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500grains
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Best quality bolt guns?
      #36215 - 21/08/05 06:05 AM

Who do you guys think builts the best bolt guns? Feel free to name individual gunsmiths if that is who you think does it.

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Mike_McGuire
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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36218 - 21/08/05 06:28 AM

With Mauser and 375, 404 type calibres probably Rob De Vries and Gabe Gatti in Australia and at far less cost then American stuff that is not half as good.

But would prefer Echols if a rehashed Model 70.

Purdey for the best combination of everything except there missing their own calibres like H&H and Weatherby.

Top end Weatherby for function, eye appeal and converting non shooters to a positive view on guns.

Best function/accuracy for the money, HS Precision.

Mike

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36305 - 22/08/05 03:07 PM

Duane Wiebe

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36315 - 22/08/05 09:42 PM

I own a Husqvana bolt action in 358 NM.
Ballanced ,smooth as silk and shoots better than me..
Not an expensive rifle however everything about it is a class act.
Al

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #36323 - 23/08/05 12:33 AM

Dakota Arms, period.

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: bonanza]
      #36366 - 23/08/05 05:55 PM

Fisher,Heilman,Martini/Hagn,Gatti,Echols,and others,this is not a order of priority list. All have something great to offer.
Martini/ Hagn definitely have the best takedowns I have seen,threads are square form,tight,smooth,precise,chromed,no wobble. Great integral barrel feature work as well.
H&H would not get my money,unlikely I would ever buy one,considering what work is avail from these other great individual craftsmen.
Rhiemer Johannsen I was not over the moon about, But Hartmann Weiss do some fine work, However you could get their premium 98 action,sent to one of the guys above, get a damn fine job, and save $000s' over what H&W would charge.

Edited by starman (23/08/05 06:25 PM)

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36369 - 23/08/05 09:24 PM

Dan

For me its Trevor Proctor in Wilmslow England

Classic sporting lines, built tough and only a fraction of London prices

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36423 - 24/08/05 08:56 PM

Rolf Bachnick (Safari Arms, Melbourne)...Conservative and a traditionalst ? Yes... Thank God! Yet extremely gifted with steel, bluing and a steady hand. But be warned - the bolt action starts and finishes with Mauser !

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: Velopex]
      #36426 - 24/08/05 09:23 PM

I'd have to say of all the guns I own, when I open the gun safe I always stare and drool over my Heym Sr20 Classic.
It's pretty, functions well and I bought it years ago from Paul Jeager. All of what is refered to as tweeking was done by him. He added the iron sights, tweeked the action, etc etc.
I like the gun and would buy one again.
It's certainly the best bolt gun I own, for now

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36428 - 24/08/05 09:50 PM

Gatti ,Echols ,miller.
I,m no expert on this sort of thing ,but from what Ive read and heard about ,these are the ones I would go to in this order

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36434 - 25/08/05 12:34 AM

If someone reads this thread looking for an answer they will have plenty of variety to pick from

Mike

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36484 - 25/08/05 04:15 PM

I can't afford any of the best guns and stick to hunting with my second hand custom 8mm Mauser from an unknown gunmaker. However, these are some nice guns on the net - the companies are reputable from what I have heard from people who know.

Theo Jung

Harry Baelder

Kesslerin lightweights

Alfred Schilling

Good hunting!



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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #36490 - 25/08/05 04:40 PM

Mehul, I was hoping to hear from you. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36539 - 26/08/05 09:17 PM

500 Grains,
This is one post I have long been planning. Thanks for making this post.

Always had this dream to have a Bolt action rifle, in 30/06, custom made for me.I want a rifle that gives flawless function and accuracy and most of all aesthatic in the traditional sense.The name stamped on it is immaterial to me.I am in search of one.When I find that, I will get that.And of course at the moment a H&H or Purdey price tag is out of question.

Mehul, the rifles by Waffenjung look absolutely fantastic.How and where you find these little known makers beats me.I am almost all the time on the net in search of gun makers etc. I am going to pester them for more details on their rifles.Thanks for the great links.

Best to all-
Vikram.

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Edited by vikram (26/08/05 09:36 PM)

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36544 - 26/08/05 11:45 PM

If you have a lot of money:

Hartmann& Weiss

Very good bolt action guns for less money:

http://www.heym-waffenfabrik.de/english/indexeng.html

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36578 - 28/08/05 10:31 AM

500 grains,

My pleasure.

Vikram,

Theo Jung is a well known riflemaker in Germany. Several of the European magazines feature his rifles from time to time. I'll send you a mail shortly.

BTW I agree with you 100% on your choice of the 30-06 as a chambering for a fine custom rifle. It may seem old fashioned to many friends outside India, but I love it as do all the other Indian members here.

Best wishes,



Mehul.

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #36580 - 28/08/05 12:10 PM

Looking at Jungs' takedown version, I notice that he has a longer front reciever ring than the Reimer Johanssen takedown. I do like that longer feature.
Does anyone know who makes Jungs actions? himself?
Is that extended reciever ring made like that from new, or is it a mod. that he has done to an exhisting action?
Mighty fine looking rifles!

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36588 - 28/08/05 02:40 PM

500grains,

Best quality in the USA starting at the typical over the counter prices most people are wiling to pay is likely an old Sears aka JC Higgins FN Mauser chambered in .30/06, if you can find one. I had one once...I paid $300 and the price included a brand new Leupold 3x9 on top and it did 3/4 MOA 3 shot groups from a bench with I forgot what Federal factory ammunition...I gave it to my neighbor's son who will probably be able to use it for a lifetime.

For the "money is no object" rifles, as you probably already know, I've been studying that myself to decide what .375 to buy to use for the rest of my life. The conclusions I've come to are that the bolt actions built by Johannsen and Prechtl are as good as you can get, but I am thinking I may purchase a bolt rifle from Butch Searcy to avoid the import mess. The Ryan Breeding rifles you mentioned appear to be too short or too blocky for my personal taste but seeing and handling one in person could possibly change my opinion fast. I was decided on a Johannsen, but after checking importers, NECG and GSI told me they no longer import them, but NECG says they will order a custom built Johannsen for a buyer.

Also for "best" rifles, I don't consider anything that has a cheap "custom" plastic stock spray painted to the customer's choice of color to be desirable...the stock should be virtually waterproof oil sealed wood and built to fit the customer...nor do I think that any rifle is desirable if the maker chops off machined portions and welds new parts on, or if the maker builds a gun so that all parts that may need to be replaced at some point have to be custom made...unfortunately this rules out several big name gunmakers.

I want most of the "best quality" work to be done to improve function and the work of that sort is usually done on the inside, where it isn't visible to the world, whereas most of the "best" work frequently appears to be done on the exterior as eye candy.

Richard.

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: rgp]
      #36590 - 28/08/05 02:59 PM

rgp,

There is a new Johannsen 375 for sale at www.hallowellco.com that will likely cost you less than importing one, assuming the features are what you want.

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36592 - 28/08/05 03:22 PM

500grains,

The .375 Johannsen at Hallowell's is almost ideal and I've considered buying it, although for the price I am thinking I want a rifle with a stock built to fit my measurements.

Also of note, in case anyone is looking for a Johannsen in .416, GSI (as of about 3 days ago) still has a couple of Johannsens chambered in .416 Rigby and there are I believe two in .416 Rigby at Griffin & Howe in New York. I think GSI also still has one chambered in .458 Lott.

Richard

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: rgp]
      #36609 - 29/08/05 07:59 AM

Is GSI running a sale, or are those regular price rifles?

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36613 - 29/08/05 11:37 AM

500grains,

I don't know if they are having a sale or not and did not ask prices because they didn't have what I wanted.

When I called GSI, I asked specifically about any Johannsens chambered in .375 H&H, and the .375's were sold out. The person I spoke to was checking the rifles in inventory while telling me what he had available. Their phone number is 205 655 8299.

Also I asked them if it is possible for a potential customer to actually go to their shop and see their inventory, he said yes but to let them know a week or so before being in the area so that they can make certain someone will be there to show the products.

Richard

Edited by rgp (29/08/05 11:39 AM)

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: starman]
      #36659 - 31/08/05 11:04 AM

Starman,

As far as I know, Theo Jung does not make his own actions. There was an article about him making the new WSMs on Mauser Kurz actions for an American client, but I cannot remember where. Apparently he uses whatever action his clients desire.

Best wishes,

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: 500grains]
      #36660 - 31/08/05 11:08 AM

And, of course, there is that other great action - the Mannlicher Schonauer and it's revival by former Steyr employee Erich Schoder.

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Re: Best quality bolt guns? [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #36769 - 02/09/05 09:54 PM

Its great news to see that they are making NEW Mannlicher Schonauers !!!! be interesting to see how much one would cost ! no doubt expensive ,but would be fantastic to have one ! but at least they are available again !

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