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lancaster
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some rare reloading tools
#369776 - 02/10/22 11:23 PM

some tools you don't find any day

a complete set from sweden to reload the 8x58RD for the swedish rolling block
https://auctionet.com/de/2341139-ladewerkzeug-8x58rd-schweden-1800er

what I never see before in this time are resizing dies made from steel. common were only tool to resize the case mouth

a Sauer&Sohn case mouth and bullet setting tool - have seen this in old catalogs but can't remember it for sale sometimes
https://auctionet.com/de/2341140-laddverktyg-for-hagel-och-kulpatroner-1800-tal/images#image_1

a 54 ga bullet mould for the .442 beaumont -adams revolver when the british were starting to replace the gauge caliber designation with inch
https://auctionet.com/de/2341143-kultang-r-adams-54-drill-england-mitte-19-jahrhundert

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: lancaster]
#369779 - 03/10/22 01:41 AM

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The Decapper for the berdan primer is slick

I use a small chisel point punch to get a similar effect

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: tinker]
#369784 - 03/10/22 02:46 AM

Noticed the Berdan de-capper right off. Cool!

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93x64mm
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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: DarylS]
#369790 - 03/10/22 07:06 AM

Amazing pieces Lancaster!
I can't see how those moulds would be doing a good session, you'd have to have good gloves at least to not burn yourself!
How did the Berdan deprimer/primer work Tinker?
Wonderful workmanship.

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: 93x64mm]
#369792 - 03/10/22 09:04 AM

Lancaster,
Great pictures of vintahe reloading tools. Thanks fpr showing.

93x64: Many of the 19th century molds required the handles be wrapped in cord and the user wear gloves. My 36 cal Colt 1851 mold has short steel handles. My BPE rifle molds are brass or bronze and rrquire welding gloves to use.

The berdn decapper has a pin that is driven into the primer at an angle and when open, pops out the spent primer. Obviously, you don't want to use one with a live primer.

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: 93x64mm]
#369797 - 03/10/22 03:35 PM

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How did the Berdan deprimer/primer work

The swinging handle pushes the punch against the steel spring's return pressure - the punch travels in a path diagonal to the flat surface of the primer

As the chisel tip of the punch meets the primer's surface, it catches it and pushes it into the cavity in the case head, deforming the primer and dislodging it from the primer pocket

Slick and simple

I use a seating die threaded into the press upside down to hold the case head-up and with a hand held small chisel tip punch and a light mallet I preform the same task

Too easy

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: tinker]
#369798 - 03/10/22 03:39 PM

And that set of tools sold for only 221 Euros!

Someone got a great value for their fragile currency.
Good for them.

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93x64mm
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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: tinker]
#369803 - 03/10/22 10:37 PM

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Quote:

How did the Berdan deprimer/primer work

The swinging handle pushes the punch against the steel spring's return pressure - the punch travels in a path diagonal to the flat surface of the primer

As the chisel tip of the punch meets the primer's surface, it catches it and pushes it into the cavity in the case head, deforming the primer and dislodging it from the primer pocket

Slick and simple

I use a seating die threaded into the press upside down to hold the case head-up and with a hand held small chisel tip punch and a light mallet I preform the same task

Too easy

Thanks Tinker!
I guess once you know what you're doing then all good!
I've used a hydraulic set up before, messy but it works.

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: 93x64mm]
#370094 - 10/10/22 12:20 AM

The next question : Where does one find Berdan primers (or for that matter any primer) ?
Cool tools, thanks for sharing !!!!

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: bwanabobftw]
#370095 - 10/10/22 12:31 AM

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The next question : Where does one find Berdan primers (or for that matter any primer) ?

Berdan primers are apparently not so easy to find these days.

What size Berdan primers do you need?

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: tinker]
#370359 - 16/10/22 06:03 AM

very unusual mould for casting a 82 gramm bullet of .779 diameter https://www.tradera.com/de/item/301784/563271197/enorm-kultang-19-8-mm

fits maybe a 10ga?

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: tinker]
#370366 - 16/10/22 08:26 AM

I could use either RWS 6507 or Eley 172

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: 85lc]
#370369 - 16/10/22 09:04 AM

That's quite a mould. 1262.8gr. = 82 grams @ 15.4gr. per gram.
Difficult to hold when hot enough to cast good bullets.

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Re: some rare reloading tools [Re: DarylS]
#370377 - 16/10/22 06:39 PM

there must have been some kind of handle for this monster. if it realy is a bullet mould.

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