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Conor_90
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8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters
#378379 - 05/08/23 01:55 PM

Hello all, long time no see

Curious if any of our commercial oberndorf experts can enlighten me. Are factory offerings in 8x57 all .323 bores? What models were available in these chamberings? Anyone have pictures up show off? Any Canadians interested in selling one?

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Conor

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: Conor_90]
#378384 - 05/08/23 07:45 PM

I am no mauser expert but thinking the early ones have I bores. you can only be sure if it stamped "8x57 IS" without measure it.

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: lancaster]
#378414 - 06/08/23 09:23 AM

I'm no expert either but I have owned and measured, (slugged), several Mauser sporting rifles, pre-WWI and between the wars. All I have measured we definitely knew were pre-WWI were .318 groove diameter. Those from between the wars could be either .318 or .323. It seems those we were positive were proofed closer to the end of WWI were more likely to be .318 and the closer they got to the beginning of WWII for a proof date, .323 seemed dominant. That's just the experience of one guy and certainly not definitive.

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: sharps4590]
#378418 - 06/08/23 12:58 PM

Axel can better discuss this issue.

From what I know, commercial rifles built before WW2 were for 0.318" bullets. Many Mauser rifles were had a tapered bore (first 3cm or so) so that a 0.323" bullet could be fired in the rifle without a problem. The bullet would swage down in the taper.

I have a 1937 double rifle that is 0.323" at the chamber but tapers to 0.318" in about 3 cm. The prior owner shot 8x57SR. I shoot 8x57IR as I don't want to stress the double rifle.

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: 85lc]
#378429 - 06/08/23 05:40 PM

Conor:
Plenty of good info from knowledgeable folks, particularly kuduae, in answer to my similar query on this old thread:

Commercial Mauser Bore Codes

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: Marrakai]
#378460 - 07/08/23 11:00 AM

Thanks for the responses guys, looking at one with a n bore. Curious if anyone has reloaded for these and how it affects the brass life?

Quite a good deal on a 9x57 by the same seller, can't say it's not tempting but I am far from a skilled reloaded and very busy having returned to school in my 30s

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: Conor_90]
#378467 - 07/08/23 01:54 PM

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Curious if anyone has reloaded for these and how it affects the brass life?

I have reloaded PPU 8x57 brass many times for use in the Walter Locke & Co Type B Mauser referred to in the older thread.
Pressure is modest, and the brass is kept specific to the rifle so I neck-size only.
Because I use .323 projectiles and the rifle is throated accordingly, there is absolutely no issue.

All good!

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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: Marrakai]
#378924 - 27/08/23 10:23 AM

I have an Orberndorf B 8x57 proofed in 1912, the bore slugs .321, a .323 bullet slips easily in a fired case, so I just shoot factory 8x57 ammo.
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Re: 8x57 Mauser Oberndorf Sporters [Re: yamoon]
#378925 - 27/08/23 11:48 AM

That's the ticket. If a .323" bullet will enter a case neck of a ctg fired in THAT rifle it is safe to use IS ".323" bullets in that rifle.

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