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NitroSteel
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Ruger RSM blueing
      #36037 - 18/08/05 08:39 AM

I started talking with a fellow about buying his used RSM. After looking at the pictures of the gun everything looks perfect except for the it looks like the blueing on part of the gun is turn more "blueish".

Do any of ya'll know what causes this or what can be done about it? I'd really like to buy the gun if this can be solved (or maybe it isn't really a big deal). What do ya'll think? I've seen this on other guns, but have never really considered buying one like this.

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: NitroSteel]
      #36043 - 18/08/05 09:58 AM

The possibilites that come to mind are:

1) Are any of the parts anodized aluminum alloy?

2) Someone monkeying around with metal polish (Flitz or similar) will frequently overpolish the easy to reach parts, causing this variation.

3) An improperly removed surface coat of rust can cause this. I have a 6 1/2" .22 cal. Ruger Single Six that is like this, but that Single Six is a working handgun and has been used so much over the past 25 years that I've worn the rifling pretty shallow and really should have had it rebarrelled several years ago. The reason that Single Six has such variability in the bluing is because of holster wear and on several occasions I've had a light surface coat of rust on it which I removed with #0000 steel wool. Otherwise the blueing has actually held up pretty well. The sides of the hammer which are not really polished or finished at the factory have also taken on a "blue" from a sweaty thumb over the years.

4) It can vary depending on how consistent the guy at the factory was when buffing the bare metal.

Richard

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: rgp]
      #36044 - 18/08/05 10:02 AM

Thank you for your help. I am debating on whether to buy the gun or not...

If you can tell me how to post a picture, I'll put it on here so that ya'll can have a look at it and get me an idea of what I should do.

Thanks again,

NitroSteel

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: NitroSteel]
      #36056 - 18/08/05 03:06 PM

Is the area you are talking about the action itself? The Ruger action "forging" process creates a metal that will accept the bluing but it will turn "Plum brown" with age.

Might this be what you are observing?

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: 510Wells]
      #36060 - 18/08/05 04:03 PM

510Wells, some blued Ruger handguns I have owned had grip frames that had a reddish hue to the bluing as well.

NitroSteel, I'm not one to give good advice on how to post photos because I've only posted 3 in my life, but upload a photo to imageshack or a similar photo hosting facility, then copy the direct link to the image, and when posting here, click on "Image" in the "Instant UBB Code" box, and it will ask you to paste the link, then you are done.

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: rgp]
      #36074 - 18/08/05 11:20 PM

How's this:

http://www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=28429wSkPQ&i=183432

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: NitroSteel]
      #36131 - 19/08/05 03:26 PM

Nitrosteel,

That looks very much like someone has used an excessive amount of metal polish on the rifle.

Richard

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: NitroSteel]
      #36134 - 19/08/05 03:38 PM

I just took a look at your posted photo. Yup, that's the color Ruger actions turn with a little age. It has to do with a chemical change that happens over time. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the metal, just a color change.

It will continue until the entire action is a uniform color and will get a bit more "Plumish" looking with time. I don't know if the color change continues or will stop at some point in time.

I've had My 458 Lott RSM for about 2 1/2 years now and it's doing the same thing. Who knows, it might even be considered a desirable trait by collectors some time in the future, naw, probably not.

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: 510Wells]
      #36137 - 19/08/05 04:48 PM

I haven't caustic blued anything for 25 years, but, I believe the consensis is that the 4140 cast steel simply wasn't left in the salts long enough. This cast steel can be a bitch to rust blued. As for collectors, chances are they will say it isn't "original" if it hasn't turned this ugly plum color.

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Re: Ruger RSM blueing [Re: NitroSteel]
      #36162 - 20/08/05 05:22 AM

NitroSteel- you have to first publish the picture to a web site, like www.photobucket.com Then, once there, left click on the IMAGE URL you want, from the list under the picture & 'copy'.
: Come back here using the browser "back" comand & paste the url you've copied to your posting. check to make sure[image] is at the front of the url, and [/image] is at the rear of the url. Make certain there is only 1 http:// in the front of the picture url.
; Another way is to click on the picture, right click on it, then click on properties, then copy the url address, then paste that to your posting, adding the [image] and [/image] yourself. The first way is easier but I've found the second way reduces errors that sometimes show "no address' after using the first method.


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Edited by Daryl_S (20/08/05 05:30 AM)

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