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mehulkamdar
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The sad state of the gun trade in India
      #35647 - 10/08/05 07:45 AM

Calcutta where Rodda and Manton still have licenses to manufacture and sell guns but sell clothing instead used to be a premier destination for gun buyers in the past. The sad state of the business is explained by this article.



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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #35648 - 10/08/05 08:33 AM

What's so sad is that neither insurgents nor Maoists are interested in buying sporting guns and they don't walk into gunshops, anyway. This is the whole fallacy of the idea "But don't you believe in reasonable gun control?" Criminals, revolutionaries, jihadis, drug smugglers and the like have no interest in Mausers, double rifles, muzzleloaders or any of the things we delight in and they get their AK's and blackmarket M16's, etc. from large dealers who are just as criminal as they are. Courtesy of the late, unlamented USSR the world is flooded with cheap, ugly and totally lethal selective-fire military arms that hunters and target shooters don't have any use for. Guess where they are? Out in the hinterlands, hidden under mattresses, riding around in the trunk of cars on top of plastic bags of suspicious white powder! But do the police give a rat's patootie? Nah! Gun control is nothing more that an excuse for a uniformed, bullying bureaucrat to harass and oppress the very people he's supposed to be protecting. The whole damned world needs the Second Amendment!

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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: Oldsarge]
      #35650 - 10/08/05 10:12 AM


Maybe someone should ask the London terror bombers
for their Explosive licence or some of the other terrorists for
their Firearms licence.

Makes you wonder about the world.

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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: 500Nitro]
      #35652 - 10/08/05 12:04 PM

Oldsarge and 500 Nitro,

The saddest fact in all of this is that the Indian authorities know that these silly licensing laws don't work. The two biggest insurgencies in India, in Punjab and in Assam were defeated only when the government formed "village defence committees" and armed decent law abiding citizens there. Decades of army and para military presence had done nothing before common people were armed.

Yes, the whole world needs the second amendment.

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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #35750 - 12/08/05 07:09 PM

Dacoits....Communal problems/riots....urban gangs/mafia....

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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #35802 - 14/08/05 03:54 AM

We are slightly better off here in Pakistan where licenses for firearms can be obtained and weapons bought/sold.However a lot of unlicensed arms are still floating around,legacy of the Afghan war,and these are used for a no. of crimes and terrorism.The govt. on a number of occasion tried to crack down on illegal arms but was never successful.Until a sincere effort is made to rid this menace things will only get worse rather than improve.

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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: iqbal]
      #35804 - 14/08/05 05:24 AM

IMO you have is rather backwards. Your problem is not unlicensed gun owners but criminals. Criminals manage to arm themselves for their depredations whether the government issues permits or not. Just look at the old Soviet Union or current Africa. I believe there was even a movement in Cold War Poland to ban aluminum baseball bats beause criminals used them to mug people and settle disputes between gangs. That didn't work, either.

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Re: The sad state of the gun trade in India [Re: Oldsarge]
      #36111 - 19/08/05 12:23 PM

Oldsarge,

I agree with you on this. Pakistan's gun laws are a lot better than India's are and the situation in the country is better than it is in India. The sad fact is that the present government is slowly starving the Darra Adam Khel gunmakers because of it's completely ridiculous priorities as far as the law and order situation is concerned. In the name of the war on terror it is law abiding gun owners and gunmakers who are being victimised there.

I keep hoping that they do not go the utterly ridiculous way the Indian government has gone so far.



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