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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #357071 - 26/09/21 03:54 PM

1910 take down https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14484303





















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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #357358 - 14/10/21 01:48 AM

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1910 take down https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14484303






She's quite lovely and seems nearly pristine, but for damage to grip cap and grip.

I noticed the unusual proportions and found, as suspected, by reading the listing that barrel length is 50cm rather than the usual 60 for a TD.

Looks to have been made 1924 - 26 by 'OWGS' along with 'Made in Austria'.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #357364 - 14/10/21 07:34 AM

In 9.5x57 & with a short barrel, would this be used for hunting those large pigs or wounded game in thick forest over in Europe?

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: 93x64mm]
      #357365 - 14/10/21 10:16 AM

Oh yeah - it would be great, in the bush or anywhere else - for me.
9.5x57 would not suffer at all with the shorter bl. Certainly nothing visible.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Daryl_S]
      #357535 - 23/10/21 01:01 PM

In case someone is interested. I have no interest in this:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread...er-parts#UNREAD


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #359386 - 19/12/21 01:26 AM

original booklet for the MS
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/zubehoer/...re-1905--388207













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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #360855 - 21/01/22 06:46 PM

a 9,3x57 https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14469945





















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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #360863 - 21/01/22 09:55 PM

How does that one take down?

Does it just come out of the stock easy? It just doesn't seem to be a proper take down.


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: 260rem]
      #360864 - 21/01/22 10:12 PM

sorry, its not described as "take down"

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #363137 - 06/03/22 05:39 PM

what you find when looking for schönauer can be sometimes hilarious like this one here https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14729659

Steyr 1898 Orion in 6,5x54R Mannlicher-Schönauer













I think its the carbine version of the romaninia model make for the protuguese navy. it comes now from an estate where someone start to build a hunting rifle. little work now to made it ready, I think about it because it will probably selling very cheap.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #363186 - 07/03/22 05:02 PM

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I think its the carbine version of the romaninia model make for the protuguese navy. it comes now from an estate where someone start to build a hunting rifle. little work now to made it ready, I think about it because it will probably selling very cheap.




Kuduae posted his original in Sept, of 2020: NE Forums

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The only military rifle I still own:
A Portuguese Carabina Mo.1896 in 6.5x53R aka .256 Mannlicher. Dated on the left receiver wall “Steyr 1898”. Except for the royal cypher of king Carlos I on the receiver ring it is identical to the Romanian M93 carbine, but apparently much rarer.

No, I don’t intend to sporterise it. When Portugal dumped their military surplus on the German market 30 years ago, I bought it for DMark 150.-, about $ 100.- then. But I bought and kept it for sentimental reasons. When I was a boy of 12 years (that’s 60 years ago right now!), already interested in guns and hunting, I listened to a discussion of my gransfather’s hunting pals at an after-shoot party. All those old men were WW1 veterans of course. Their discussion turned to the suitability of 6.5 mm cartridges for German “big game”, that is red deer stags and boars. One of the old hunters laughed and told: “ Whe head liberated some small 6.5mm Mannlicher carbines and a supply of their special ammo from the Por tuguese. As those short carbines did not take a bayonet they were unsuitable for our fighting. But we used them for foraging until the ammo was used up. I shot a lot of really big game with such a little carbine.” Hauptmann = captain Müller hat fought all the Great War with v.Lettow-Vorbeck in East Africa. “Foraging” to him was shooting African game to feed the troops, Germans, askaris and porters. The more meat to the shot, the better. Preferred prey were hippos for their fat, buffalos and giraffes, but zebras and larger antelopes were not scorned.
So these small, 45 cm = 17.7” carbines with their 10 g = 156 gr round nose bullets certainly had their place in the history of African hunting.


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Here is an interesting variant found on the 'net: Steyr 1898 Trainer

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Portuguese Steyr
M1898 Mannlicher
Serial No: H94
Training Rifle
Calibre:.22
Price: £575
The Kingdom of Portugal bought about 12,500 6.5mm Mannlicher rifles and carbines from Steyr, the first batch was in 1896, for the Navy and Cavalry, and the remainder in 1898 for the Artillery.

These rifles carry “CI” crests for Carlos I of Portugal with all matching serial numbers.

In 1946 a few hundred of the Portuguese Mannlichers were adapted to fire the 5.6mm calibre (.22 Rimfire), for training purposes

This is a rare military training rifle not very often seen in the UK. It is one that is a must for collectors of military trainers.

The bore is in very good condition.


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Crest of Carlos 1 :



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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #363190 - 07/03/22 08:34 PM

Quote:

Quote:


I think its the carbine version of the romaninia model make for the protuguese navy. it comes now from an estate where someone start to build a hunting rifle. little work now to made it ready, I think about it because it will probably selling very cheap.




Kuduae posted his original in Sept, of 2020: NE Forums

Photo and text:

The only military rifle I still own:
A Portuguese Carabina Mo.1896 in 6.5x53R aka .256 Mannlicher. Dated on the left receiver wall “Steyr 1898”. Except for the royal cypher of king Carlos I on the receiver ring it is identical to the Romanian M93 carbine, but apparently much rarer.

No, I don’t intend to sporterise it. When Portugal dumped their military surplus on the German market 30 years ago, I bought it for DMark 150.-, about $ 100.- then. But I bought and kept it for sentimental reasons. When I was a boy of 12 years (that’s 60 years ago right now!), already interested in guns and hunting, I listened to a discussion of my gransfather’s hunting pals at an after-shoot party. All those old men were WW1 veterans of course. Their discussion turned to the suitability of 6.5 mm cartridges for German “big game”, that is red deer stags and boars. One of the old hunters laughed and told: “ Whe head liberated some small 6.5mm Mannlicher carbines and a supply of their special ammo from the Por tuguese. As those short carbines did not take a bayonet they were unsuitable for our fighting. But we used them for foraging until the ammo was used up. I shot a lot of really big game with such a little carbine.” Hauptmann = captain Müller hat fought all the Great War with v.Lettow-Vorbeck in East Africa. “Foraging” to him was shooting African game to feed the troops, Germans, askaris and porters. The more meat to the shot, the better. Preferred prey were hippos for their fat, buffalos and giraffes, but zebras and larger antelopes were not scorned.
So these small, 45 cm = 17.7” carbines with their 10 g = 156 gr round nose bullets certainly had their place in the history of African hunting.





I corrected the year of the post from 2000 to 2020. I don't think Kuduae is 94!

But what an interesting story. Growing up as a young lad and hearing stories from the veterans of the von Lettow-Vorbeck campaign in Eastern Africa, German East Africa/Tanganyika, Kenya, Malawi, Mozambique and Zambia/Rhodesia. The German and African troops of that campaign were legendary in their improvisation. Unsupported for much of the war.

I have von Lettow-Vorbeck's book but only started reading it. Did not finish it.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: NitroX]
      #363192 - 07/03/22 09:00 PM

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I corrected the year of the post from 2000 to 2020. I don't think Kuduae is 94!






Ooooops...

Missed that one in the proof read.

I really should be more careful, the years fly by as it is!

Hopefully when it is 2042 we can all read this post being healthy and active.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #363193 - 07/03/22 09:04 PM

Since using Android I am so ffffing annoyed how times it "corrects" correct words to something incorrect. Only found later.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: NitroX]
      #363201 - 08/03/22 02:18 AM

btw, the real romania rifle is very hard to find today, 99% of them are portuguese carbines here including the 22 lr trainer version

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #367750 - 14/07/22 05:06 AM

an old Mannlicher m 92/95 hunting stock for sale https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=18054574



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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #371643 - 20/11/22 10:03 PM

offered as model 1900 in 256 https://auctionet.com/de/2337421-358-kul.../images#image_1

with SN 689 veryearly












and a Haenel Model 1909 in 8x57 https://auctionet.com/de/2348499-429-kul.../images#image_1





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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #371645 - 20/11/22 10:06 PM

Very nice piece of kit there Lancaster!

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