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7 mistakes of camping sleep systems
      #363708 - 20/03/22 10:31 PM

Not a bad video.

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7 mistakes EVERY new camper makes with their SLEEP SYSTEM
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If you have sleepless nights in the backcountry camping, backpacking, hiking, then this video will help. It's 7 tips and tricks to make sure you have the best sleep possible while out camping! How to sleep well while camping. How to sleep warm backpacking. How to sleep comfortable while camping in a tent.

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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: NitroX]
      #363716 - 21/03/22 02:58 AM

Yeah - that was pretty good. My warm bag weighs 15 pounds & is rated as -40. It has an inner bag as well that works for me down to 20F. I just leave the top open/off. It's called "The Toaster".
I sleep very well in my trailer, with just a light blanket thanks. No need for the bag. If it's chilly, there is always the furnace. Today, THAT'S camping.

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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: DarylS]
      #363733 - 21/03/22 07:44 PM

I find it hard to use my sleeping bag from the 1980's. It feels too small. It must hab0ve shrunk ... Today I usually use my semi older pattern swag.

Original Aussie, eg Fleming and Sandford Swags made in Hahndorf, now gone. We're the classic pattern. Waterproof canvas bedroll. Taller than a person, the base had flaps for a cloth covered foam mattress to be inserted into. It was wide enough to fold more than double underneath, or pull the flap over on top as a dew protector. Or run a cord and an inverted V against rain.

Classic and wonderful. I still have one of these. And a double person one, Curl used in the NT.

Does not prevent mosquitos. First trip to the NT one night of no sleep we quickly sourced mosquito nets. That trip I had an pseudo swag. Synthetic tarp, a thin foam backpacking pad, sleeping bag, sleeping bag protector cotton bag, mosquito net, and bungee cords, to tighten it into a roll.

Now I have a slightly modern version. Not one of these so called swags which are really little canvas tents. Mine has the usual base but also low sides which heighten a little to the head. Cords can be used to tie up and hold the head section higher. The top has a mosquito mesh zip top. And a second canvas zip top. Can be used as a bed on a camp bed. Or on the ground. Tied up or flat. In warm weather completely open. If mosquitoes with the mesh zipped up. If rain. Canvas top zipped up.

Inside I usually use two foam cloth covered mattresses if the width is not a problem when transporting. Two is better than one. One is ok. Now I use a quilt inside, either a double, lying on top and pulled over me. Or ususuallg a single quilt with opened sleeping bag underneath. Blankets as required. In the swag box, comfortable, convenient and easy to roll up.

These enclosed swags with zips, keep the bedding cleaner, more together, easy to transport and can be zipped up to keep snakes out. I suggested Curl roll his up a little in the morning, or check for snakes in the evening.

I spent 40 days once in my original swag always out under the stars. Big winds can be interesting. Cows walking through your camp? Didn't even know. Would a bull attack a sleeping person? Swags are no deterrent to land attacking saltie crocs. Sleep with a mate to the left and right if close to the water. . I was shocked once to read of a saltie coming out of the sea, 200 metres !!! inland to a camp. And try to drag a man back to the sea. Luckily a target shooting guy had his handgun in a nearby camp. And brain shot the croc. Amazingly the police did not charge him for having his handgun there.

Staying in an NT fuel stop, restaurant, motel, cabins, caravan park, camping ground. The rooms and cabins were all booked. Enjoyed a steak and beer at the pub restaurant. Then the ONLY person in the camp ground. Most have caravans or elaborate camper tent trailers. Setup in the far corner. My swag tied to my LandCruiser. Luxuries such as power from the vehicle. Lighting. Comfortable camp chair. A smoke. Listen to an audiobook and a smoke. Comfortable bed. Shower in the morning. Camping likd an 18nyearvold, but comfortable Like a 50 plus year old!

Another time, similar, at same place BUT not in the same campground but another section. Hundreds of Army camo trucks, 4WDs, tanks transporters etc. Hu dress of guys and girls in Little tents or camping shelters. Smart army staff buy a nice pop up mosquito shelter or swag tent shelter. No hootchie taro ground sheet shelters any more (?). I still like an inverse V hootchie taro shelter for ad hoc use.

The Army vehicles would stagger dispersalsvin groups of ten to thirty vehicles. Asked one guy and they were heading to Port Augusta. About 1500 to over 2000 KMs away.

Swags really require a vehicle as they are too bulky. Especially the modern swag mini tents. Far bigger than most mini tents.

African safari outfitters could benefit from Aussie swags. They are far better than anything in have seen in Africa. One of mine was supposed to be shipped as a gift to an African PH. Never sent it. Guy never kept in touch. But they should be there. Especially as labour to make them is cheap in Africa. If quality is often missing.

I do like the classic swags, if they can still be found. Or a near classic similar to mine.

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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: NitroX]
      #363734 - 21/03/22 07:49 PM

I am interested in buying a non shrunk wider sleeping bag.

And a new sleeping mat, mattress.

For international travel use. Or back packing hunting. Swags are obviously too bulky.

No idea what is the best stuff these days in a sleeping bag. Down filing or synthetic? Or? What sort of construction?

For the mattress always thought airvfilled cold? But some seem insulated now?

I have no idea? Need help?

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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: NitroX]
      #363749 - 22/03/22 04:07 AM

Found a Picture: But mine's green.


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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: DarylS]
      #363758 - 22/03/22 10:37 AM

I've got two bags like that, I can't stand the ones that hug your feet, they are just to constricting for me.
But I'm more a fan of the camper, two duck down pillows and a thick goose down doona for my camping adventures these days.
I did it rough fir far too many years and now it's time for some comfort.

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      #363759 - 22/03/22 10:52 AM

For the last 6 or 7 years, I haven't tented and I love it.
I sold my wooden 'cots' for the BP Rendezvous & now haul the tow-behind trailer to them. Again, nice queen bet with a $1,000.00 mattress. Love it. If it's to hot and I'm "dry or grass camping" with no electrical plug-ins, I have a 35 amp gasoline generator that works just fine. Around here in BC, it's only excessively hot for about 4 or 5 hours a day.
If we're down in the South of BC, it can be a LOT hotter for longer in the day, but then we're plugged into a 30 amp service when down there, so air can be on as long as needed.
I've yet to need to use the light-weigh 4 pound sleeping bag we keep under the bed for a cold weather blanket. Opened up, it's a bit larger than queen sized.
Camping's rough, but that's how I like it - trailer rough. At 71 almost 72, that's camping!
Here "she" is where I camped for 3 months last summer and will be camping for 3 1/2 months this coming summer.
Got all my fishing gear ready, too.
That little red & black boat with bimini top, tied up on the dock with the 20HP Merc is also mine.




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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: DarylS]
      #363771 - 22/03/22 02:27 PM

Looks comfortable.

I always hesitate to pull a trailer due to the additional fuel cost. My last trip fuel economy was not great. Especially with the loaded up roof rack.

Driving over 3000 KMs up and then 3000 KMs back again, the fuel dollars add up. And before the current ridiculous profit gouging prices.

Driving slower might help the fuel economy immensely.

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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: NitroX]
      #363774 - 22/03/22 02:51 PM

Of the seven mistakes I have made some of them. Maybe not at first a mistake but over time things change.

Thin width of a sleeping bag? Yes. I roll around a lot. Often end up with a frozen arm and shoulder outside on the ground. Lying with the bag turned around.

Same with a too narrow mat.

Funny a local sambar hunter once recommended a two-thirds length mat. Said full lengthnis not needed ie for the legs. Saves weight and bulk backing. No I disagree.

I once used one mattress, one sleeping bag and one blanket camping in France. Two people. Woke up in a lot of pain and stiffness from the cold from the ground. We couldnt find decent stuff in London to buy. So took what I had till we reached Germany where decent camping gear could be bought. Back in 1989. Bad decision. Several aweful nights without adequate insulation below. With a mat and sleeping bag each heaven!

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Re: 7 mistakes of camping sleep systems [Re: NitroX]
      #363792 - 23/03/22 06:45 AM

Insulation to the ground is VERY important. When camping, I always had a 3" thick foam mattress, or earlier a 2" with a 1" on top. My feet, nowadays suffer from cold. Poor circulation or due to neck injury. The jury is still out. I thought that was part and parcel to MS, but the specialist said now, was likely due to your degenerating neck disks. I didn't even know she had that in my file.
The only time I don't wear socks to bed is during the summer months when the temp inside the house is above 66/7F (18.8C).
My "Toaster" has extra insulation in the foot area. Didn't need socks in it and was 3 or 4 degrees below freezing last time I camped with that bag (spring gopher shoot) near the end of April.

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