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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #335529 - 16/12/19 11:10 AM

thats a really nice set. i ended up with a cleaning rod like yours when i bought an old gergory clanker. least i know its english.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: ducmarc]
      #335538 - 16/12/19 01:32 PM

Hello ducmarc,
Thanks for the reply.

Did your cleaning rod also have a leather pad on the end of the handle?

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #335616 - 18/12/19 08:53 AM

Hello All,

Here's the results from the last testing. I tested 5 different wad / card / bullet combinations. Groups measured 2-1/4" to 7" at 50 yards. Here's the best combination tested. Apparently this gun prefers a little harder bullet of 15:1 alloy, (BHN 11) and the heavier 790g Round Nose as compared to the 730g Hollow Point.

I'll be testing this load formula again with both HP and RN bullets to make sure the results are repeatable.



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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #335622 - 18/12/19 01:03 PM

It's always good to see progress!

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: tinker]
      #335629 - 18/12/19 11:37 PM

Well done Buckstix!
Another successful test(s)


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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: 93x64mm]
      #335641 - 19/12/19 03:59 AM

Success!

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: DarylS]
      #335801 - 25/12/19 05:06 AM

** UPDATE **

I now have crimping tools available for 28ga, 20ga, 12ga, and 10ga. PM me if interested.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #337171 - 29/01/20 05:36 PM

That is a cracking fine gun; remarkably similar to mine, but mine's not in nearly as nice condition, nor is it cased, much less with accessories. However, mechanically mine is sound and the bores are intact, making it a shooter.

I'm more than a little interested to see the results of your shooting: mine regulated with round balls, and grouped 4-5" at 50; shot patterns not worth a damn; had a few sample fosberry bullets, but could not get them anywhere close to regulating; perhaps I need to get a mould and play some more with those, as you are clearly having some success with them, and with a matching mould, clearly the gun was made to use such bullets.

Fine work, with a fine gun!

Edited by cadet (30/01/20 04:52 PM)


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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: cadet]
      #338897 - 10/03/20 12:07 AM

Hello cadet,
Thanks for the reply

I might push the velocity a bit higher, but I'm pretty much satisfied with the load shown in the target above.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #339626 - 01/04/20 03:32 AM

Buckstix, Nice work on bringing those groups together! Could you give us some dimensions. What is the bore dia, rifling depth and twist rate? Also OL size and dia of bullet?. Thanks, Ed

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: Longknife]
      #339672 - 02/04/20 09:39 AM

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Buckstix, Nice work on bringing those groups together! Could you give us some dimensions. What is the bore dia, rifling depth and twist rate? Also OL size and dia of bullet?. Thanks, Ed



Hello Longknife,
Thanks for the reply.

There is no depth to the rifling. This is an "oval-bore" = .725 x. 735 and the bullet matches at .735 as cast. Twist is 1 turn in 28".

I load brass cases using a special crimping tool I invented. I offer these in the classified section to forum members at $150.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=335500&an=0&page=0#Post335500

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #347189 - 26/11/20 11:14 AM

Another for comparison. https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101548927

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: Kynoch]
      #347803 - 12/12/20 09:10 AM

I've been making and selling a lot of my Custom Paradox Crimping tools ... Just made no. 30 for an 8 bore.



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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #365693 - 21/05/22 06:55 AM

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Here are the first range results. Not too impressive yet. But not a concern beause velocity for these should be 1000 fps to 1050 fps and and I'm at 855 fps. Increasing velocity should bring the shots together.






Any more luck with your testing Buck, did you get up to the desired velocity?


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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: 93x64mm]
      #365699 - 21/05/22 11:34 AM

Buckstix,
About how many reloads do you get with your brass cases after you use your crimping tool (or does it affect case life at all?).
Thanks,
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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #365700 - 21/05/22 12:20 PM

HERE'S THE LATEST UPDATE .....

Since Feb. 2019 I've now made 56 paradox crimping tools for fellow shooters Many buyers of my crimping tools use them for loading cartridges for "bore rifles" in various gauges, not only for paradox guns. Here's an example.



I just finished a very special Paradox Crimping Tool #56 for a 40mm 20ga Bore Double Rifle. The shell is only 1-1/2" long.



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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #365702 - 21/05/22 05:56 PM

Definitely a great set for reading brass cases, much better then my pva wood glue method.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: 260rem]
      #372710 - 28/12/22 11:30 AM

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Definitely a great set for reading brass cases, much better then my pva wood glue method.




Hello 260rem
Thanks for the reply


here's an update ....

I've been busy making paradox crimping tools for my fellow shooters. Here's the latest tools ..

tool number 58 for 12 gauge



tool number 59 for 12 gauge



tool number 60 for 10 gauge



and number 3 roll crimper for 12 gauge paper hulls



thanks to all that had me make them a tool ... I am glad to make more if shooters need them.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #376472 - 01/05/23 11:56 AM

here's an update ....

I've been busy ..... this is tool number 64 for another big 8 gauge






Thanks again to all that had me make them a tool ... I am glad to make more if shooters need them. Send me a PM

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #376476 - 01/05/23 03:25 PM

you need a stamp with a trademark, this will make it more easy for collectors in 100 years to identify the antique tools. "here we have a fine set of original "buckstix" 8 gauge crimper, hard to find"
very nice machined tools!

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: lancaster]
      #376502 - 02/05/23 09:07 PM

One word: WOW!!!!

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: lancaster]
      #378364 - 05/08/23 05:46 AM

Quote:

you need a stamp with a trademark, this will make it more easy for collectors in 100 years to identify the antique tools. "here we have a fine set of original "buckstix" 8 gauge crimper, hard to find"
very nice machined tools!


Hello,

I had a stamp made with my initials, but decided that "BS" was not an appropriate stamp.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #378367 - 05/08/23 06:20 AM

Quote:

Quote:

you need a stamp with a trademark, this will make it more easy for collectors in 100 years to identify the antique tools. "here we have a fine set of original "buckstix" 8 gauge crimper, hard to find"
very nice machined tools!


Hello,

I had a stamp made with my initials, but decided that "BS" was not an appropriate stamp.




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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: buckstix]
      #378391 - 05/08/23 11:27 PM

Buckstix. Wow! What great work. I'd missed this thread previously.

I think one for a 10-bore might be in order ... But no idea how or what to order.

Wonderful products you've skillfully made.

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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN [Re: NitroX]
      #385288 - 18/06/24 06:25 AM

Hello All,

here's an update .... I've been busy ... this is tool number 69 for another 12 gauge.

I enjoy helping shooters by making them a tool for their paradox and bore guns ... I am glad to make more if shooters need them. Send me a PM

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/12-69-6.jpg



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