauser 98 by Heckler&Koch

build by Kupfer in Kassel with a FN action and Heckler&Koch polygonal barrel /308 Win for a special customer of H&K in a time when this barrels were not available on the open market.
http://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/ind...&Itemid=111
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: jgrabow]
      #279202 - 13/03/16 06:28 AM

Model S in 7x64 SN 126398
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5865526
in the book " Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles" by Jon Speed page 457

















































416 Rem by Theo Jung /Lohmar http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5860228
one of ten made with DWM Berlin action









































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: jgrabow]
      #279555 - 19/03/16 03:27 PM

in the next Hermann Historica auction http://www.hermann-historica.de/db2_de/onlinekatalogeneu.html
Burgsmüller Stutzen 6,5x57 SN 648 made in Suhl with civil Mauser action



the same but in 7x57 SN 102



8x57,I believe 8x57I because "Mod.88.8"
"Hillfritz, Berlin"



notice the hooks on the stock

original 7x57 SN 125754



original 9x57 SN 15134



Schultz&Larsen 6,5x57 SN 4314













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #279561 - 19/03/16 10:09 PM

Quote:


original 7x57 SN 125754





This Stutzen appears to be a cross between a Typ S and a Typ M. It has the secondary "schnabel" of the Typ S on the fore end, but the flat bolt handle and metal fore end cap of the Typ M. Probably just an example of "The customer is always right."

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #279562 - 19/03/16 11:01 PM

the barrel looks also shorter

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #279563 - 19/03/16 11:02 PM

The for end cap appears to be horn rather than metal. Probably an option on a Type S as is the butter knife bolt handle. It also has Mauser factory scope mounts....Very nice

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: dons]
      #279669 - 23/03/16 12:57 AM

Kurz Mauser Oberndorf prewar

Holt´s reoffering unsold lots:
http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...5&saletype=

Now offered for 2.340 including fees and VAT. A real bargain.

Wonder it was unsold.
Have some more details , because I made that rifle build and sold it a few years ago.
Genuine commercial Oberndorf Kurz Mauser with original furniture, Lothar Walther barrel copy in .243 Win.
Stockwork by Gernoth Walther (Stockmaker for Hartmann and Weiss).

And , No I have no personal interest in dealing with that rifle.
Suppose the former owner died.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: justcurious]
      #279675 - 23/03/16 03:49 AM

safing the pics






MAUSER
A FINE CUSTOM .243 WIN. BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 87579,
21 3/4in. unsigned nitro barrel (dated 2008) with adjustable tangent sights marked up to 1000 metres, ramp-mounted bead fore-sight with hood, the receiver (with thumb cutout) mounted with a Hensoldt Diasta-D 6x42 telescopic sight in quickly-detachable mounts, florally-engraved recoil blocks, hinged floorplate with lever release, highly-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, steel pistolgrip-cap, sling swivels, horn finial, 14 1/2in. pull including 1/2in. rubber recoil pad

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #281043 - 17/04/16 01:31 AM

"I don't need a bolt gun...I don't need a bolt gun...I don't need a bolt gun..."

Not typical Fraser engraving but WOW!! a 22HP on a Kurz Mauser action!!

Keep telling myself "I don't need a bolt gun...I don't need a bolt gun...I don't need a bolt gun..."

I can't get the pictures to copy well. Just need to stop looking!

http://www.cowansauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?id=175012

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      #281044 - 17/04/16 02:06 AM

common, cool down

the rifle is not so desirabel as you had believe before...
its just äh , ähm , a nice rifle



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #281083 - 17/04/16 09:28 PM

"MAUSER
A FINE CUSTOM .243 WIN. BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 87579"

I'll be damned if I can figure out the thinking behind that stock. It would be a perfect fit for prone shooting, but you could never shoot it prone with that scope mounted so far back. And the rear sight is a joke. You could never get your face low enough on that comb to use it.

Maybe it works in a Hochsitz or Kanzel, but I can't see how you would use it on the ground.

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      #281087 - 17/04/16 11:28 PM

I'll be going after that fraser with great vigor!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gundog01]
      #281089 - 17/04/16 11:36 PM

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I'll be going after that fraser with great vigor!



You should!
There were quite a few American customs built on Kurz actions but for some reason not so many English or Scottish rifles.
Then, being a 22HP which is really a very overlooked cartridge - mostly because of the odd .227-.228" bullet diameter - makes it even more appealing to me as I already have a double in that chambering.
This one is near the top of the heap IMO. Just one damn nice rifle!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #281120 - 18/04/16 09:26 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I'll be going after that fraser with great vigor!



You should!
There were quite a few American customs built on Kurz actions but for some reason not so many English or Scottish rifles.
Then, being a 22HP which is really a very overlooked cartridge - mostly because of the odd .227-.228" bullet diameter - makes it even more appealing to me as I already have a double in that chambering.
This one is near the top of the heap IMO. Just one damn nice rifle!



The auction is in my hometown so I plan to attend!

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      #281137 - 18/04/16 10:21 PM

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Sie haben eine PM.

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      #281480 - 25/04/16 02:55 AM

a Mauser rifle probably unknown outside of germany, the "Zoll" or customs carbine was made in the early 1950s by Heym for the german customs as a more civil version of the 98k with new barrelled actions coming from FN in belgium. because of its indestructebelility and its is more like a hunting rifle this gun is loved by dog handler when searching for wounded game.
excellent exemplar http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5903361













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: jgrabow]
      #283350 - 04/06/16 05:13 AM

take down in 7,5x55 Swiss http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5952086
















































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #283354 - 04/06/16 07:34 AM

Proofed in Zella - Mehlis 1/29 = January 1929. Barrel by the renowned barrelmaker Max Möller, Forstgasse 19, Zella - Mehlis.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Caprivi]
      #284120 - 18/06/16 11:51 PM

Two Mausers at the next Rock Island Auction (with a Mannlicher)

http://www.rockislandauction.com/search/aid/1027


Lot #856 318 Westley


Lot #857 Type 'A' in 8X60

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #284930 - 07/07/16 03:52 PM

A modell in 10,75x68 SN 88945 (1924)
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6028095

















































W.Förster/ Berlin in 8x57I
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=5995381












original mauser SN 83328 with Voigtländer "Panskopar" on claw mount, get a new barrel in 6,5x54 MS post war by Schultz&Larsen
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6004831












another Oberndorf Stutzen SN 125618 in 8x57IS, Dr Walther Gerard Carlottenburg on claw mount
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #285024 - 10/07/16 03:00 PM

8x57IS, looks like a pre WW 1 Suhl rifle
http://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-Mauser-...em-3361045.html















V.C.Schilling 9x57 https://www.gunsamerica.com/942516692/V-...ING-NUMBERS.htm





















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #285151 - 13/07/16 10:05 PM

What is involved usually for an American to buy a rifle like the 10.75 above and import it fromm Germany into the States?

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      #285155 - 13/07/16 11:58 PM

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What is involved usually for an American to buy a rifle like the 10.75 above and import it fromm Germany into the States?



Theres a few 10.75s in the US to avoid the headache of importation, it shouldn't take that long to find them, or are you just looking for a Mauser Model A

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      #285158 - 14/07/16 12:59 AM

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100711554

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100661897

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100602314

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-fo...un_id=100562323

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      #285174 - 14/07/16 07:52 AM

Holy cow. That Manton.

Well i was really sort of curious in the abstract sense of the word as it seems I often see lovely rifles for sale in Germany and England at good prices, but thanks Mr. Enabler...now I'm half way seriously in the market.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Squarebridge]
      #285179 - 14/07/16 10:56 AM

If you find one you want imported, NECG will do it for you.
http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/Imports_Exports.asp

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      #285241 - 15/07/16 10:21 AM

Hey Squarebridge,
You could buy the one at MW Reynolds and change your name to Double Squarebridge!!
That particular rifle is mine and IMO priced right. If it doesn't sell soon though, I think I will just keep it. Maybe come up with a good way to make brass. I think it could be done with 458WM with some belt removal and some serious resizing.

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      #285379 - 17/07/16 11:15 AM

Huvius you're right - it is priced right. You couldn't buy the action for that. I never have a fat roll at the right time. When I'm poor it's raining rifles!

Thanks for the tip on NECG - I never thought of that.

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      #285576 - 23/07/16 01:52 PM

J.P Sauer&Sohn 8x60S, Zeiss Zielacht on claw mount, SN 21602
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      #287700 - 11/09/16 01:49 PM

Emil Kerner&Sohn/ Suhl 8x60 , http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6072512






































original in 30 06, SN 86204 http://www.gunbroker.com/item/583391710





































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      #288882 - 10/10/16 12:59 AM

7x64 Stutzen probably build by Walther http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6110310



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Squarebridge]
      #289607 - 30/10/16 04:31 PM

dont want a common mauser?

jap Arisaka with british mark on the receiver build into a hunting rifle in 8x60S by Biber /Kronach
Mannlicher Schönauer claw mount http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6158899













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #289708 - 01/11/16 09:38 PM

Rigby .275
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6172269

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #289871 - 05/11/16 06:46 AM

simple and beauty - nice 8x57IS Stutzen made by Schultz&Larsen post war from a surplus 98K
http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/jagtriffel-otterup-kal-8x57-4/i4444626/#

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #292109 - 16/12/16 05:05 AM

asking price is fantastic and the new Swarovski Z6i 1,7-10x42 is not my cup ot tea but otherwise a nice mauser

9,5x57 Mannlich Schönauer (.375 Express) by Joseph Lang & Son 102 New Bond Street London, proably made in 1927 http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6241477



































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #292111 - 16/12/16 05:19 AM

Quite similar style to my "new" noname English .375 Rimless Nitro Express, London proofed too. Maybe built in the same shop? But about 10 times the price.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #292112 - 16/12/16 05:27 AM

is 9.5x57 the same as .375 Flanged nitro express?

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      #292117 - 16/12/16 06:49 AM

Quote:

is 9.5x57 the same as .375 Flanged nitro express?


No, though they had similar ballistics. The .375 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/2" was, as the name tells,a rimmed, tapered case, while the .375 Rimless Nitro Express aka 9.5x57 Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1910 has a rimless, bottlenecked case 2 1/4" long.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
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Quote:

Quote:

is 9.5x57 the same as .375 Flanged nitro express?


No, though they had similar ballistics. The .375 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/2" was, as the name tells,a rimmed, tapered case, while the .375 Rimless Nitro Express aka 9.5x57 Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1910 has a rimless, bottlenecked case 2 1/4" long.




Ah ok, thank you for that, that is an interesting rifle, how much do you think that should go for? I would say that is pretty on par with what similar rifles are priced here in the USA.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295076 - 11/02/17 06:24 AM

Oberndorf 8x57 SN 118631
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295090 - 11/02/17 11:04 AM

Anyone have a clue to the identity of the scope? The seller describes it as steel tubed, but I was under the impression that early rail mounted scopes had alloy tubes.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295221 - 14/02/17 06:54 AM

.257 Hyper Express by Grasset in Paris, known to me for the .445 Grasset Nitro before
http://www.naturabuy.fr/257-HYPER-EXPRESS-GRASSET-item-2139549.html
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295423 - 17/02/17 08:07 AM

sometimes the "in auction" is also a archive thread

happen last year, this 10,75x68 SN 99505 sold cheap for 950 euro


http://www.rieunier-associes.com/html/fi...mp;aff=1&r=

and I was trying to remember where seeing it before

no, was not the same http://www.bestguns.de/main.php?g2_itemId=2878

10,75x68 SN 54313



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295447 - 18/02/17 01:25 AM

It is interesting that the Grasset rifle is fitted with a Martini Cadet sight, which is normally marked to correspond with the .310 Cadet cartridge. I wonder if the range markings have been changed to correspond to the .257 Hyper Express cartridge?

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      #295527 - 20/02/17 12:31 AM

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...3&saletype=

A 7X57MM MAUSER 'INTERMEDIATE' BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 31431,
28 3/8in. octagonal nitro barrel matt top-flat with a banner silver inlaid 'DEUTSCHE WAFFENFABRIK, BERLIN S.W.18', tangent rearsight to 1200 yards, ramp-mounted adjustable winged bead foresight, receiver (with thumb cutout) with matted receiver ring (stamped with later registration number), military-style release floorplate, semi-pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, side panels, crosspin fore-end fastening, sling swivels, 14 1/4in. pull including steel buttplate, weight 8lb. 3oz.








http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp...865&image=1
MAUSER-WERKE A.G.
A SCARCE .250-3000 SAVAGE 'KURZ' BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 107101,
21 7/8in. octagonal nitro barrel with raised tapered matt top-rib, engraved 'MAUSER-WERKE A.G. OBERNDORF AM NECKAR', open sights removed and dovetailed inserts, the muzzle threaded for a sound moderator and front sight ramp modified, (thread cap seized), receiver (with thumb cutout) mounted with a contemporary Carl Zeiss Zielvier telescopic sight, serial no. 34165, in quickly-detachable mounts, hinged floorplate with lever release, double set triggers, high-combed pistolgrip stock with engraved steel pistolgrip-cap, sling swivels, 15in. pull, weight 8lb. 4oz.








98 stutzen in 5,6x57, probably Ferlach made with a typical austrian touch
https://www.dorotheum.com/en/auctions/cu...f19a250e83a9b0f





just compare it with this Mannlicher M 95



speaks for itself



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295642 - 22/02/17 06:23 AM

An old strong used Röll Mauser

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6327299

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Forestboy]
      #295645 - 22/02/17 07:07 AM

allways better to safe the pics before they are lost


Walter Röll Mauser in 7x64 proofed Ulm 1958
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #295652 - 22/02/17 11:02 AM

Quote:


9,5x57 Mannlich Schönauer (.375 Express) by Joseph Lang & Son 102 New Bond Street London, proably made in 1927






That's a really nice looking rifle.

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Quote:

allways better to safe the pics before they are lost





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      #296423 - 07/03/17 07:39 AM

Manufrance Rival in 10,75x68 SN 462
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #296700 - 10/03/17 06:36 AM

CZ 98 Waffenwerke Brünn 8x57Is

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6368104

ZG 47 7x57

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6366639

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Forestboy]
      #298755 - 08/04/17 07:24 PM

belgian Delcour barrel in 10,75x68 for mauser 98, ready to use it


http://www.naturabuy.fr/canon-DELCOUR-pr...em-3779996.html

if you looking for a smaller project 8x60 Oberndorf SN 125682
http://www.naturabuy.fr/Mecanisme-rare-carabine-MAUSER-square-bridge-item-1667125.html















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #300167 - 06/05/17 02:14 PM

Mauser 71 in 11,15x60R http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6444320









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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #300200 - 07/05/17 07:47 PM

http://www.australianarmsauctions.com/cat_online_3.html

I wonder who got lot#309 today and at what price???


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      #300249 - 09/05/17 05:14 AM

safe the pic before its gone, SN 99958




"309
EXTREMELY SCARCE OBERNDORF MAUSER 98 KURZ ACTION TYPE A B/A SPORTING RIFLE: 250/3000; 22" round tapered barrel; exc clean bright bore; ramp mounted blade front sight & ramp mounted folding express sights to 500 yds; QD mounts & rings; B.C. & U proofs to action; lever release to floor plate marked GERMANY; A type stock with horn forend tip, capped semi-pistol grip, cheek piece, red rubber recoil pad & fitted sling eyes; new barrel fitted to same profile as orig; exc wo & cond.An extremely scarce & highly sought after Mauser Kurz action from the heart of McKenzie country in the South Island of N. Z; I.E. a working rifle. 99958 L/R"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #300391 - 12/05/17 09:07 PM

Quote:

safe the pic before its gone, SN 99958




"309
EXTREMELY SCARCE OBERNDORF MAUSER 98 KURZ ACTION TYPE A B/A SPORTING RIFLE: 250/3000; 22" round tapered barrel; exc clean bright bore; ramp mounted blade front sight & ramp mounted folding express sights to 500 yds; QD mounts & rings; B.C. & U proofs to action; lever release to floor plate marked GERMANY; A type stock with horn forend tip, capped semi-pistol grip, cheek piece, red rubber recoil pad & fitted sling eyes; new barrel fitted to same profile as orig; exc wo & cond.An extremely scarce & highly sought after Mauser Kurz action from the heart of McKenzie country in the South Island of N. Z; I.E. a working rifle. 99958 L/R"

nice mauser



Was passed in at auction.....

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #301382 - 05/06/17 05:05 PM

Mauser 71 sporter http://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/tysk-militaer-riffel-mauser-model-1871-84/i4676976/#



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #301494 - 07/06/17 12:43 PM

Quote:

asking price is fantastic and the new Swarovski Z6i 1,7-10x42 is not my cup ot tea but otherwise a nice mauser

9,5x57 Mannlich Schönauer (.375 Express) by Joseph Lang & Son 102 New Bond Street London, proably made in 1927 http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6241477





































Can any of our German Brethren tell us if this rifle is still for sale? I would love to own it!

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      #301542 - 08/06/17 02:11 PM

maybe but its possible anymore to see who sells this rifle

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #301548 - 08/06/17 09:11 PM

Quote:

maybe but its possible anymore to see who sells this rifle



I went back and found the person who sold the rifle, and it did sell. That is a shame, I would of purchased it!

Not enough pre-war English magazine rifles out there it appears!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #305399 - 16/09/17 04:19 AM

original Mauser 9x57 SN 102847
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      #305889 - 01/10/17 11:13 PM

original "African Model" in 10,75x68, SN 27682

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #305898 - 02/10/17 04:40 AM

Very nice, thanks for posting.

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      #306043 - 06/10/17 12:49 PM

Wow that is a very nice rifle thanks for posting it lancaster.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #306052 - 06/10/17 08:50 PM

8x68S by A. Spendal in Ljubljana ( Laibach)

http://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/m...p;currentpos=66

















original FN made .375 H&H

http://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/m...g=1&slide=0












Schmit & Habermann (ESHA)/Suhl made Stutzen for Philipp Reeb/Bonn in 6,5x52R
http://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/m...p;currentpos=59









A. Ziegenhahn in Suhl, 6,5x57
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      #307213 - 04/11/17 06:56 AM

original double square bridge Mauser in 10,75x68, SN 121581
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      #307216 - 04/11/17 08:04 AM

Walter Borg in Stockholm, Sweden have opened their next gun auctions website. There is some nice mausers, for example one African special in 9,3x62.

https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/latest

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #307288 - 05/11/17 11:20 PM

thank you kari


https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/h17/kulgevar/4552_1


african rifle in 9,3x62 , SN 121154


will not end in the unsold lots but this Brno ZG 47 in 9,3x62, SN 03622 will find a new home too

https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/h17/kulgevar/4526_2






probably not the personal rifle of his holiness the rastafari



but no doubt someone high ranking in the old ethiopia like this




"semi" original in 10,75x68 SN 49204










https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/h17/kulgevar/4552_2

good Immanuel Mefferet/Suhl in 9,3x62 ,SN 33982
https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/h17/kulgevar/4494_1



looks like Chr. Schilling in Suhl had reworked WW 1 surplus for making this 9,3x57
SN 331
https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/h17/kulgevar/4548_5



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #307307 - 06/11/17 05:50 AM

The 10,75x68 there is nothing"semi original"about it.
Carvings and inlays made by Mauser Factory for Imperor of Abyssinia(Etiopia)
Menlik II.See second book by Speed.

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      #307650 - 12/11/17 05:35 AM

8x57IS by Sauer&Sohn/Suhl
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      #307654 - 12/11/17 09:05 AM

Looks very nice.

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      #307679 - 13/11/17 04:55 AM

A somewhat earlier Sauer & Sohn, built on a transitional small ring action, Mauser serial number 2076, Sauer serial number 89640, making it one of the very earliest 98 sporting rifles, since the first 2000 transitional models were furnished to the German military prior to adoption. It is fitted with a half round, half octagon barrel with full length integral rib. The Redfield Jr. mount and the Lyman Alaskan scope were already fitted. The caliber is 8X57J.

I won it at an auction last spring in which I was the only bidder on that particular rifle.

The stock has been recently refinished by Lon Paul.

I had it on the range yesterday in anticipation of the opening of deer season this coming Saturday. The last three shots I fired were in the 2" "10" ring of the 100 yard smallbore target. Two of the three were in the 1" "X" ring. The 2 1/2X scope with post and crosshair reticle does not lend itself well to precision aiming, but I find it unbeatable in the hunting field.

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      #307685 - 13/11/17 05:43 AM

thanks, Sauer&Sohn mauser are rare but I think the quality also of your rifle is excellent?

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      #307944 - 19/11/17 05:17 AM

Rigby in 7 mm Rem Mag
https://www.dorotheum.com/auktionen/aktu...age=3&img=2












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Rigby & Co. - London, Mauser System 98, cal .: 7 mm Rem. With Holland & Holland barrel and original certificate from Rigby, No .: 66937 (5377), barrel length: 620 mm, rifle trigger, wing guard, flat abutment with ball handle, the steel parts labeled, the barrel labeled with: "Holland & Holland , Burton Street, London "'7 mm REMINGTON MAGNUM' and British bombardment, express sight with two hinged visor blades with inlaid silver thread, the Mauser system originally from military production, the system sleeve labeled with:" SIGHTED FOR RIGBY'S SPECIAL HIGH VELOCITY .275 BORE CARTRIDGE POINTED BULLET 140 GRS ", on the left side an EAW assembly, assembled ZF 'Bushnell' Trophy XLT 3-12 x 56, Section: 4a, with working lights, height and side adjustment, Butler Creek flip-up lens and eyepiece, 30 mm main tube made of light alloy, nutskin with round pistol grip, fish skin, steel butt plate, swivel handle, monogrammed plate upper side with 'IA', used, good to very good He condition, inside mirror-like, needs cleaning, blackening in good condition, slightly stained or shiny at the edges, shaft with traces of wear, no valid bombardment, collector's weapon, with original Rigby A + M certificate

According to the last owner, there is the following story about this rigby: "In July 1929, Rigby delivered to the British officers Major Ian Anderson and Jim Corbett, who were hunting friends, the identical guns in caliber .275 HV This Rigby Snr: 5377 was added The many hunts in India have been successfully fought against ogre tigers, as described in the book 'My India' After independence from India, both officers were sent to Kenya and the Rigby 5377 remained in India at the Maharajah of Gujarat! My father, Dipl.-Ing. Heribert Michlmayer from the University of Natural Resources and Applied Life Sciences, was sent to India to cultivate several fields provided by the Boku Maharajah for the cultivation of cucumbers, since there were several tigers in the area at that time who abducted and devoured people from the villages, the maharaja asked my dad to kill them with this rigby and from these For the reason my father got the Rigby as a gift after his death! It was proven that my father and I killed 3 tigers and 2 leopards with this weapon. The aforementioned Major Ian Anderson is also the great-grandfather of Ian Anderson, bandleader of the famous group Jethro Tull. "

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      #308258 - 25/11/17 03:06 AM

"WESTLEY RICHARDS
A WESTLEY RICHARDS .425 MAGNUM EXPRESS BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. LT42096,
26in. nitro barrel (likely replacement in 2001) engraved 'WESTLEY RICHARDS. ENGLAND.' block-mounted open sights with two folding leaf sights, matted finish with gold-inlaid sight lines and marked for 50, 100 and 150 yards, block-mounted bead fore-sight with flip-up moonsight and fold-over protector, receiver (with thumb cutout) mounted with a Swarovski Z6i 1-6x24EE telescopic sight, serial no. R844939294, in quickly-detachable mounts, matt top receiver ring, recoil blocks, hinged extended magazine with lever release, well-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, steel pistolgrip-cap, sling eyes, 14 1/2in. pull including 3/4in. rubber recoil pad, weight 9lb. 14oz. (unscoped) and 11lb. 3oz. (with scope) "
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      #308279 - 25/11/17 09:57 AM

Looks very very nice. Lovely timber and a nice H&H mounts. Nice and dark overall, looks great.

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      #308335 - 27/11/17 12:09 AM

Very nice.

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      #309151 - 19/12/17 02:18 AM

MarkR,

what does that mean when you say, "Was passed in at auction....."

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      #309155 - 19/12/17 05:21 AM

The wrist angles and ceckering design and overall wonderful work makes me think Dorleac.

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      #309177 - 19/12/17 04:06 PM

single suare bridge 8x60S , SN 121093
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6754425













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      #309186 - 19/12/17 08:35 PM

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single suare bridge 8x60S , SN 121093
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6754425



That sure looks like a solid sided double square bridge to me. Full octagon barrel with integral rib. As the seller says, a nice candidate for a rebore/rechamber to 9.3X62.

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      #309190 - 20/12/17 12:24 AM

It was a double square bridge, but rear bridge is removed and it looks to me like half octgonal to round barrel.

Pity the scope mounts is gone.

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      #309196 - 20/12/17 02:07 AM

Ah, Gen Hicks, you caught me. The description says "Laufkontur von eckig auf rund." (Barrel contour changes from angular to round). However, in my mind a double square bridge remains one, no matter if the rear bridge is mutilated or ground off. Also, as far as I know, there are no solid left wall single square bridge actions.

The reason I didn't notice the alteration to the rear bridge is that I have a double square bridge Oberndorf Mauser with a Suhler Einhakmontage and the rear foot is dovetailed into the square bridge without otherwise changing it.

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      #309226 - 20/12/17 04:30 PM

Quote:



The reason I didn't notice the alteration to the rear bridge is that I have a double square bridge Oberndorf Mauser with a Suhler Einhakmontage and the rear foot is dovetailed into the square bridge without otherwise changing it.



Pray share some photos?

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      #309234 - 20/12/17 09:11 PM

Hello,

I don't see the rear bridge was altered. It seems original to me. By the way, DORLEAC have showed recentley a .404 J made with an Original Sporting Mauser action like this 8x60 S: single FRONT square bridge!
Mr. DORLEAC said it was very rare but entirely original.

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      #309235 - 20/12/17 09:23 PM

Quote:

Pray share some photos?



I'm having trouble posting photos for some reason but I will attempt to describe the arrangement.
The rear base of the mount has a male dovetail extending from front to rear, and the square bridge has a corresponding female dovetail cut in it to receive the male dovetail. This eliminates the need for any attaching screws and lowers the base as far as possible.

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      #310097 - 08/01/18 12:18 AM

Kurz in 6,5x54 Mauser, SN 111xxx, http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6775738













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      #310408 - 13/01/18 06:35 PM

belgian made 8x60S hunting rifle Smits/Liege build on a FN action and it have small things showing another taste and make it different from the common german rifle























https://www.naturabuy.fr/ARTISANAL-BELGE...em-4364452.html

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #310647 - 19/01/18 10:05 AM

G'Day Fella's,

FYI, here's a couple.

https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=113753

and
https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=113315


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      #311149 - 27/01/18 07:06 AM

Humbert, thinking it was a belgian maker from liege
a 404 build with a FN action
https://www.naturabuy.fr/CARABINE-HUMBERT-SAFARI-calibre-404-10-75-73--item-2278485.html










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      #311179 - 27/01/18 08:51 PM

Lancaster, Humbert is an arms dealer that has been established at Saint Etienne in France for ages; they still trade and their website is www.humbert.com . For those not aware, Saint Etienne, in central France, is the city where arms making and arms trading has historically been concentrated. Regards. Louis

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      #311184 - 27/01/18 09:57 PM

thanks, what do you think about the 404, its belgian made
isn't?

the rifle don't looks so bad( I have no sense for engraved safe queens).
would be just the rigth rifle to give Ziegenhahn in Suhl´for rechamber it to 404 Schueler Magnum. dont need it but would be cool to have it.

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      #311185 - 28/01/18 12:01 AM

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for rechamber it to 404 Schueler Magnum



What's the difference between the normal .404 Jeffery and the .404 Schueler Magnum? Thanks.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #311191 - 28/01/18 01:46 AM

the 404 Schueler Magnun was a maybe pre WW 1 improvement of the 404 by Schueler
some years ago one case was found in the old proof house in zella mehlis behind an old board after being there for 80 -90 years iirc, by the old master Ziegenhahn. he had made a chamber reamer and at least one rifle, brass can be made from 460 weatherby cases. the cartridge is also in the 460 weatherby class and much to heavy but cool!


http://www.municion.org/

the Zi-Di headstamp is an old Ziegenhahn trademark, its a reworked weatherby case
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      #311243 - 28/01/18 07:26 PM

Thanks for the info.

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      #311864 - 07/02/18 04:35 PM

once popular in east africa
a 6,5x58 Portoguese Mauser ,SN 96618
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1030/782/mauser-sport





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      #311868 - 07/02/18 05:10 PM

That certainly looks very nice. Lovely timber.

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      #312548 - 18/02/18 03:23 AM

Does anybody here have experience forming 6.5X58 brass?
I've read it can be made from 8X57.

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      #312552 - 18/02/18 04:36 AM

I would take 6,5x57 brass thats easily available but the common suspects 8x57, 7x64, 30 06 should work


going back to the roots
old sporter making from a M 71 Jaegerbüchse
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6844629















its no thread about military rifles but this old Mauser is remarkable
a M 71 rifle that got a liner in 8x57I
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6809595












can't remember seeing another M 71 in 8x57 before


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      #312560 - 18/02/18 09:03 AM

Quote:

Does anybody here have experience forming 6.5X58 brass?
I've read it can be made from 8X57.



I make mine from 30-06. Needs to be trimmed shorter after case forming

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      #312570 - 18/02/18 11:00 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Does anybody here have experience forming 6.5X58 brass?
I've read it can be made from 8X57.



I make mine from 30-06. Needs to be trimmed shorter after case forming



Cool. Going to need to make some for that little TypeA posted above.

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      #312575 - 18/02/18 03:08 PM

What were the Mausers used by von Lettow-Vorbeck's troops in German East Africa in WW1? Were they M71's or was there an M84(?) ?

What cartridge was used?

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      #312576 - 18/02/18 03:10 PM

Quote:

once popular in east africa
a 6,5x58 Portoguese Mauser ,SN 96618
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1030/782/mauser-sport







Very neat looking Mauser sporters. And no doubt a useful cartridge for medium game.

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      #312588 - 18/02/18 06:28 PM

common rifle in east africa was the Jägerbüchse Mauser M 71 in 11,15x60R. the Jägerbüchse was 10 cm shorter than the infanterie rifle M 71 and not only made for the hunter units but also for other technical troops. prior to the massive losses of the great war this old blackpowder single shots were seen as worthless old iron.






this is the only pic I know were the askaris have the carbine 88, proably because its a machine gun troop so they use the same ammo like the machine gun





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      #312590 - 18/02/18 06:39 PM



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      #312591 - 18/02/18 07:06 PM

https://www.lockhatters.co.uk/pith-helmet.html

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      #312598 - 19/02/18 12:19 AM

Thanks very much lancaster. And for all the interesting photos.

I did guess you might already have posted something on it, but didn't look. I haven't seen any of these photos anyway though.

As for that old cartridge being ineffective the Askaris were effective against the British East Africa forces armed with .303's though.

At one time I hoped to find an example of each to hang on my wall. Now I would need my gun bunker/stong room to be built to be able to hang at least one of them on a wall. The old M71 might pass as an unfiring antique.

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      #312599 - 19/02/18 12:20 AM

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https://www.lockhatters.co.uk/pith-helmet.html



I wonder if that pith helmet has a workable leather strap on it? it might well have a real one. The one's I have, have a fake strap for show only. No good in a wind.

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the leather strap looks serviceable and for this price I would insist

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the leather strap looks serviceable and for this price I would insist



GBP225 !!!!!!

Damned right! For that price a leather worker can add a new leather strap to mine which cost around $80 from memory.

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      #312621 - 19/02/18 05:15 AM

Quote:

Quote:

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Does anybody here have experience forming 6.5X58 brass?
I've read it can be made from 8X57.



I make mine from 30-06. Needs to be trimmed shorter after case forming



Cool. Going to need to make some for that little TypeA posted above.



Congratulations on the buy.

Mine is also a Type A, double trigger serial no 106xxx

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      #312623 - 19/02/18 05:16 AM

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the leather strap looks serviceable and for this price I would insist



GBP225 !!!!!!

Damned right! For that price a leather worker can add a new leather strap to mine which cost around $80 from memory.



You want a genuine cork Pith helmet. That looks like material only

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      #312635 - 19/02/18 06:29 AM

Brno Z in 6,5x57 http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/262161-brno-z-6-5x57/





Brno Z in 7x57 http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/288135-kulovnice-zbrojovka-brno-z-7x57/





Zbrojovka Brno ZG 47 7x64, http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/261637-kulovnice-opakovaci-zbrojovka-brno-zg-47/







Zbrojovka Brno in 7x57, http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/239602-kulovnice-zb/



Zbrojovka Brno 6,5x57,http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/221155-kulovnici-opakovaci-zbrojovka-brno-cz-6-5x57-celopazba/









Zbrojovka Brno 7x57,http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/220511-kulovnice-7x57/







Zbrojovka Brno Z 6,5x57, http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/217410-kulovnice-z-6-5x57/











Zbrojovka Brno, ZG 47 7x57, http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/207718-zg-47-7x57/











Zbrojovka Brno 7x57 made 1946,http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/206214-opakovaci-kulovnice-7x57-brno/







Zbrojovka Brno 7x64, http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/203700-opakovaci-kulovnice-7x64/









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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #312657 - 19/02/18 10:54 AM

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You want a genuine cork Pith helmet. That looks like material only



Here's a real one for $48.00 USD. Others can be found on the 'net as well, in various styles and with pith, cork, and other absorbent lightweight construction. When dipped in water (especially in a dry climate) they become evaporative cooling units.

Not too many years ago, these were hard to find on the 'net. Now there are many available.

Pith



Here's another on Amazon:
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      #312665 - 19/02/18 12:51 PM

Quote:

Quote:

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the leather strap looks serviceable and for this price I would insist



GBP225 !!!!!!

Damned right! For that price a leather worker can add a new leather strap to mine which cost around $80 from memory.



You want a genuine cork Pith helmet. That looks like material only



Crafted from cork, the helmet has cooling properties thanks to its air vents and cotton covering.



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Quote:

Quote:



You want a genuine cork Pith helmet. That looks like material only



Here's a real one for $48.00 USD. Others can be found on the 'net as well, in various styles and with pith, cork, and other absorbent lightweight construction. When dipped in water (especially in a dry climate) they become evaporative cooling units.

Not too many years ago, these were hard to find on the 'net. Now there are many available.

Pith



Here's another on Amazon:
More Pith



Yes theose the ones made in Vietnam for a few bucks and where the straps are for show only and pretty artificial. The pith helmet itself isn't bad though.

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      #312667 - 19/02/18 01:00 PM

The French design has the best shape in my opinion. Once was available in jungle camo. I wanted one like that.





The Indian for knobheads.



The best one was perforated though, not on the site at the moment. Similar to a German colonial pith helmet. I have one of those as well.

I have one of these as well as the (fake) gilt insignia suitable for a battle at Rourkes Drift.



Now I just need a proper Martini-Henry to go with it and also a nice Mauser M71 to go with the "German-like" helmet. Back on topic.

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      #312739 - 20/02/18 08:12 PM

Here's a Wolseley type with a rather functional looking suspension and liner.



It's available on Ebay:
Ebay



Ol' Grand Dad-


Here's an historic one (a Kiwi, at that):
Veteran Topee



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      #312766 - 21/02/18 05:49 AM

xause point me to another auction with an interesting mauser, now sold
https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/A-Hollis-B...&rfpb=0#Top

was not cheap but he thinks its a rigby made rifle in a Hollis stock


A. Hollis & Son Mauser Bolt Action Rifle

Barrel marked "A. HOLLIS & SON. RIFLE. MAKERS. TO H.R.H THE. DUKE. OF. CANNAUGHT".
Single square bridge, stepped receiver ring, slant box magazine, .350 Express





sold for 5500

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #312769 - 21/02/18 06:24 AM

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This is an interesting photo, as it shows a "Leichte Feldkanone C/73", 8 cm caliber. According to v.Lettow – Vorbeck's books, the German Schutztruppe had two of these outdated guns in 1914. Since about 1900 the two guns had decorated the lawn in front of the government house in Daressalam. The empty shells were planted around the edge of that lawn, while the impact fuses were found in a dark warehouse corner. Lacking any artillery except some light mountain guns, the 2 old cannons were cleaned up and pressed into service. The shells were unearthed, wound with copper wire guide rings and refilled with blackpowder . Both guns were used effectively in November 1914 to repel an abortive landing of about 8000 British – Indian troops near Tanga. The outcome of this landing allowed the Schutztruppe to expand and resupply, as the British forces left behind enough modern Lee –Enfields to equip more than 3 companies, 16 machine guns, 600 000 cartridges and sundry other equipment. The Schutztruppe could field only about 1000 men against the numericallly superior empire forces, most of them freshly recruited Askaris.
In 1914 the peacetime Schutztruppe had 14 companies, 216 Europeans and 2540 Askaris. Three companies were just rearmed with new M98a Mauser carbines, while the rest still had the old blackpowder, single shot M71. Four new companies, numbers 15 to 18, were formed just after war was declared August 1914. Many Germans then living in East Africa entered service again. So the maximum force during the war numbered about 3000 Europeans and 11 000 native Askaris. During the war two blockade runners, "Rubens" 1915 and "Marie" 1916, brought in supplies, among them 3500 8mm rifles and carbines, two 6cm Marine landing guns and a total of 8 more machine guns.
This photo apparently shows one of those old 6cm landing guns and one of the Maxim MG 08 on naval landing carriage, together with M88 carbines, brought in by the "Rubens".
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Thank you for relating a fascinating bit of history, Kuduae.

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      #312806 - 21/02/18 07:31 PM

Looks very nice. Good cartridge as well.

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Yes interesting. Thanks.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #312814 - 22/02/18 12:13 AM

I was bidding on that one too but the price got out of hand for me.
There looks to be major rust pitting on the bolt shroud and even worse on the front sight and barrel.
It is a very special rifle, but putting it right would have been a major project.
Perhaps it went to the floor where somebody got a really good look at the bore and overall condition and felt it was worth the effort.
There was another Oberndorf Mauser I liked in the auction. Lot #784.
A late 8x57 TypeB, double square bridge, sold with another unusual Mauser with British proofs.

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      #312833 - 22/02/18 07:04 AM

Quote:

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This is an interesting photo, as it shows a "Leichte Feldkanone C/73", 8 cm caliber. According to v.Lettow – Vorbeck's books, the German Schutztruppe had two of these outdated guns in 1914. Since about 1900 the two guns had decorated the lawn in front of the government house in Daressalam. The empty shells were planted around the edge of that lawn, while the impact fuses were found in a dark warehouse corner. Lacking any artillery except some light mountain guns, the 2 old cannons were cleaned up and pressed into service. The shells were unearthed, wound with copper wire guide rings and refilled with blackpowder . Both guns were used effectively in November 1914 to repel an abortive landing of about 8000 British – Indian troops near Tanga. The outcome of this landing allowed the Schutztruppe to expand and resupply, as the British forces left behind enough modern Lee –Enfields to equip more than 3 companies, 16 machine guns, 600 000 cartridges and sundry other equipment. The Schutztruppe could field only about 1000 men against the numericallly superior empire forces, most of them freshly recruited Askaris.




thanks, would love to have a C/73 or much better the older C/64

reminds me on the boxer rebellion and the only canon the international defenders of the diplomats quarter in beijing had
iirc, the canon was found by an american soldier in the streets of beijing were it was dug in partly as a border stone


"from the fighting in beijing, the famous "international" canon in the front yard of the british embassy
the only canon defender had during the siege"

such things happen, I know a muzzle loader canon with the barrel of a german 3,7cm flak canon that served for 40 years as a part of an iron fence.

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      #313306 - 28/02/18 11:37 PM

10,75x68 https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-chasse-MAUSER-Original-item-4620571.html













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Nice rifle for a good price

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The rear tangent sight is of ES 340 B .22. lfB origin.

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      #315348 - 17/04/18 02:20 AM

9,3x62, SN 118557
https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/v18/kulgevar/4863_4









10,75x68, SN 70742
https://www.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/auktion/v18/kulgevar/4817_1





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      #315523 - 21/04/18 11:13 PM

its used , but exactly how I like it
10,75x68 original FN made
https://www.naturabuy.fr/carabine-10-75-68-F-N-item-4823254.html















old, maybe pre WW 1 suhl made mauser that got a new 8x57IS barrel by Schultz&larsen after 1945
https://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/otterup-riffel-kal-8x57/i4977251/#











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      #317208 - 11/06/18 01:40 AM

Holland & Holland - London Kal.: 375 Holland & Holland Magnum
https://www.dorotheum.com/en/auctions/cu...l?currentPage=3

SN 2736









Danzig made hunting rilfe SN 2225
https://www.dorotheum.com/en/auctions/cu...l?currentPage=2





Wilhelm Brenneke Leipzig, Kal.: 7 x 64
https://www.dorotheum.com/en/auctions/cu...l?currentPage=3





Danzig made hunting rifle, SN 2259
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

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      #319574 - 03/09/18 03:43 AM

Eduard Kettner Cöln -Suhl in 8x60
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Valentin Christoph Schilling, Suhl M 71 clone in 9x36R https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/valentin-christoph-schilling-suhl-enkeltskudsriffel/i5106009/#























british made mauser rifle in 375 rimless/ 9.5x56 MS, good price I would say
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-Artisa...em-4601460.html















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      #321748 - 21/11/18 03:36 AM

Suhler Waffenwerke Gebrüder Merkel, maybe a 6,5x54 Mauser
Voigtländer 6x40 on claw mount
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      #321759 - 21/11/18 07:46 AM

Very nice rifle, tastefully finished and engraved. The scope looks good and suits the rifle very well.

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Very nice rifle, tastefully finished and engraved. The scope looks good and suits the rifle very well.

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      #321977 - 29/11/18 02:43 AM

xausa get a new 3006, SN 82511
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lyman peep sight
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      #321994 - 29/11/18 10:13 AM

xausa, that is a nice one! Can't wait to see how it shoots.

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      #322950 - 03/01/19 06:14 AM

FN Herstal in 10,75x68
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      #323157 - 09/01/19 07:58 PM

jap arisaka is a mauser clone, first rifle I see for the 7x54 Sako
factory round based on 6,5x55 like the 8x54 krag

most of this ammo was probably shot in the mas 36 in 7x54, a very similar but different cartridge

http://www.lahdeniemi.fi/Sivut/kayt-kiv.htm



british made 425 Westley Richards
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #323165 - 10/01/19 05:26 AM

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jap arisaka is a mauser clone, first rifle I see for the 7x54 Sako
factory round based on 6,5x55 like the 8x54 krag


7x54 was the most common caliber among these "civilized" Arisaka rifles. Most of them were made for light bullets i.e. maximum bullet weight appr. 154 gr.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #324245 - 04/02/19 07:56 PM

Locke Mauser 10,75x68, Walther Locke& Co ltd. Calcutta Lahore & Dehli
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #325589 - 08/03/19 07:53 PM

10,75x68 , SN 118409
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #326517 - 28/03/19 05:15 AM

mauser 71 tranformed into a 16 ga gun, maybe the biggest you can do with this action
https://www.naturabuy.fr/4091-CANARDIERE-CALIBRE-16-CH-70-BRETELLE-SUPER-OCCASION-item-5463305.html















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #329597 - 23/06/19 07:15 PM

sweet little Schultz&Larsen Stutzen in 6,5x57, probably build with a WW 2 german K98k action















https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/schultz-larsen-m98-fuldskaeftet-kal-6-5x57/i5350032/#

425 Express Westley Richards http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=6971128































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #329598 - 23/06/19 10:05 PM

That little Schultz & Larsen Stutzen is something I could really enjoy!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #330344 - 20/07/19 07:07 PM

Gentlemen,

this rifle is available on EGUN auction as "Original Hollan & Holland" in .404 NE:


http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=7547987


Any ideas about the origin of this rifle? Is it worth to bid for it?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: MichaelSchwarz]
      #330345 - 20/07/19 07:15 PM

Unfortunately I am unable to download the photos of aforementioned rifle, please click the Egun link

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: MichaelSchwarz]
      #330351 - 21/07/19 12:43 AM

Norbert Wenninger have allways good stuff, here are the pics







































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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #330353 - 21/07/19 02:24 AM

Lancaster, thank you for your valuable assitance !

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: MichaelSchwarz]
      #330356 - 21/07/19 03:54 AM

I don't think the bottom metal on that H&H is original and it looks to have been broken through the wrist.
I guess the ad sort of says that.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #330360 - 21/07/19 04:53 AM

yes, the magazine is aluminium and the little break on the pistol grip is described as being "repaired by an expert"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #330361 - 21/07/19 04:56 AM

orignal FN in 10,75x68 https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-Mauser-F-N-Calibre-Cal-10-75x68-type-1924-item-5257591.html















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #330376 - 21/07/19 07:35 PM

In the 50's and 60's H&H made special mention of their use of aluminum for the bottom metal. It was considered pretty modern at the time.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #330377 - 21/07/19 10:26 PM

The 1950s – 60s were hard times for the British guntrade. I have seen several Holland & Holland bolt action rifles rifles from those times. They were made either on opened up ex-military German 98k or P13 Enfield actions. All had such light alloy undermetal and ventilated buttpads. Except the inscriptions and the iconic barrel shape, workmanship was so-so only at best. The checkerig was cut lopsided, and the oil finish was certainly not up to H&H prewar standards.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #330617 - 27/07/19 03:55 AM

westley richards 318 express, sn 36436
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: MichaelSchwarz]
      #330656 - 28/07/19 04:41 PM

original mauser 9,3x62, SN 118374
pre war scope mount and engraved by Christoph Friedrich Triebel in Suhl














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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #330657 - 28/07/19 04:48 PM

Very nice classy looking rifle.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #330669 - 29/07/19 02:35 AM

This one doesn't look like any commercial sporter I have ever seen. First of all, it has a small ring action, which otherwise only Kurz commercial rifles had. Secondly, it has no "Mauser Werke AG" manufacturer's legend on the left side of the receiver. Thirdly, the bolt handle knob does not resemble the commercial pear shaped knob. Finally, there are no proof marks visible on the receiver.

I suspect that someone mated an original Mauser take-off barrel with a military action and numbered the receiver to match the serial number on the barrel.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #331260 - 17/08/19 04:33 AM

british made 7 mm express
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #331262 - 17/08/19 04:50 AM

IMO price is quite low. If I understand correct, 7 mm Express is same as .280 Remington ?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #331263 - 17/08/19 04:57 AM

believe its a 7x57

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #331264 - 17/08/19 05:07 AM

Could be but I just read from Speeds book that (at least) Jeffery made some rifles in caliber .280/333. Even this old and rare british caliber is one alternative: http://www.cartridgecollector.net/7mm-eley-experimental-7x63-mm

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #331277 - 17/08/19 10:46 AM

31 cordite 173 bullet. Ring any bells for anyone?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #331726 - 27/08/19 04:03 AM

if you looking for a new project 8x60S SN 125682
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Mecanisme-rare-carabine-MAUSER-square-bridge-item-1667125.html























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #332431 - 17/09/19 04:15 AM

I thought this one was rather nice - however gone now.
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=7582215

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: badform]
      #332452 - 17/09/19 05:40 PM

Here's a nice old Fraser built Mousie takedown in .275 Rigby. Waidmannsheil asked me to post the photos for all: Mouse

Description from auction listing:

Fraser Mauser 98 in 275 Rigby Caliber. Absolutely Fantastic Example of Fraser's Unique Style.
Rifle is in near new condition. At some point in its history the rifle was re-barreled by Boss when they were in their Albemarle St address. Matching numbered Fraser scope if fitted with the usual triple horizontal range finding reticle. Optics are still in very good usable condition. Scope fit is tight as new. Fraser Magazine rifles are super scarce, especially so on a 98 Mauser action and especially so in 275 Rigby. This rifle is simply a pleasure to behold, as it would also to use!



Maker Fraser, Edinburgh
Gauge/Caliber 275 Rigby HV. Sighted for the 140 gr. Bullet
Barrels 25"
Chokes n/a
Engraving Scottish Fine Scroll
Action 98 Mausr
Stock Full Figured French
Butt Checkered Horn
L.O.P. 14 1/2"
Weight 7 lbs. 5.9 oz W/O Scope. 8 lbs 6.7oz. W. Scope
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #332454 - 17/09/19 05:58 PM

That's a lovely looking vintage takedown rifle. Well worth it for the successful buyer.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #332505 - 18/09/19 01:28 PM

Very nice rifle but IMO it´s safety doesn´t look like original one... ?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #332509 - 18/09/19 11:03 PM

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if you looking for a new project 8x60S SN 125682



This appears to be a good example of what was being slapped together at the end of WW II: very late serial number with post 1932 proof marks, non matching military style bolt, pre WW I model set trigger. That said, something could definitely be done with it, provided the bore is useable.

The asking price is ridiculous.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #332517 - 19/09/19 03:56 AM

What is the deal with the striker extending past the cocking piece? I have never seen that before. Also, the safety looks like a Buehler safety.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #332573 - 21/09/19 02:38 AM

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What is the deal with the striker extending past the cocking piece? I have never seen that before. Also, the safety looks like a Buehler safety.



The longer firing pin is used with a longer cocking piece and usually paired with a cocking piece sight. My guess is both of those were removed when the Buehlar safety was added.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: bouldersmith]
      #332578 - 21/09/19 03:53 AM

Quote:

Quote:

What is the deal with the striker extending past the cocking piece? I have never seen that before. Also, the safety looks like a Buehler safety.



The longer firing pin is used with a longer cocking piece and usually paired with a cocking piece sight. My guess is both of those were removed when the Buehlar safety was added.

Thanks. You are probably correct.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #332975 - 04/10/19 06:43 AM

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101304170


Check this out!!



Weren't most mauser 404s marked with the metric designation?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: wkudu]
      #333159 - 08/10/19 03:58 AM

I couldn't believe that an 80+ year old rifle could be in such good condition, so I consulted Jon Speed for his opinion. Much to my surprise, Jon said that upon seeing the rifle on GI, he immediately notified a collector friend, who immediately purchased it, settling the question once and for all at least in my mind. I actually had a phone call from Jon this morning which lasted quite some time and was very wide ranging in subject matter. I hope he enjoyed it as much as I did.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333177 - 08/10/19 10:55 AM

A wondeful example......hard to find in this condition

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: paradox_]
      #333188 - 08/10/19 04:02 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Homer]
      #333247 - 09/10/19 02:35 PM

Now here's one I've never seen before!
TypeB with a long full length octagon barrel in 10.75X68.
A bit odd but what a rifle!

https://auktion.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/h19/kulgevar/5874_2

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #333256 - 09/10/19 08:01 PM

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Now here's one I've never seen before!
TypeB with a long full length octagon barrel in 10.75X68.
A bit odd but what a rifle!

https://auktion.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/h19/kulgevar/5874_2


I don't see an octagonal barrel, just a standard round one with some light reflections.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: kuduae]
      #333263 - 09/10/19 11:05 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Now here's one I've never seen before!
TypeB with a long full length octagon barrel in 10.75X68.
A bit odd but what a rifle!

https://auktion.walterborg.se/sv/auktion/h19/kulgevar/5874_2


I don't see an octagonal barrel, just a standard round one with some light reflections.

Look at photo #2: it clearly shows the transition from round to octagon.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #333268 - 10/10/19 04:12 AM

The octagonal portion of the barrel doesn't begin until after the round portion which starts at the receiver ring and goes under the rear sight sleeve, so you might say that the barrel is round, octagonal and round again. The barrel itself looks exceptionally long to me. The description says 70 cm, which translates into 27.55", and octagonal.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333283 - 10/10/19 12:55 PM

Looks to be round just out past the sight and then octagonal the rest of the way.













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #333310 - 11/10/19 01:00 PM

Can somebody who knows comment on the trigger. Is this a factory arrangement.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: prairie_ghost]
      #333311 - 11/10/19 02:33 PM

It looks like a double set trigger with the rear trigger removed. I'm not sure what kind of a trigger pull that arrangement would produce, but I wouldn't want to use it. There would be no direct connection between trigger and sear.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333312 - 11/10/19 04:23 PM

Yes, it is a DST setup with the set trigger removed.




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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #333313 - 11/10/19 04:23 PM

The trigger pull of just the front trigger is usually hard with long travel before "breaking".
It was on my 9.3x62.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
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Quote:

It looks like a double set trigger with the rear trigger removed. I'm not sure what kind of a trigger pull that arrangement would produce, but I wouldn't want to use it. There would be no direct connection between trigger and sear.



It's a first type Oberndorf German double set trigger that has lost its rear cocking trigger.
The second type has a different front trigger shape.
They are fully machined in the upper side of the trigger guard.
This system was widely used on continental rifles.
With the rear trigger you set the mechanism and pulling the front one fires the rifle.
When set the pull is extremely light.
A long and heavy pull on the front trigger can also fire the gun.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #333510 - 17/10/19 05:16 AM

10,75x68, SN 83081
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #333930 - 28/10/19 06:56 AM

think many of you have seen this
MAUSER OBERNDORF AFRICAN MODEL SPORTING RIFLE https://simpsonltd.com/mauser-oberndorf-african-model-sporting-rifle-c42349/

8x57mmS; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent stock, 28'' barrel, Manufactured in 1908. This is a numbers matching rifle. Listed by serial number in John Speed's book as 7x57 (In ERROR?) The metal finish is in excellent condition. The bore is in excellent bright condition. The excellent fancy stock has sling swivels, a checkered wrist and a right hand cheek pad. It has a minor chip in the buttplate on the toe. Beautiful rifle., s/n 198xx

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #333980 - 29/10/19 04:39 AM

There is no denying that the rifle Awesome! But, is that price realistic? The last couple I saw sold in the $7-10,000 range.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: LSHopper]
      #334033 - 30/10/19 04:17 AM

we will watch what happens, usually after some months without sale price will going down at simpson

yes, think its a little bit high

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #334950 - 29/11/19 12:29 AM

7x64, SN 124554
sold by Springer's Erben in Vienna once
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...;currentpos=312



60 cm barrel, open sights with additional folding leaf, double set trigger, flag type safety and sliding tang safety, hinged magazine floorplate with release in trigger guard, walnut stock, fore-end with horn tip, fine chequering, pistol grip with horn cap, oval cheekpiece, rubber recoil pad 35,5 cm (damaged), Viennese claw mounted Kahles Heliavier, reticule 7A, (focus gummed), German proof before 1945, year of manufacture not visible, condition 3.

will not end by the 250 euro starting bid I presume

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #334969 - 29/11/19 06:47 AM

Very nice looking rifle, with nice wood. It just looks good.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #335019 - 29/11/19 11:02 PM

yes, its a very nice mauser,
we will see what it sold for

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #335033 - 30/11/19 06:30 AM

The front or set trigger looks peculiar, like the type found on some Mannlicher Schoenauers.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #335892 - 27/12/19 05:27 PM

another original FN made 10,75x68 https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-fn-original-10-75x68-item-6327511.html









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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #335895 - 27/12/19 05:49 PM

Worth a bit Eh !

I knew a guy with one of these, I think only use 340gr-350gr slug in Factory loads, be cool to reload with modern 400gr bullets ?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Sarg]
      #335910 - 28/12/19 02:51 AM

Quote:

I knew a guy with one of these, I think only use 340gr-350gr slug in Factory loads, be cool to reload with modern 400gr bullets ?



Indeed!
Not sure what twist FN gave their 10.75s but Mauser used the same for 10.75 and 404 Jeffery.
I find it interesting, maybe human nature, that we so often take a medium bore and instantly discuss loading heavier bullets to bring it into the realm of DG use and conversely look to lighter, flatter shooting projectiles to use in the bigger calibers to make them more versatile.

In this respect, the 10.75X68 with modern loading and either lighter or heavier bullets really could be a great all-round big game rifle!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #335991 - 31/12/19 02:04 PM

kurz Mauser in 6,5x54 Mauser SN 111xxx
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7771122









Kongsberg M 52 Stutzen in 8x57
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #336010 - 01/01/20 08:05 AM

Wow, that Kongsberg is like a hen's tooth. I heard they only made 400 and I have never actually seen one, only pics. I wonder how much it would cost to get it to the US?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: JDL]
      #336011 - 01/01/20 08:10 AM

Oh I just saw no international shipping. That's a bummer!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #337043 - 26/01/20 12:00 AM

pre war Suhl/Zella Mehlis mauser rifle in 6,5x55, very short with a 54 cm barrel
https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/jagtriffel-p-jung-kal-6-5-x-55/i5565414/#

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #337095 - 27/01/20 09:56 AM

That’s bloody beautiful.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #337123 - 28/01/20 07:04 AM

1600 DK ! Cheap as dirt !

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #337124 - 28/01/20 07:30 AM

214 euro, rifle looks great

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #337147 - 29/01/20 12:49 AM

The scope must have been really long and the mount really high to clear that bolt handle. Most likely a high power scope with a really big objective.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #337966 - 15/02/20 05:10 PM

.375, looks like a post war rival made from a 98k action
https://www.naturabuy.fr/RARE-Carabine-Manufrance-Rival-cal-375-H-H-item-6489254.html

















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #338825 - 09/03/20 01:30 AM

also mad ein italy Mauser 98 Concari - Lecco, .500 Jeffery (12.7×70 Schuler),55 cm heavy barrel, gold inlaid maker's name, engine-turned quarter rib, express sights with two additional folding leaves, front sight ramp with folding hood, front sling swivel on barrel band, Single Square Bridge action without thumbhole cut-out, gold inlaid on receiver ring "Big Game .500 Jeffery", border engraved and on magazine floorplate a bull elephant in Bulino style, bolt and springs jewelled, elongated bolt handle, bolt shroud type ZG47 with counter-directional striker safety gold inlaid with "F" and "S", finely adjusted direct trigger, bright hinged enlarged magazine floorplate with release in trigger guard, elongated to the steel pistol grip cap, crossbolt, well grained walnut stock, oval cheekpiece, blank gold stock oval, handy chequering, Decelerator rubber recoil pad 37 cm, eyes for detachable sling swivels, year of manufacture 1993, very sturdy dangerous game rifle for the most powerful of the classic bolt action Nitro Express cartridges, condition 2-3.
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...;currentpos=116








https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=130

Dan'l. Fraser & Co. - Edinburgh, Mauser Take Down, 7,65x53 Mauser

66 cm detachable barrel, front sight with hinged night sight, express sights with 2 additional folding leaves, Mauser receiver with narrow receiver ring, border engraved with sparse scroll, thumbhole cut-out, bolt shroud model Swedish with reduced flag type safety, cocking on closing action, flat bolt handle, altered magazine inscribed "FITTED WITH EDWARD'S PATENT magazine", fitted with a cut-off lever on the left, single set trigger, take down screw on the left of the receiver ring, detachable fore-end with Deeley latch, take down feature hindered by later added dovetailed mount bases (stock has to be taken off for take down), walnut stock, pistol grip, oval cheekpiece, horn cap 35,5 cm, sling swivel eyes, year of manufacture about 1900, condition 3.









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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Ash]
      #338950 - 11/03/20 02:17 PM

Quote:

That’s bloody beautiful.



I'll second that. Gorgeous rifle, and in my favourite caliber.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #338965 - 12/03/20 02:29 AM

That Edwards patent must be a Mauser equivalent to the Harris patent for the Lee Speed rifles.

What a great rifle that Fraser is!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Huvius]
      #338967 - 12/03/20 05:28 AM

was there ever a Fraser that was not great? serious

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #338968 - 12/03/20 06:35 AM

" bolt shroud model Swedish " does that mean its a 96 or some similar Swedish action, or just the shroud on a small ring ?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: yumastepside]
      #338969 - 12/03/20 07:04 AM

with that 7,65x53 chamber I suspect a 1893 turkish mauser was sporterized here

they did anything legal or not to get mauser rifles than from any source

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #338987 - 12/03/20 10:55 PM

Wow those are some SERIOUSLY good specimens; cost an arm, leg & kidney!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #339030 - 14/03/20 01:01 AM

The Fraser is gorgeous but I like the .500 Jeffery as well. Looks like a well thought out rifle for the dangerous stuff, for those who can handle it. I really like the lines and the dimensions.

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      #339480 - 28/03/20 08:08 AM

this was once a fine suhl made mauser sold by Emil Adam (have an old box 8x57IR with mauser a base rim) in berlin, than falling in the hands of someone ruthless https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/emil-adam-berlin-jagtriffel-kal-6-5-284/i5598672/
who change it into a 6,5-284 froim probably 6,5x57, take the claw mount of and the iron sights ...
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #339845 - 07/04/20 03:43 AM

original mauser 10,75x68 , SN 106743
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=8213452



























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      #339982 - 10/04/20 11:38 PM

the typical suhl made mauser rifle used for sniping in the great war



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      #340290 - 20/04/20 05:01 AM

Gastienne Renette is without any doubt a best name from paris but I dont know what this stock is here on the 10,75x68, it looks unusual on the pics
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-GASTINNE-RENETTE-MAUSER-Calibre-10-75x68-item-6639419.html





















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #340292 - 20/04/20 08:50 AM

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the typical suhl made mauser rifle used for sniping in the great war





Looks like a Haenel, neat picture

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      #340719 - 04/05/20 02:19 AM

C.G.Haenel made Mauser rifle in 9x57
23" One third octagon, two thirds round barrel with integral matted rib, is silver inlaid "C. G. Haenel Suhl Germany" in milled out portion of rib. Rib is fitted with folding rear and ivory bead front sight. Case hardened commercial Mauser action has border engraved and stippled top of receiver ring, and is fitted with Lyman model 37 bolt stop aperture sight. Bottom metal has lever floorplate release and is fitted with double set triggers. Bolt has classic commercial Mauser turned down handle with pear shaped knob. Bolt number does not match action. Relatively plain dense European walnut stock is classically styled with short schnabeled forend which is bolted to barrel, and raised side panels reinforcing wood around action. Stock measures 14" over steel buttplate, and features right hand cheekpiece and point pattern checkering on rounded pistol grip. Haenel SN 20619 is on bottom of barrel visible when action removed from wood. CONDITION: Fine, original. Barrel retains 60 - 70% original blue. Action retains most of its case hardening color. Bottom metal is mostly silver with traces of color. Stock retains most of its original finish with numerous light marks, and one or two heavier dings. Bore is excellent, bright and shiny throughout. Action is smooth. There is a 1" crack behind top tang with left side beginning to lift. (This should be stabilized before firing.)

27866 visible on bottom of action when removed from stock
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=445617

























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #340743 - 04/05/20 05:49 PM

A good description, except that the Lyman sight is a Model 35, not a Model 37.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: xausa]
      #340746 - 04/05/20 08:11 PM

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A good description, except that the Lyman sight is a Model 35, not a Model 37.



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      #341347 - 24/05/20 05:30 PM

11,2x72 Schüler with full stock made for Hansen /Hamburg
https://bestguns.de/Auktion/2696/Rarer-Fund-Grosswild-Safari-Stutzen-Hansen-Kal.-11,2x72.html

















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      #341909 - 08/06/20 01:42 AM

not 100% original anymore a B Model in 10,75x68, SN 122832
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      #343651 - 26/07/20 04:48 AM

10,75x68, SN 109864
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Mauser-modele-B-1931-10-75-68-restaure-par-M-O-F-item-6994379.html













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      #344546 - 24/08/20 03:40 AM

Quote:

Quote:

the typical suhl made mauser rifle used for sniping in the great war





Looks like a Haenel, neat picture



8x57I rifle with engraving "given for the fatherland by Eduard Kettner Cöln -Suhl" and on the bold handle " only for cartridge M 88 do not use S ammo"
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=9642883
( Zum Verkauf steht hier ein frühes Deutsches Scharfschützengewehr M98 aus dem Ersten Weltkrieg. Das Kaliber des Gewehres ist 8x57I. Auf dem Halbachtkantlauf steht die Beschriftung: „Für das Vaterland gestiftet von Ed.Kettner-Cöln-Suhl". Als Beschusszeichen ist das „N" mit Krone zu erkennen. Die Laufinnenkontur ist nicht mehr scharf aber dennoch brauchbar. Unter dem Gewehr befindet sich ein Magazin mit Klappdeckel. Auffällig ist der Deutsche Stecher, der nicht als Komplettbaugruppe nachträglich eingesetzt, sondern aufwendig in den Magazinkasten eingepasst ist. Auf dem Kammergriff steht die Beschriftung: „Nur für Patrone 88 -keine- S Munition verwenden" In die Systemhülse ist eine breite Montageplatte sowie ein Montageunterteil für eine vier Füß Einhakmontage eingesetzt. Der Schaft hat einige Gebrauchsspuren. An der rechten Seite im Bereich der Vorderschaftnase fehlt ein 30mm langes Holzstück. An der Schaftunterseite ist ein Monogramplättchen eingelassen. Das Zielfernrohr trägt keine Herstellerangaben. Die Bauart erinnert an Voigtländer. Der Höhenverstellring trägt Entfernungsmarken bis 300 Meter. Die Optik ist an den Rändern unscharf. Am Hinterfuß ist eins der zwei Füßchen gebrochen. Die aufgeführten Mängel hätten repariert werden können. )













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: themauserkid]
      #344679 - 30/08/20 03:49 PM

.275 rigby https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=10047994



























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: themauserkid]
      #344820 - 06/09/20 05:15 PM

10,75x68, SN notgiven but says its in the 1931 area
https://www.naturabuy.fr/MAUSER-98-item-7095053.html























Suhl made mauser rifle in 8x60S, https://www.naturabuy.fr/Ancienne-carabi...em-7095795.html
























such a rifle used in the movie All Quiet on the Western Front


8x60S, SN 110544
https://www.naturabuy.fr/MAUSER-cal-8x60-item-7094989.html


























Gewehr 71 sporter
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: themauserkid]
      #347281 - 29/11/20 06:16 AM

Christoph Funk in Suhl, 7x64
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12790836















another 7x64 by an unknown Suhl Gunmaker
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=10044834


















a post war 5,6x61 vom Hofe by Weiss in Frankfurt
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #347300 - 29/11/20 06:29 PM



Excellent choice of reticle. Only improved by fine to complete the cross.

The heavy cross makes for lower light for faster shooting.

The fine picket post point makes for very accurate aiming as well.

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      #347652 - 09/12/20 05:42 AM

SN 78992, 10,75x68
don't think the engraving was a god idea
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      #348132 - 19/12/20 03:54 PM

7x57, SN 67841
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12797804

























7x57, SN 124409
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12824614

























Mauser Mod. Mm 410 B in 22 lr, https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12815630

































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      #349336 - 17/01/21 03:03 AM

Suhl made 10,75x68
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/kugelrepetierer/jagdlicher-mauser-im-kaliber-1075x68--327301




















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      #349907 - 02/02/21 06:00 AM

looking here for something like this https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1036/918/five-bolt-action-sporting-rifles



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #349923 - 02/02/21 02:22 PM

Love the pre WW1 7x57 model b (67841) with the very early Zeiss as well as the later 7x57 (124409).

I also really like the 10.75 (78992) including the floorplate engraving and inlay, though I would have omitted the gold outline.

These are just about the right kind of rifles to have in my opinion - not pristine, a little unusual but very characterful, handsome and I'm sure very sound.

Could any of the floorplate work on the 10.75 be factory?

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      #349984 - 04/02/21 05:45 AM

I suspect its a 7 mm Mauser, 550 euro looks cheap
https://www.kunst-waffenkammer.de/feuerw...epetierbuechse/













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #350047 - 05/02/21 11:08 AM

Jesus guys, there’s some really sick porn being posted here... how can people get any work done - I can do is drool over old
Mausers!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: wedgetail84]
      #350794 - 24/02/21 03:46 PM

10,75x68, SN 109864
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Mauser-modele-B-1931-10-75-68-restaure-par-M-O-F-item-6994379.html











another 10,75x68
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12892920#img












7x57, SN 99366
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      #350796 - 24/02/21 03:58 PM

Man!
Mausers are COOL!!!

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      #352679 - 25/04/21 11:27 PM

rare 8x64S https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/jagtriffel-mauser-98-kal-8x64s-3/i6004882/











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      #353120 - 06/05/21 05:58 AM

Thieme & Schlegelmilch 10,75x68 in the next Dorotheum auction
SN 38519, https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7178440/





Haenel Mauser 98 stutzen in 10,75x68 that was sold on egun 3 days ago https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14027157

suspectful by the fact it was made from Haenel the 3,2 gr. GBP prove load on the receiver show it was a 10,75x61 Haenel once











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #353126 - 06/05/21 08:29 AM

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Thieme & Schlegelmilch 10,75x68 in the next Dorotheum auction
SN 38519, https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7178440/









You certainly can find the gems between all the ordinary guff Lancaster
I thought the first one was a .425 Westley Richards with its huge drop box magazine.
It must have been a 7 or 8 shot magazine in 10.75x68mm!

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      #353190 - 08/05/21 05:44 AM

J. P. Sauer und Sohn Suhl,SN 224571 3089

815 mm long octogonal barrel, https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7178434/#





6,5x58 portuguese - smells like made for south africa




Meffert Suhl, 8 x 57,
SN 46194, barrel 750 mm, 'R. Müller Cape-Town' 'Jmman. Meffert. Suhl' 'Sole Agent for South Africa',
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7178437/#












beautyful early african model mauser in 10,75x68, SN 27682
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7178443/#








'W. J. Jeffery & Co Ltd. 26 Bury Street St. James London' 333 Jeffery, mauser magnum action with 'Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf a/N.',SN 28105,

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #353452 - 16/05/21 03:00 PM

August Schüler Suhl 10,75x68
https://www.naturabuy.fr/CARABINE-SAFARI-AUGUST-SCHULER-10-75x68-item-7987139.html







typical Suhl made Mauser sold by Heinrich Barella in berlin, 9x57
https://auctionet.com/sv/1639723-433-kul.../images#image_1









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      #353774 - 27/05/21 04:57 AM

MAUSER
A SCARCE 7x57MM 'MODEL 1895 PLEZIER' BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 745,
circa 1902, 27 1/4in. nitro reproved (in 2021) octagonal barrel with tangent rear sights and winged windage adjustable bead fore-sight, turned down bolt handle, the sidewall engraved 'DEUTSCHE WAFFEN - UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN BERLIN' and marked with a South African registration number 'J1861', detachable floorplate with military style release, flat-side panelled semi-pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, sling swivels leather sling, schnabel fore-end, small chip at toe, the right side inset with a large oval white metal escutcheon, border engraved with blank centre, 13 1/2in. pull including steel buttplate

https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...109&image=7

















HARTMANN & WEISS
A .500 SCHULER JUMBO (.500 JEFFERY) DOUBLE SQUARE-BRIDGE BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 9139,
for 1996, 25in nitro barrel gold-inlaid 'HARTMANN & WEISS - HAMBURG', finely matted sight rib gold-inlaid '.500 SCHULER JUMBO' and with a thin gold band at the nocks form, open sights with two folding leaf sights, gold-inlaid sight lines and marked '50'. '100' and '150', ramp-mounted bead fore-sight with flip-up moonsight, some patches external pitting, engraved recoil blocks, hinged straddle floorplate with push button release, well-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, blued steel pistolgrip-cap (with trap), sling eyes, 14 3/4in. pull including 1in. rubber recoil pad, weight 10lb. 2oz.
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...80&image=11


























ORIGINAL BRENNEKE
A .505 GIBBS MAG. DOUBLE SQUARE-BRIDGE BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, SERIAL NO. 9005,
25 1/2in. nitro barrel engraved with the Original Brenneke trademark and 'CAL. .505 GIBBS MAG./ NR. 9005', finely matted sight rib with open sights and two folding leaf sights, gold-inlaid sight lines and marked '50', '100' and '200', ramp-mounted bead fore-sight with flip-up moonsight and protective hood, the underside of the action engraved 'HARTMANN & WEISS. LONDON HAMBURG', engraved recoil blocks, hinged straddle extended floorplate with push button release, boldly-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, skeletal steel pistolgrip-cap with central Brenneke 'bullet and B' logo, sling eyes, 14 3/8in. pull including 1 1/4in. rubber recoil pad, weight 10lb. 3oz.

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      #353865 - 30/05/21 03:05 PM

10,75x68 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14067639



































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      #353873 - 30/05/21 09:30 PM

Classy rig there Lancaster!
Nice timber for the stock, a no-nonsense hunter that you wouldn't cry tears if you scratched a bit here & there!
Very nice indeed & a good calibre to boot as well!

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      #354028 - 04/06/21 07:58 PM

That Mauser by Dirk Ruhland is superb.

Too bad it cannot be imported to the U.S. Otherwise it might find a new home on this side of the pond.

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      #354068 - 05/06/21 10:05 PM

why could it not be exported to the united staates? when I get guns from the staates you can get them too.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #354083 - 06/06/21 02:37 AM

Thanks for posting Lancaster. Some very nice bog bores in the auction houses.

I would assume Holts could facilitate export to the USA. I had two rifles in Germany exported through Holts to Australia, through the local Holts agent here. I assume as there are two Holts agents in Australia, that there would also be some in the USA. It isn't cheap though all up.

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      #354088 - 06/06/21 02:56 AM

Hi Lancaster

I think it's because the rifle is built on a DWM action - military. Regular commercial Mauser actions are OK for import to the US, but not rifles built on a military action. That's my understanding at least. I've imported several commercial Mausers.

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      #354094 - 06/06/21 03:19 AM

oh, holy stupidity! who makes regulations like this?

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      #354098 - 06/06/21 03:47 AM

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      #354099 - 06/06/21 03:50 AM

I’m not sure of the legislative or administrative history but it probably has its roots in the 1968 Gun Control Act.

I know that in importing original Mauser sporting rifles, the pear shaped bolt handle is your friend.

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      #354101 - 06/06/21 04:00 AM

The law was passed to protect the gun manufacturers, who were being threatened by a flood of military surplus weapons being sold at incredibly low prices. As is often the case, the flood had already taken place, so the consequences were borne by the custom gun makers who used military actions like this one. However, I doubt that whoever processes ATF import permit applications would identify a rifle in this price range with being military surplus or would identify the manuracturer DWM as being exclusively military.

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      #356164 - 19/08/21 06:00 AM

Mauser 71/84
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      #356492 - 02/09/21 05:38 AM

think its clever made, imho not an original mauser but a new build rifle with an old action
https://www.gebrauchtwaffen-spezialist.d...ild-Safari.html

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      #356562 - 05/09/21 05:23 AM

post war rival rifle in 10,75x68
https://www.naturabuy.fr/CARABINE-RIVAL-CAL-10-75x68-item-8236939.html














post war FN rifle in 10,75x68
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      #356572 - 05/09/21 10:16 AM

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post war rival rifle in 10,75x68
https://www.naturabuy.fr/CARABINE-RIVAL-CAL-10-75x68-item-8236939.html






I do like it. E1850. With decent projectiles would kill big game reasonably well.



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post war FN rifle in 10,75x68
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Only E690 for this one. Why so much cheaper?

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      #356585 - 05/09/21 04:19 PM

the FN mauser in 10,75x68 is very cheap and I would buy it if there was not a rifle for this caliber in the safe. don't know why but its a real bargain. would make a good rifle for northern territory to shoot water buffulo all day long.
the Rival mauser having the same post war FN action without thumphole but this was a gentlemans rifle and the finish may be better than the more common FN mauser working gun have.

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      #357301 - 09/10/21 05:18 PM

rival rilfe in 10,75x68 for 500euro!
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Rare-Carabine-R...em-8387351.html



















Suhl made Mauser Magnum in .280 Halger (Halbe&Gerlich, Kiel) by O. Geyger & Co, Berlin 1935 with a Mauser Magnum action SN: 101783 / 1928/1929
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14444528






















Suhl made Mauser Magnum 7x73 (7mm Super Express), magnum action SN 100959 made in 1939, sold by Waffen Jung, Stuttgart 1939

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #357312 - 10/10/21 08:16 AM

Unusually long stock on the 10.75x68, never seen one like that, almost like they put a normal rifle action & barrel in a stutzen stock?
Apart from that, all look like they hardly been used! Would be amazing pieces to collect

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      #357314 - 10/10/21 09:52 AM

Don't they call that the "African " model?

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      #357320 - 10/10/21 04:35 PM

its even longer if you know it is a 72 cm long barrel.

when seeing the rifle in the morning I thought there must be a mistake because the rifle was offered for 500 euro = 791 australian $ but yesterday in the evening it was allready sold so it seems this incredible price was the right one.

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      #357376 - 14/10/21 07:10 PM

so called "Zimmerstutzen" build from a surplus Mauser 71 military rifle before the great war for the little 4 mm rimfire cartridge https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14515741















nice stutzen https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14533668
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      #357838 - 05/11/21 08:03 AM

best post war 404 I have ever seen https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14527318













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      #357854 - 06/11/21 12:49 AM

Very nice!!!

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      #358710 - 30/11/21 05:56 AM

the dream of an original african mauser in 10,75x68
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14593371#img
70 cm / 28 " long barrel, SN 27682






















take the chance to compare the original african model (70 cm barrel )




with the french Rival mauser (72 cm barrel)



both in 10,75x68, it seems clear the rival was more or less a copy of this design

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      #359012 - 10/12/21 05:28 AM

416 Rigby by Auguste Francotte for Gastinne Renette FN Magnum action
https://www.naturabuy.fr/AUGUSTE-FRANCOT...em-8219710.html

























Otto Bock, Berlin 11,2x60 Schüler
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #359032 - 10/12/21 12:01 PM

That Francotte is great!
Curious, though, when called an “FN magnum action”, what does that mean?
That action looks to be a regular FN action to me, at least judging by the positioning of the crossbolt. Not as long as an original Oberndorf magnum length action.

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      #359039 - 10/12/21 03:48 PM

I would say 100% that is a standard M98 action that has been opened up for the 416 Rigby cartridge. You can see the amount of opening up done on the feed ramp/lower locking lug recess area. I am not sure but I imagine the true Magnum Mauser action also had an extended length magazine follower not the standard version that leaves a gap in the front as the one in the photo does.

My own Type A standard length Mauser has been opened up for the 404 Jeffery cartridge and the magazine and feed ramp look very similar to that in the photo. The feed ramp for the 416 is even more radically ground away to fit the longer again 416 Rigby cartridge.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: eagle27]
      #359048 - 10/12/21 09:10 PM

FN never made a true Magnum length Mauser action. What they advertised as their “FN Magnum Action” were merely standard length actions, opened up to take .375 H&H and .404 length cartridges.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #359227 - 15/12/21 10:19 AM

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Otto Bock, Berlin 11,2x60 Schüler
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Great rifle. A great project for someone.

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      #359440 - 20/12/21 05:13 AM

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the dream of an original african mauser in 10,75x68
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14593371#img
70 cm / 28 " long barrel, SN 27682






















take the chance to compare the original african model (70 cm barrel )




with the french Rival mauser (72 cm barrel)



both in 10,75x68, it seems clear the rival was more or less a copy of this design

but, there is no dishonour in copy the best
thank you for your attention




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      #360070 - 05/01/22 06:36 PM

223 rem build with a Sako short action and a Heckler&Koch polygon barrel in 1970 by Kupfer in Kassel
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Mauser Commercial Orberndorf sporting rifle, Type B, 8mm, SN 79326
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      #361894 - 12/02/22 08:00 PM

Dan'l. Fraser & Co. - Edinburgh, Mauser Take Down, 7.65 x 53




66 cm unscrewable barrel, front sight with hinged night sight, express sight with 2 additional hinged rear sight blades, Mauser system case with small case head, engraved with marginal engraving and small arabesques, thumbhole, Swedish style lock with reduced sash safety, lock tensioner, flat bolt handle, modified magazine inscribed "FITTED WITH EDWARD'S PATENT MAGAZINE", on it a left cut off lever, double set trigger, disassembly screw on left side of case head, forend detachable with Deeley latch, disassembly function hindered by later inserted mounting bases (stock must be removed for disasGerman claw mountedbly), walnut stock, pistol grip, oval cheek piece, horn cap 35.5 cm, strap lugs, BJ circa 1900, condition 3.

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...;currentpos=148


Mauser 98 Humbert, 404 Jeffery







59 cm barrel, open sight with 2 additional rear sight blades, wing safety, system without thumbhole, direct trigger, hinged cover magazine with engraving "Marc~404-Jefferey ~ Pechenart", ebony stock end with horn inlay, fishnaut with seam optics on the edge, walnut stock extended to 40cm, rubber butt plate, Belgian proof, year of manufacture not visible, condition 3

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      #361899 - 12/02/22 08:27 PM

This 8mm has a very nicely grained stock. So much nicer than the blank planks we see today.

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      #361906 - 12/02/22 10:28 PM

not 8 mm - 7,65x53 belgian

yes, the wood is absolutely first class, what me surprised is the germanic double set trigger

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #362190 - 18/02/22 06:07 AM

10,75x68, SN 118409
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      #363168 - 07/03/22 07:36 AM

sold for 5055 euro


here is an original barrel for a 10,75x68 Mauser Oberndorf rifle
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      #363185 - 07/03/22 04:55 PM

Any way to determine the chambering of this gun by the single visible mark in the pictures:

https://bid.wardsauctions.com/Non-Restri...-Chec_i44455452

Very cool looking gun, not something you see a lot in these parts

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      #363188 - 07/03/22 06:55 PM

yes, 2,75 Gramm Gewehr Blättchenpulver is the proof load for the 8x57I

post it where it belongs http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=363187&page=0&vc=1#Post363187

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      #363809 - 23/03/22 04:21 PM

B model in 10,75x68, SN 109864
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Mauser-modele-B-1931-10-75-68-restaure-par-M-O-F-item-6994379.html













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      #363816 - 23/03/22 06:35 PM

Nice. Quite often 10.75s pop up?

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      #363821 - 23/03/22 11:36 PM

Nice!!! If only it could talk.

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      #363826 - 24/03/22 02:59 AM

compare the 10,75x68 with the 404 and 416 rigby coming on the market and you see what rifles they had in colonys.

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What a line up of rifles to have: .333; .375; .404, .500.

I assume the .375 is an H&H.

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      #363861 - 24/03/22 09:50 PM

Quote:

compare the 10,75x68 with the 404 and 416 rigby coming on the market and you see what rifles they had in colonys.



Lots of 10.75s?

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      #363869 - 25/03/22 04:09 AM

indeed

not everyone there was a famous big game hunter with an unlimited budget. yes, it was because of the price.

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      #363873 - 25/03/22 04:54 AM

7x57 made in 1911 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14731552
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      #365108 - 01/05/22 05:19 AM

african model in 3006 SN 114970 https://auctionet.com/de/2053643-bullet-...he-nr-se0109563













6,5x55, SN 119946, https://auctionet.com/de/2170931-bullet-...he-nr-gebraucht















Heinrich Barell Berlin 8x57I, SN 4933
https://auctionet.com/de/2120504-kulgeva.../images#image_3



















Christoph Funk Suhl 8x57I
https://auctionet.com/de/2130264-kulgeva.../images#image_3











again mauser 9,3x57, SN 52639
https://auctionet.com/de/2091751-kulgeva.../images#image_4













10,75x68, SN 26889
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #365114 - 01/05/22 07:55 AM

Some lovely pieces Lancaster, the last one in 10.75 has some strange marks on the stock, like it was put in a box with something loose & bashed its way around Africa!

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      #365115 - 01/05/22 09:11 AM

I really like the colour cased action, but the spoon-handled bolts kinda leave me a bit cold. Just a personal taste. Overall, beautiful rifles indeed.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #365116 - 01/05/22 12:08 PM

Of the auctionet items I like the 9.3x57 best. Looks like an honest gun and very early.

I also like the 10.75x68.

The 6.5 Swede would be very nice indeed if not altered with the scope mount. Same for the African if the bolt handle hadn’t been altered - also looks like a rebarrel due to the caliber marking, which I believe would be “7.6 US” if it were original.

But I’m not one to talk as I have a few original Mauser sporters that have been altered.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #365121 - 01/05/22 08:00 PM

All much desirable rifles, thank you for posting Lancaster.
I wonder what is the Thor Hammer marking on the knox form of the 30-06's barrel?
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Louis]
      #365123 - 01/05/22 09:30 PM

Nice rifles. On the 10.75 the length of the barrel seems unusual. Does anyone know how long it is?

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      #365131 - 02/05/22 02:50 AM

https://auctionet.com/de/2043893-kugelge...he-nr-se1046594

barrel length 70 cm, remember that SN 26889 is very low so less standardised than it was in later years

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      #365134 - 02/05/22 04:59 AM

Quote:

All much desirable rifles, thank you for posting Lancaster.
I wonder what is the Thor Hammer marking on the knox form of the 30-06's barrel?
Louis



yes, I am not sure if the 3006 barrel for the african mauser is original. polishing and the tone of the blueing seems a little bit different.

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      #365156 - 02/05/22 10:21 PM

Thanks lancaster I glazed over the 70 tube length in the description. I just felt it was longer at 70 (27.5").

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: LRF]
      #365215 - 04/05/22 09:04 PM

The 30-06 has been rebarelled, it says so in the description, it also says that the claw mount is loose

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      #365231 - 05/05/22 02:00 AM

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      #365318 - 08/05/22 02:17 AM

a very rare mauser 71/84 hunting rifle
https://antiquefirearms.com/product/extremely-rare-german-mauser-model-71-84-sporting-carbine/





































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      #365333 - 08/05/22 12:39 PM

What a great looking rifle that is!

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      #367426 - 03/07/22 01:39 AM

10,75x68, SN 105493 https://bestguns.de/Auktion/2830/Original-Mauser-98-Afrika-Hochwild-in-10,75x68.html











10,75x68, SN 27682 https://www.feine-jagdwaffen.de/Waffengalerie/Archiv/Repetierer#next

















10,75x68, SN 89478 https://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/arme/mauser-type-b-423/?lang=en

















10,75x68, SN 116311 https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=100807023



















10,75x68, SN 87911 https://www.collectorsfirearms.com/products/2552-mauser-custom-10-75x68-r9125.html

the stock is not original anymore














this one is older, sold in 2016 but with an interesting rear sight https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/c...31-c-ea44f67931

August Schüler/Suhl but the stock don't look like a typical Schüler rifle











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #367432 - 03/07/22 02:55 AM

Oodles of 10.75x68s!

Surely these would make nice driven game rifles even if "cannons"!

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      #367434 - 03/07/22 04:20 AM

Wow, that 1909 with the scope made my heart skip a couple of beats! Would love to hunt deer in thick woods with it!

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      #367751 - 14/07/22 05:14 AM

8x60 Magnum, SN 110275
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=17908929
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Waffenwerke Brünn(Brno) 8x57IS made in 1943 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=18378052#img











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      #367767 - 15/07/22 12:29 AM

That Brno made my heart pump a bit faster!

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      #367809 - 17/07/22 10:54 AM

SN 125237 in 8x57 IS with a WW 2 soviet sniper scope https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/kugelrepetierer/8x57-s--427580









hard to tell by the pics but looks like an original, if so 8x57, SN 33501
https://auctionet.com/de/2309011-m98-1909-sporter-kal-8x57is-33501/images#image_2







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      #368295 - 13/08/22 08:49 PM

to give you something to cry about the beautyful Brno Stutzen sold for only 555 euro while I was in holidays


Waffenwerke Brünn(Brno) 8x57IS made in 1943 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=18378052#img



missing the wedge but otherwise a nice example of a suhl made mauser in 10,75x68
http://bazar.hunting-shop.cz/inzerat/582904-mauser-98-ferlach-raze-10-75x68/













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      #371417 - 13/11/22 05:59 AM

original SN 117756, 9,3x62 with the rare prewar zeiss zielacht on claw mount



















Georg Gibbs Mauser SN 6390once .318 Rimless NE, rework by Hartmann&Weiss- now .270 Win - maybe because of a bad barrel https://www.naturabuy.fr/CARABINE-CHASSE...em-5493040.html

























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      #372164 - 10/12/22 12:12 AM

10,75 x68, SN 106010
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9x57, SN49240
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      #372684 - 27/12/22 06:13 PM

simple basic stutzen in 8x57 made post war by schultz&larsen https://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/mauser-jagtriffel-model-98-cal-8-x-57-js/i6318148/

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      #372700 - 28/12/22 05:26 AM

SN49240 might simply be a typeG cut back a little?

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9x57, SN 37116
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      #373632 - 30/01/23 06:10 PM

not your common mauser, a springfield in 10,75x68 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19004128

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      #373650 - 31/01/23 04:05 AM

That's a nifty rear sight even if it's not adjustable for elevation.

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      #373679 - 01/02/23 04:18 AM

Got these pics via email two weeks ago: Another such 10.75x68 rifle on a 03 Springfield action, recently auctioned in Sveden. Apparently built by the same Zella – Mehlis shop. Proofed September 1931 by the Z-M proofhouse. Maker’s serial number 24, while the one shown above is 25.

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      #373680 - 01/02/23 04:38 AM

Thanks Axel. This one seems to have the standard rear sight instead of a peep.

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      #373682 - 01/02/23 04:50 AM

2 very interesting 10.75x68's. I like how the darker heart wood on the Springfield actioned rifle's butt from comb to heel, almost match the angles of the darkened wrist checkering.

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      #373684 - 01/02/23 05:06 AM

wonder where they came from, old WW 1 booty? the rifle from sweden was for elk hunting.

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      #373685 - 01/02/23 05:58 AM

I guess the first rifle came from Sveden to the USA too, as that peep sight is a design often found on prewar Svedish rifles. Certainly both were intended for elk = moose hunting. During the interwar years, there were several German rifles built on unusual, former “WW1 enemy” bolt actions. F.i., I have seen 3 such rifles built on type 30 “hook safety” Jap. Arisaka actions. And there are many Austrian hunting rifles on Italian Mannlicher-Carcano and Rumanian Mannlicher actions, sometimes combined with Mauser type bottom metal. Such actions came from unusable military rifles, surrendered or battlefield pickups from WW1. Such actions were probably even cheaper than stripped ex-military Mauser actions.
Here the actions come from an early American M 1903 Springfield, most likely battlefield pick-ups from early 1918. As the .30-06 cartridge was unknown and unavailable in Europe, only the action was salvaged and scrubbed off all original US markings.
The actions were rebarreled with a round, ribbed barrel and restocked, most likely by a small Zella – Mehlis shop. It was proofed by the Zella – Mehlis proofhouse 9.31 = September 1931, gun number 254 proofed that month. 24 and 25 are most likely the serial numbers of the gunsmith. The rifle with a bore/land diameter of 10.1 mm and proofed for a service load with a steel jacketed 22.5 g = 347 gr bullet, it is certainly in 10.75x68, the only such cartridge widely availble in 1931. What’s unusual here: The CROWN + crown/N proofmarks show, it was proofed using the pre-WW1 “4000 atm proof powder”. The use of these proofs usually ended in he early 1920s. Maybe the Z-M proofhouse still had some leftover 10.75x68 proof cartridges in 1931?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: JDL]
      #373686 - 01/02/23 06:08 AM

Quote:

That's a nifty rear sight even if it's not adjustable for elevation.


BTW, those Svedish peep sights are adjustable for windage and elevation. The bottom part slides sideways in it's dovetail while the aperture is screwed into the slide. So the peep is adjustable for elevation in half turn steps. Both parts are locked by tiny set screws. I have such a sight on a B-type Mauser in 9.3x62.

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      #373687 - 01/02/23 07:13 AM

Could it be 10,75x57 ? They called it "potato thrower". I have seen quite many this caliber rifle only in Sweden. All of them were Mauser 98's.

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      #373691 - 01/02/23 08:18 AM

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Could it be 10,75x57 ? They called it "potato thrower".


Quite unlikely. By 1931 the 10.75x57 was almost dead. It was essentially a pre-WW1 number. Rifle #24 was described as a x68, while #25 was shot with old RWS 10.75x68 loads.

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These rifles would sell for several times that here.

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Quote:

Quote:

That's a nifty rear sight even if it's not adjustable for elevation.


BTW, those Svedish peep sights are adjustable for windage and elevation. The bottom part slides sideways in it's dovetail while the aperture is screwed into the slide. So the peep is adjustable for elevation in half turn steps. Both parts are locked by tiny set screws. I have such a sight on a B-type Mauser in 9.3x62.



Thanks for this information. So it's similar in operation to the NECG peep sight. I could see it was adjustable for windage but, couldn't see the elevation mechanism and assumed the front sight was for elevation.

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7x57 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19084034













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      #375768 - 02/04/23 02:59 AM

not your common hunting rifle, a turkish 1887 mauser in 9,5x60R, very rare and maybe captured by an italian in the italo - turkish war of 1911 in lybia

https://www.czernys.com/asta-129/?o=103351






















a hard to find mauser rifle because the turks cancel this model when they see the 1889 belgisch mauser rifle and ask for this

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7x57 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19084034









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Quote:

not your common hunting rifle, a turkish 1887 mauser in 9,5x60R, very rare and maybe captured by an italian in the italo - turkish war of 1911 in lybia

https://www.czernys.com/asta-129/?o=103351


a hard to find mauser rifle because the turks cancel this model when they see the 1889 belgisch mauser rifle and ask for this



Something different.

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      #375784 - 02/04/23 09:05 PM

in Mausers eye the 9,5x60R was the peak of blackpowder cartridges, the maximum you get out of the black stuff

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      #376233 - 23/04/23 03:24 AM

1942 proofed Waffenwerke Brünn (Brno) stutzen in 7x57
https://www.lauritz.com/en/auction/waffenwerke-bruenn-fuldskaeftet-jagtriffel-cal-7-x-57/i6365086/













Mauser 66 S in 30 06 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19136014























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      #376257 - 24/04/23 06:56 AM

Any Aussies seen the 7x57 on used guns? As usual there’s the frustrating lack of photos and info, but to me it’s clearly been restocked? Quite a bit of money for a non-original rifle…

https://usedguns.com.au/gun/419636/

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      #376259 - 24/04/23 08:11 AM

Might get $1,000.00 for that rifle here at a gun show. but likely not.

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      #376274 - 24/04/23 02:14 PM

yep, price is over the top
I would not pass sentence about the stock because the pic is realy to small.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #376277 - 24/04/23 08:21 PM

You’re both right about the price, but it’s Australia so you need to at least double your North American prices. However, $4k+ is too far. Yes the photo is crap, but the figure looks too fancy to me and the shape of the schnabel doesn’t look pronounced enough - or did stock design vary that much on Type Bs in the late ‘30s?

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      #376279 - 25/04/23 03:24 AM

I uploaded the picture to my desk-top, than enlarged it as big as I could, using the Ctrl and + keys. There is no schnabble that I can see. It has a rounded-up forend tip.

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      #376292 - 25/04/23 07:29 AM

Quote:

I uploaded the picture to my desk-top, than enlarged it as big as I could, using the Ctrl and + keys. There is no schnabble that I can see. It has a rounded-up forend tip.


I did the same. Sorry DarylS, but apparently you have not seen many original Mauser, Oberndorf type B rifles. They did not have a pronounced “Schnabel” foreend. There is just a very slight flare at the tip. The tips are cut off with a curved cut, straight in plan but curved up-down. Looking at the enlarged photo as you did, I see a typical post-1912 to 1945 Mauser B stock with the uncheckered foreend and the rounded, seen from the side, tip. Here are pics of four B Mausers, all with their original factory stocks.

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      #376340 - 26/04/23 09:48 AM

Nice looking rifles. I particularly like the last two. The next to last looks like a 9.3 or 10.75?

The B can be as attractive as the A, depending on the particular rifle.

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      #376374 - 28/04/23 03:48 AM

10,75x68, SN 109864
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      #376378 - 28/04/23 06:51 AM

Quote:

have not seen many original Mauser, Oberndorf type B rifles. They did not have a pronounced “Schnabel” foreend. There is just a very slight flare at the tip. The tips are cut off with a curved cut, straight in plan but curved up-down. Looking at the enlarged photo as you did, I see a typical post-1912 to 1945 Mauser B stock with the uncheckered foreend and the rounded, seen from the side, tip.

your post is probably better directed at me, as he was only replying to my comment. I realise the image I had in my head of a Type B fore end was out, not sure why as I’ve looked at a lot of pictures of them but never never seen one in the flesh. Did Oberndorf ever checker the fore end anywhere on a type b?

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      #376379 - 28/04/23 06:52 AM

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The B can be as attractive as the A, depending on the particular rifle.

I might be alone here, but grain aside I generally prefer the look of a B over an A

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      #376382 - 28/04/23 07:46 AM

Imho, that is a mite highly priced for the condition.

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      #376383 - 28/04/23 07:54 AM

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Did Oberndorf ever checker the fore end anywhere on a type b?


Standart model Bs had uncheckered foreends, like the first 3 rifles I posted above. But sometimes you may find checkered foreends, 4th rifle or the 10.75 above. I don’t know if these were special order factory options or added by a retailer aftermarket . The literature, catalogs or the books on Mausers, give no definite answer.

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      #376391 - 28/04/23 08:57 PM

Thanks guys

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Wedgetail]
      #376399 - 29/04/23 03:31 AM

The relatively subtle schnabel fore-end tip on the Type B is worthy of a discussion thread of its own.

The rounded, slightly flared tip with barely perceptible keel on the underside fits the thumb and fore-finger of the left hand perfectly, and is clearly designed to be gripped accordingly to allow the rifle to be pulled into the shoulder. Hence there is no need for checkering as the grip is at the schnabel.

I had a serious misunderstanding of schnabel fore-ends until I acquired a Type B and started shooting it seriously. Something of an epiphany to quickly discover the schnabel's true purpose!

Now I laugh when I see the oversized donkey-dick schnabels on some rifles offered for sale these days!

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      #376412 - 29/04/23 05:14 AM

belgian made hunting rifle in 10,75x68 with a full stock
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Tres-atypique-carabine-artisanale-Belge-10-75x68-item-10406100.html



















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      #376413 - 29/04/23 06:39 AM

I like seeing rifles stocked for the use of the sights provided on the gun.

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      #376425 - 29/04/23 08:53 PM

Quote:

The relatively subtle schnabel fore-end tip on the Type B is worthy of a discussion thread of its own.


I’m up for that… you make some great points, I’ll see if the mods can move the relevant comments over

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      #376574 - 07/05/23 06:21 PM

9,3x62, SN 118557
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      #376581 - 07/05/23 11:53 PM

Very nice 9.3 x 62

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      #376937 - 25/05/23 05:28 AM

a Marholdt-Peterlongo 7x64 https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8567002/#







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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #377011 - 28/05/23 01:48 PM

till now without a bid https://auctionet.com/de/2727212-bullet-...-98-kaliber-375
„Made by P. Brunet from Gastinne Renette for DF Sheil Jr.", .375 H&H



















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #377091 - 01/06/23 08:17 AM

There is a nice looking Rigby Mauser 7 x 57 cased at the Amoskeag auction on Saturday the 3rd Auction 138 lot number 50 estimate $7000-$9000

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      #377286 - 13/06/23 09:41 AM

sold for $15600 US

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: sbs470]
      #377288 - 13/06/23 02:06 PM

crispy price for a bolt action

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #378770 - 20/08/23 04:14 AM

8x57, SN 50742 https://auctionet.com/de/2966937-mauser-oberndorf-mit-kaliber-98-8x57is-50742



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #378910 - 26/08/23 09:00 PM

original mauser 10,75x68 with full stock, SN not visible on the pics
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Vends-tres-rare-Mauser-98k-grande-chasse-calibre-10-5-item-10833381.html











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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #378981 - 30/08/23 08:00 AM

For any of our French speaking members. Is this available at a fixed 1500 Euro cost, or is that where the auction starts. This looks to be an S type sporter. Would this be importable to the US? Thanks

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: LSHopper]
      #378988 - 30/08/23 06:49 PM

1500 euros fixed cost, not auction.

However, I must warn that NaturaBuy is not an option for foreigners to buy directly from them.

You have to try to get in touch with the seller by asking a question in order to then possibly be able to discuss a purchase. Everything then depends on the will of the seller, and many are not very willing for an export. Even buying something from Germany is difficult, and we are still in the EU. Therefore I don't know how things are with an export to the USA, there is also the problem of the language with people who don't always speak English.

I speak from personal experience as I tried to contact this seller to discuss the price of this rifle. The seller did not reply.

https://www.naturabuy.fr/AUGUSTE-FRANCOT...em-8219710.html

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: grandveneur]
      #378992 - 31/08/23 02:06 AM

Ok. Thanks for the info.

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      #378993 - 31/08/23 03:58 AM

language problem become less than before. sometimes ago I had a question to someone in france and make the mail with translating from german (or any other european language) into french ( or any other european language) with https://www.deepl.com/translator. the other guy doesn't seems to notice this was made with a translator answer my question perfect.
the translating programs become better every week and deepl is maybe the best now.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #378999 - 31/08/23 10:03 PM

There is no real problem exporting to the USA or Australia, an operation that we do routinely.
However, you must find a professional gunsmith who will take care of the acquisition of the rifle in France and who will manage all the documentation and costs linked to exportation.
Finally, and this is not the least concern, you must be extremely careful with this kind of announcement that remains vague as to the condition of the weapon.
The choice of relatively blurry photos and description should raise alarm.
In this case, to be myself interested in this type of weapon, I would not even spend a thousand euros on this Mauser whose condition is not as good as described (!)

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DORLEAC]
      #379002 - 01/09/23 01:05 AM

Holt's auction house in the UK may be able to arrange pick up from various European locations and freight of a firearm to Australia. They have one or two Australian agents who can then take import delivery.

David Handyside in SA is one Holt's agent. I can pass on contact details if PMed.

Obviously for a fee, export costs, import costs etc. Discuss the possibility with the agent. Firearms might be shipped with a regular auctioned lot.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #379039 - 02/09/23 07:57 AM

The photos don’t appear to show the caliber marking and I wasn’t aware that Mauser made the Type S in any caliber larger than 9x57. Jon Speed apparently is not either. See pages 158-60 of his book. If this rifle is really caliber 10.75x68 it is either a rarity or a modified rifle.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #379047 - 02/09/23 05:20 PM

Holland &Holland .375 NE Mag. https://auctionet.com/de/2957808-holland-holland-cal-375h-h-1735-se0114077















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #379541 - 22/09/23 08:01 AM

In the photos that .375 has the red/plumb colour of a rifle that was re-blued way back. It might just be the color balance of the photo. The markings look sharp. Is the forearm a normal fit or been free floated?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: JHeath]
      #379568 - 23/09/23 06:10 AM

Nice rifle, but the rear sight base is crooked and damn they’re ugly bases

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Wedgetail]
      #379571 - 23/09/23 09:56 AM

Is that really an H&H stock?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Wedgetail]
      #379573 - 23/09/23 11:26 AM

At least the front base is crooked too so there shouldn't be any strain on the scope.
You wouldn't want to fit an early reticule moving scope either as god knows where the reticule would sit in the view once shot in. Real botched job if ever there was one

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: eagle27]
      #379575 - 23/09/23 02:13 PM

Imagine doing shit like that to any rifle let alone a H&H, some people are unreal. A pair of aluminium Weaver bases worth $000 to that action. You cant get uglier.

Still it could be salvaged and made into something very nice.


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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #379576 - 23/09/23 03:27 PM

Nothing about this rifle looks right to me. Fortunately there are many members on this site with far more experience than me.

To me the rifle looks like a bit of a Frankenstein rifle. The RHS of the action looks like a sporterised P14, The LHS of the action has a Mauser type thumb relief. The bolt looks like a P14 straightened and re-welded. The stock is not of the quality one would expect from H&H. The while spacer recoil pad doesn't appear correct for the era. Has someone simply thrown together a whole lot of bits?

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      #379577 - 23/09/23 08:12 PM

if I understand correctly they had some very bad years in the 1950s/60s

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #379580 - 23/09/23 08:39 PM

I agree with Hunter. The bolt release on that rifle looks like a P14/P1917 rather than Mauser.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: fjrdoc]
      #379581 - 23/09/23 09:25 PM

Yes, H&H made rifles on the P14 action.

Those scope bases are hideous!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #379817 - 04/10/23 06:22 AM

Sauer & Sohn 8x57I https://auctionet.com/de/3039665-jp-sauer-sohn-pirchbuchse-mit-kaliber-98-8x57i-208120









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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #379903 - 08/10/23 09:19 PM

https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19306409
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #379912 - 09/10/23 02:35 AM

Apparently someone bought it.

Probably a collector, because this weapon is not very practical for big game hunting.

As for the cartridge 600 Nitro Express and big game hunting, that can be discussed.

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      #379915 - 09/10/23 04:30 AM

think 7500 euro is a reasonable price

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #380160 - 18/10/23 05:12 AM

this looks to me like a pre 1914 made rifle, Kettner 8x57
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8768963/#





10,75x68 , SN 92722 made for Manton & Co Calcutta
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #380190 - 18/10/23 11:50 PM

WOW.......I'd love to hear the stories if that Type A could talk!

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      #380192 - 19/10/23 03:33 AM

Can anyone explain the optics on the .600 and the Kettner?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #380193 - 19/10/23 03:41 AM

Pm the .600 NE, what looks to be a low powered scope mounted backwards: "Aimpoint Hunter H34L"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #380195 - 19/10/23 05:23 AM

on the kettner is a much later made zeiss diatal 6x42

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      #380196 - 19/10/23 07:55 AM

Quote:

on the kettner is a much later made zeiss diatal 6x42



Why dies it extend so far back?

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      #380197 - 19/10/23 07:56 AM

Quote:

Pm the .600 NE, what looks to be a low powered scope mounted backwards: "Aimpoint Hunter H34L"



Thanks. Ugly optic.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #380198 - 19/10/23 08:23 AM

The scope on the Mauser, has a telescoping rubber attachment on it's Ocular lens.
The scope could only be moved forward by about 1/2" by the looks of the front dovetail.
On a 10.75x68, I would not want to shoot that rifle.
With the drop to the heel, appearing to be sighted for irons, with such a high mounted scope, the end of your chin would be the only cheek weld.
There would be quite some head movement with recoil. No, I would not want to shoot that rifle equipped as it is.
I do like the heads-up attitude this rifle requires when shooting with a scope, just that the scope is too far back as well as having that rubber eye-piece that would impact around the eye upon recoil. NOPE! WOULD NOT SHOOT IT AS IT IS.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #380205 - 19/10/23 01:13 PM

Really stupid attachment. A rubber eye piece. Right on the eye. Why? Any purpose?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #380213 - 20/10/23 04:13 AM

Exactly - & on a gun that kicks some.

I've seen them on the 3/8" eye relief Immersive scopes on non-recoiling air rifles to eliminate side light into the sight picture.
There was one on the 1-40 Immersive scope I purchased for my Condor .25., however I dislike them and took it off. I prefer not to have the rubber eye-cup.
The ocular lens cover has written on it "NON RECOILING RIFLES ONLY"

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #380231 - 21/10/23 05:09 AM

SN 120998, 9,3x62
https://auctionet.com/sv/2877862-kulgeva...tillv-nr-120998











SN 70609, 8x57 Stutzen with 60 cm long barrel

https://auctionet.com/sv/2969355-kulgeva.../images#image_1









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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #380639 - 05/11/23 06:56 AM

rigby mauser in .275 rigby, scope is rigby but comes form another rifle, must be fitted into the scope mount










https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/repetiererbuechse/raritaet-rigby-mauser--508330

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #380689 - 07/11/23 03:19 AM

Love those old Rigbys!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: degoins]
      #380851 - 02/12/23 07:02 AM

Sauer&Sohn Mauser in 9,3x57 , maybe drill out from 8x57 or 9x57 and reworked but looks no such bad
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19371680#img





























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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #380855 - 02/12/23 09:43 AM

Pretty cool and with a wedge on the forend. Is it functional, and if so, why?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #380870 - 02/12/23 08:37 PM

the wedge was a relict from the old muzzle loader when this was the common method to fix the barrel in the stock. more or less common on new rifles up to the great war than disappear between the wars into nirvana.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #380876 - 03/12/23 05:06 AM

I asked if it was functional, due to normal double guard (action) screws.
I do not see it as an improvement, visually, or functionally is all, I guess.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #380878 - 03/12/23 08:24 AM

well ,it work but it was not realy necessary anymore and so its gone over the years

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      #382037 - 20/01/24 02:06 AM

SN 92388, caliber 250 - 3000 Savage
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19445021
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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #382040 - 20/01/24 04:43 AM

Wow, I like that one!

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      #382043 - 20/01/24 05:56 PM

That’s a Kurz action.

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      #382081 - 22/01/24 04:25 AM

7x57, SN 125423 https://www.waffenhandelimspessart.de/products/details/4757/





















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      #382085 - 22/01/24 06:52 AM

Twilight work here for this one I reckon!

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      #382086 - 22/01/24 08:29 AM

Interesting trigger guard for a Mauser

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      #382104 - 23/01/24 05:01 AM

think I have seen this before, proof is november 1941

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      #382390 - 07/02/24 03:51 PM

Franz Kettner Köln & Suhl mid 1920s 8x60S build with a civil mauser action, incredible condition
https://www.gebrauchtwaffen-spezialist.de/Langwaffen-oxid/Mod-Mauser-98-Jagd-oxid.html











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      #382395 - 08/02/24 07:00 AM

Not wrong there Lancaster!!!
Just like brand new.

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      #382400 - 08/02/24 08:09 AM

Amazing condition.

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      #383595 - 24/03/24 07:13 AM

J.P. Sauer&Sohn in 8x57I https://auctionet.com/de/3411355-jp-sauer-sohn-pirchbuchse-m-98-kal-8-x-57i-208120









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      #383622 - 25/03/24 07:07 AM

Love those old claw mounts Lancaster, they would have to be all filed in by hand to fit perfectly!

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      #383767 - 30/03/24 05:43 AM

Holland & Holland handmade rifle caliber 275 Magnum Rimless. Weapon #1673, Barrel marked Holland & Holland 98 New Bond Street London
https://www.marambat-malafosse.com/en/lot/107492/14012688-nice-holland-holland-handmade?search=&











Otto Bock 9,3x62 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19517182


















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      #384005 - 08/04/24 04:21 AM

https://usedguns.com.au/gun/591484/
this is fun but I suspect you find an original Plezier rifle for the money



" Cased. Near new condition, Musgrave made Anglo-Boer War Commemorative Mauser bolt action Plezier rifle, commissioned by the War Museum of Boer Republics. This is one of 10 different rifles made to commemorate 10 various battles of the Anglo Boer war. No two are the same. Truly RARE. Made in 1986 as per the date on the barrel. Serial number for this rifle is “03” in calibre 7x57; 28inch tapered octagonal barrel; near new bore; wedge mounted and key adjustable blade front sight, tangent rear sight with graduations to 1100m; blue/black finish to metal. Floor plate, trigger guard, action and barrel ends are profusely engraved with foliate & acanthus design, with elaborate border gold inlay. Anglo Boreoorlog 333 (1899-1902) Gedenkmauser inlaid in gold to barrel ; also to barrel N.R. ABO-03 CAL 7mm Mauser Musgrave Vervaardigers Bloemfontein 1986; action rail Mod Mauser 1896 Ludw Loewe & Co Berlin inlaid in gold; floor plate with Stormberg 10 December 1899 with medallion engraved Vryheid Immigratie also in gold. Bolt head and handle engraved in the same style, also with elaborate gold inlay; beautiful wood stocked in the typical Plezier 96 style; steel butt plate similarly engraved & gold inlaid. Presented in full length elephant hide case; burgundy velour lined; gold embossed leather label. Serious potential buyers, please ring me. Those wanting photos are welcome after we talk first.
Price: $11800 Price Reduced "

https://usedguns.com.au/gun/584887/











"8x64S Made in December of 1941 , by Hermann Ansorg , 29 reissmann strasse, Zella Mehlis, Germany. Fully custom small ring Mauser with 20” barrel, octogonal to round ,Shiny chamber and bore, crisp rifling. Full wood stutzen with open sights and claw mounts with 1" rings. Comes new CH4D two die set. Light weight at 7lbs with the claw mounted 4x Pecar Berlin Champion scope, 6lbs 4 oz without. Action has 60% scroll engraving coverage, double set triggers, butter knife bolt handle, two position safety, floor plate and barrel are all heavily engraved with a light scroll pattern. Metal finish in 95% plus condition."

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      #384181 - 15/04/24 01:56 AM

S&S 8x57I, SN 183404 https://www.auktionshuset.com/en/auction/sauer-sohn-suhl-hunting-rifle-cal-8x57j/i6452249/











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      #384390 - 22/04/24 02:30 AM

6,5x54 Kurz https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19555149













there is a lot of fine mausers coming in auction walter borg/sweden next time

8x57 SN 47396 https://auctionet.com/de/3414413-kugelpi...js-ref-nr-47396















8x57IS SN 126068 https://auctionet.com/de/3256165-repetit...-kaliber-8x57js













9,3x62, SN 108889 https://auctionet.com/de/3414468-kugelge...62-ex-nr-108889















9,3x62, SN 113438 https://auctionet.com/de/3200041-repeate...-bridge-kaliber













9x57, SN 77173 https://auctionet.com/de/3414425-kugelge...-nr-77173-se-nr













9,3x62, SN 120998 https://auctionet.com/de/2877862-repetit...-3x62-nr-120998











10,75x68, SN 113441 https://auctionet.com/de/3200040-repeate...75x68-nr-113441















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      #384612 - 01/05/24 05:22 AM

thats another unicum https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=331

8x57 sold by H.C.G. Stein Nachf - Hamburg





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      #384628 - 02/05/24 03:32 AM

because its a copy https://hindmanauctions.com/items/griffi...e-on-side-mount
ending yesterday, sold for 4800





















"*Griffin & Howe Model 1903 with Carl Zeiss Jena Scope on Side Mount
.30-06. 24" barrel length. SN: 941. Blued metal finish with jeweled bolt, highly figured walnut semi-pistol grip stock, and engraved metal work. Bolt action internal magazine fed repeating rifle that features Griffin & Howe's side-mounted scope base marked GRIFFIN & HOWE/PAT. APPL. FOR within a fine spiral scroll border on its upper surface. Both scope rings feature similar engraving and secure a CARL ZEISS/JENA/Zielklein scope with serial number 56055. Further spiral scrollwork adorns the left flank of the scope mount and base. Top of the barrel features the maker marking No 941 GRIFFIN & HOWE, INC. NEW YORK. The iron sights are usable beneath the optic, and consist of a matted rear notch sight with three folding notches paired with a fully hooded front blade on a matted front ramp. The barrel surrounding the front sight base features border scrollwork followed by a flowing floral motif. All stock screws feature sunburst engraving with the reinforcement screw on the forend showing a sunflower motif. The magazine floorplate features the initials ESP engraved in high relief and enclosed with floral border scrollwork within diamond patterns. Schnabel forend mounts a horn cap, and both the wrist and forend feature bordered multipoint checkering with 24 lines per inch. Wood furniture shows a varnished finish overall. A cheek pad is molded into the left side of the butt, and a silver oval plate appears on the toe of the stock. The trapdoor buttplate features deep ports for cleaning equipment with fine checkering overall within decorative scrollwork. Rifle mounts a GRIFFIN & HOWE INC/NEW YORK marked leather sling patterned after the Model 1907 type suspended from engraved sling swivels."

and sold for 4200 https://hindmanauctions.com/items/108608...-j-unertl-scope



















"**Griffin & Howe .22 Caliber Model 1903 with J. Unertl Scope
.22 caliber. 26" barrel length. SN: 1560. Blued metal finish with jeweled bolt set in a highly figured walnut semi-pistol grip stock mounting a J. UNERTL scope on a one-piece scope base. Bolt-action repeating rifle fed by an internal magazine. The top of the barrel displays the manufacturer marking No 1560 GRIFFIN & HOWE INC. NEW YORK forward of the scope base. The scope base itself features spiral scroll embellishments along the flanks of the forward ring and the rear mounting socket. Barrel shank is finely matted with border scroll flowing along the flanks. Initials ESP are deep relief engraved on the magazine floorplate and enclosed by spiral scroll borders that transition to sunburst patterns over the screw heads. Silver oval plate is installed in the toe of the stock with a cheek pad molded along the left side. A horn forend cap adorns the stock with both the wrist and forend featuring bordered multipoint checkering with 24 lines per inch. Buttplate is finely checkered with further scroll border along the edges. Item mounts a leather sling of the Model 1907 pattern, and was completed with no iron sighs and a low over bore scope mounting solution. The scope retains its screw-in lens covers and remains functional."

still going https://hindmanauctions.com/items/10699914-rf-sedgley-1903-sporter-220-swift

RF Sedgley 1903 Sporter .220 Swift


















Springfield Model 1903 Customized by R.F. Sedgley https://hindmanauctions.com/items/10699963-springfield-model-1903-customized-by-r-f-sedgley


















".220 Swift. 24" barrel length. SN: 121801. Blued metal finish overall with polished bolt set in a walnut semi-pistol grip stock with Schnabel forend and bordered checkering to the wrist and forend. Bolt action internal box magazine fed rifle mounting LYMAN 48 adjustable rear peep and front blade sights in addition to scope mounting blocks to the forward receiver and mid barrel. Receiver displays factory marking U.S./ROCK ISLAND/ARSENAL/MODEL 1903 followed by the serial number. Barrel is struck R.F. SEDGLEY INC. PHILA. PA. U.S.A. followed by caliber marking 220 SWIFT and an older caliber mark reading CAL. 22 W.C.F./HORNET. Sedgley's circle S proof mark is struck into the rear barrel on the left side. Serial number on the bolt handle reads 518617. Rifle mounts front and rear sling loops and a steel buttplate with widow's peak."

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      #384745 - 09/05/24 06:37 PM

Bolt action rilfe J. P. Sauer & Sohn - Suhl Mauser 98 cal. 9.3 x 62 SN 91310
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...p;currentpos=34















"Barrel length 60 cm (23.5“), stock length 35 cm (14“), total length 110 cm (43.5“), weight 3.55 kg, built around 1905 German proof, restored condition 2nd octagonal barrel with transition to round barrel, Wedge-shaped front sight, continuous matt rib engraved with „J. P. Sauer & Sohn Suhl“, express sight with two additional folding rear sight blades, contra-claw mount on ​​the receiver and barrel, mounted rifle scope without manufacturer information, color-hardened parts like receiver, integrated center stock magazine with hinged cover and lock, polished breech and bolt handle, trigger plate including trigger guard, magazine cover and grip cap color hardened, German set trigger, wing safety on the lock, walnut stock with fine checkering, pistol grip, oval cheekpiece, sling swivel and horn butt cap. Originally delivered in caliber 8x57 I and modified to the more modern caliber 9.3x62 including restoration. In a linen-covered cassette with a canvas cover. It contains a cleaning rod, brush and oil bottle "

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      #385032 - 31/05/24 03:35 AM

Christoph Funk/ Suhl 8x57 SN 6690
https://auctionet.com/de/3321476-christoph-funk-mod-98-kal-8x57-tonnr-6690







8x51, SN 72738
https://www.icollector.com/MAUSER-OBERNDORF-MODEL-S-SPORTING-RIFLE_i52742556











8x60S SN 111852
https://auctionet.com/de/3524146-mauser-modell-98-kaliber-8x60s-bis-nr-111852-se-0118427



9,3x62 SN 118558
https://auctionet.com/de/3545287-mauser-modell-98-kaliber-9-3x62-bis-no-118558



thats what they look like - swedish factory made sporter in 8x54, old military swedisch mauser the barrel drilled out for 8mm bullets
https://auctionet.com/de/3320794-carl-gustaf-kaliber-8x54-tillv-nr-145980/images#image_1



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #385062 - 02/06/24 09:25 AM

This 404 Type A would look good in my safe
https://usedguns.com.au/gun/637847/











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      #385063 - 02/06/24 12:54 PM

Just under $10K US
Good price on that rifle IMO

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      #385066 - 02/06/24 04:18 PM

WT,

Looks good. Are you buying?

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      #385067 - 02/06/24 04:20 PM

L,

What's a 8x51, a .308 necked to 8mm?

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #385072 - 02/06/24 08:56 PM

Quote:

What's a 8x51, a .308 necked to 8mm?


The 8x51 K Mauser cartridge, old name M.88H, predates the .308 Winchester by about 50 years. It was a shortened version of the 8x57 I , M.88G, to fit into the Mauser K short action. The standard load used a 196 gr jacketed bullet at about 2100 fps. These light rifles were intended for shooting roe and fallow deer, being less destructive than the contemporary 8x57 I loads. At those pre-WW1 times a German hunter had little chance to ever see a red deer, let alone a wild boar or any other larger game.
Here is a scan from the 1904 DWM catalog, showing the case besides the 8x57 I one.

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      #385075 - 02/06/24 11:21 PM

Quote:

This 404 Type A would look good in my safe
https://usedguns.com.au/gun/637847/













before this get lost: Serial No: 93242

maybe one of them coming from india with the double rifles back in those days?

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      #385093 - 03/06/24 01:30 PM

Quote:

L,

What's a 8x51, a .308 necked to 8mm?




Yes it is. Many years ago I developed a load and loaded up a couple of packets of 8x51 rounds for a guy who had a Mauser K and reloading dies for the cartridge. I just ran 308 Win cases into the FL die and loaded them up using Norma 196gr .318" bullets the owner supplied. Can't recall the powder I used, probably 4064, but used heavy bullet 308Win data to get started and worked up an accurate load.

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Quote:

This 404 Type A would look good in my safe
https://usedguns.com.au/gun/637847/















Calibre/Item: 404 Jeffery

Make: Mauser Orbendorf
Model: Type A
Action: Magnum bolt
Scope: None
Serial No: 93242
Condition: Good
Phone: 0474738035
Price: $13750
Licence Number: 11202763
Advertised: 25/05/2024

Comment: A Genuine Mauser Orbendorf A Type sporting rifle. Single square bridge Magnum length action in 404 Jeffery. Rarely seen, let alone offered for sale. Restocked in recent years to the original Mauser pattern ( via pantograph ), and using the original furniture. Original stock comes with the rifle. Original patiinated finish to all metal with matching numbers. A proper pre war big game rifle in a classic cartridge. Suit the Orbendorf collector...or Big Game hunter. Plenty of additional pics to genuine buyers....please. Plice is plus post

Transferring Dealer: Queensland
Private Ad State: QLD

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      #385237 - 12/06/24 02:37 PM

8x60S , SN 115923













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #385242 - 12/06/24 09:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

This 404 Type A would look good in my safe
https://usedguns.com.au/gun/637847/















Calibre/Item: 404 Jeffery

Make: Mauser Orbendorf
Model: Type A
Action: Magnum bolt
Scope: None
Serial No: 93242
Condition: Good
Phone: 0474738035
Price: $13750
Licence Number: 11202763
Advertised: 25/05/2024

Comment: A Genuine Mauser Orbendorf A Type sporting rifle. Single square bridge Magnum length action in 404 Jeffery. Rarely seen, let alone offered for sale. Restocked in recent years to the original Mauser pattern ( via pantograph ), and using the original furniture. Original stock comes with the rifle. Original patiinated finish to all metal with matching numbers. A proper pre war big game rifle in a classic cartridge. Suit the Orbendorf collector...or Big Game hunter. Plenty of additional pics to genuine buyers....please. Plice is plus post

Transferring Dealer: Queensland
Private Ad State: QLD



Oh Boy this is nice!
Reminds me of a Parker Hale in 404J I saw many years ago - beats the PH hands down though!

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      #385643 - 07/07/24 02:39 AM

7x57 with a Zeiss zielechs, SN 123199

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      #386050 - 28/07/24 12:25 AM

rare "african model" in 10,75x68 SN 50609
70 cm long barrel
https://auctionet.com/de/3658507-mauser-modell-98-sport-safari-kaliber-10-75x68-produktnummer-50609



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      #386055 - 28/07/24 06:50 AM

This old girl has a 27 1/2" barrel, it would get 404 ballistics with 400gn pills

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      #386071 - 29/07/24 04:22 AM

Such a cool rifle!

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      #386072 - 29/07/24 05:13 AM

think its only the second in this configuration I have seen for sale

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      #386428 - 21/08/24 12:48 AM

Mauserwerke Oberndorf Chas. A. Heyer & Co Nairobi cal. 9.3 x 62 SN 104641











one of the 80s/90s Frankonia made Mauser 98 in 8x57 IS with a 20/76 shotgun barrel
sold for 1677 euro
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=19648757



































9,3x62, SN 102666
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...p;currentpos=28











7x57, SN 68355
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...p;currentpos=30











7x57 SN 121566
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...p;currentpos=33













7x57 ,SN 112297
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...p;currentpos=34













8x57IS, SN 55219
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...p;currentpos=35















Christoph Funk - Suhl Mauser 98 for Emilius Anschütz Zella Mehlis Kal. 8 x 68 S ?
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...mp;currentpos=6













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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #386433 - 21/08/24 06:07 AM

Boy those 9.3mm jobs had VERY slim barrels!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #386436 - 21/08/24 08:29 AM

So many questions....on the Frankonia rifle / shotgun, I assume it works like a pump action but how does it lock the " action ", What is the piece behind the bolt and how do you fire the shotgun ???

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: yumastepside]
      #386447 - 22/08/24 12:28 AM

to be honest I remember them only from early 1990s catalogs, never had one in my hands.

this looks like a grip, I would say turn the barrel, maybe 90°, then its unlocked and you pull the barrel forward.



this part here in the red circle



looks like it cock the firing pin of the shotgun action by hand when you turn it upright.
maybe the 98 bolt action must be in the decocked postion so the common trigger operated the shotgun firing pin then.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #386727 - 09/09/24 03:40 AM

8x60S, SN 125003 made in 1941
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19682359






















post war FN Herstal 10,75x68 made between 1950 -56
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-MAUSER-F-N-calibre-10-75-68-type-1924-item-8556729.html















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387093 - 06/10/24 05:55 PM

asking 6000 euro for such a plain and simple post war .275 rigby is imho a little bit over the top


























https://www.galeriedemars.fr/chasse/1083...ter-gb-xxe.html

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      #387194 - 12/10/24 04:52 AM

textbook example of a post war FN mauser in 1075x68 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19730919









































yes, I would like to have it

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387195 - 12/10/24 07:12 AM

Lovely piece of kit alright Lancaster!

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #387205 - 13/10/24 03:14 AM

Noice.

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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #387206 - 13/10/24 05:13 AM

its similar to the rifle on page 34 here only 6000 rifles later





don't thing Fabrique National made 33000 mauser hunting rifles
this are probably sporting guns of all types





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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387207 - 13/10/24 05:23 AM

this 404 Jef. looks also like a FN 10,75x68 was taken and rechamber into a 404 whats not a big problem. notice the style of the bolt handle, the rear sight and the position of the serial number on barrel and receiver.
the stock is not the very best replacement of the original one.
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-Mauser-98-Calibre-404-10-75x73--item-10883950.html















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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387208 - 13/10/24 07:06 AM

Yeah funny position of the numbers. Is that heavy grime on the front ring and Knox or marks from heavy use?

Here’s what looks like (?) an original Type B, molestered by some Neanderthal by rebarreling to 308 and altering the bolt handle. Either that or maybe a replacement bolt handle. Not quite sure what he means by short action - could it be a kurz? Or just an intermediate?

https://usedguns.com.au/gun/670108/



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Re: Mauser rifles at auctions [Re: Wedgetail]
      #387211 - 13/10/24 03:47 PM

on this little pic it looks to me like a real short action

Simson/Suhl 8x57I SN 22231
https://auctionet.com/de/3556229-kulgevar-simson-kal-8x57-troligtvis-i-nr-22231/images#image_1




orinal mauser 6,5x55 SN 117729
https://auctionet.com/de/3716471-deutsch...-kaliber-6-5x55









7x57 SN 56616
https://auctionet.com/de/3760855-eine-de...dell-98-kaliber









Christoph Funk Suhl 8x57I SN 651
https://auctionet.com/de/3716733-deutsch...-kaliber-8x57-i













8x60 Magnum SN 124420
https://auctionet.com/de/3716467-eine-de...dell-98-kaliber













9x57 SN 76544
https://auctionet.com/de/3760871-deutsch...aliber-9x57-ref










9,3x62 SN 117580
https://auctionet.com/de/3461967-kugelge...2-ref-nr-117580











John Rigby & Co 303 Brit. SN 3771
https://auctionet.com/de/3599147-kugelpi...x-nr-3771-se-nr















Leonard & Hyde New York .300 Holland & Holland Magnum SN 1936
https://auctionet.com/de/3597469-repetit...ber-300-holland






















Cogswell & Harrisson, .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Rimless SN 66564
https://auctionet.com/de/3597546-gewehr-...holland-holland










John Rigby & Co .400/350 (Rigby Express), SN 2685
https://auctionet.com/de/3597894-repeate...kaliber-400-350









10,75x68 SN 87406
https://auctionet.com/de/3463502-kugelge...x68-ex-nr-87406



















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