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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #344819 - 06/09/20 04:21 PM

Genschow & Ca AG, hard to find a 32 ga hammer gun https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=9670951













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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #356158 - 19/08/21 05:31 AM

a simple and crude, maybe homemade, 20 ga single shot
https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/115659/15478873?offset=50&




it was build by using a WW 1 german Hebel signal pistol


4 bore single shot with a big gras action
https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/115659/15478893?offset=50&







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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #357072 - 26/09/21 04:02 PM

nice belgian made rolling block double gun for 410/76
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14501607























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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #358361 - 21/11/21 12:50 AM

24 ga single shot made from a italian vetterli blckpowder rifle - nice work
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusil-vetterli-...em-8559689.html









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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #358372 - 21/11/21 06:11 AM

Bet those 24 bore rimfire shells are expensive when you find them.
Cool gun. 58cal.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #358375 - 21/11/21 06:38 AM

oh no, common center fire , still made by Fiocchi https://fiocchi.com/en/catalog/ammo/shotshells/24-gauge.html

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #363271 - 10/03/22 01:42 AM

no wonder its so hard to find the cartridge extractors, he hade them all
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/7541416/



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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #363991 - 27/03/22 10:34 PM

don't ask me how this work, see it the first time I see such an action-ä so called Kaiser patent 16 ga
https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/halggevaer-kaiser-patent-kal-16-65/i6181066/















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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #363996 - 28/03/22 03:41 AM

Amazing. Really interesting 24 bore ammo still made.
When I was a kid, 24 bore brass & paper hulls were suggested from making up Snider cases.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #363998 - 28/03/22 03:53 AM

Fiocchi also made 32 ga https://fiocchi.com/en/catalog/ammo/shotshells/32-gauge.html

Fusil Nemrod 16 ga https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/117416/15900396?offset=150&



Pieper Actionless 47, 12 ga https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/117416/15900397?offset=150&





Baby Breton 12 ga https://www.ader-paris.fr/lot/117416/15900398?offset=150&







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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #371827 - 27/11/22 06:35 AM

A Cased Pinfire Pistol with Changeable Barrels and a Detachable Stock(Poacher´s Pistol)
Description: Three changeable 20 gauge barrels of different lengths (12, 28 and 58 cm) and mouth piece retain 80% original brown finish. The breech stamped with St. Étienne proof mark after 1856. The tang, boxlock action, rotary under-lever and trigger guard all engraved. Smooth one piece walnut grip. France circa 1860, length 28.5 cm. In a matching lockable walnut case, the lid with a brass escutcheon. The interior is lined with green velvet. Containing the detachable walnutstock, reloading accessories, cleaning rod and 10 pinfire shotshells. Dimensions 62 x 7.5 x 20.5 cm. Condition 2+
https://eaukce.antiques-auctions.eu/en/d...le/?idimg=30261













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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #374849 - 05/03/23 10:42 PM

belgian made 32 ga hammer gun, very slim
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8454325/#






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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #374864 - 06/03/23 05:48 AM

32 bore = .526"

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #374867 - 06/03/23 05:59 AM

http://old.municion.org/semi/32.htm


1 Pound / gauge = weight of lead sphere Diameter of bore is then measured
gauge pounds mm inches
0.25 4 67.34 2.651
0.5 2 53.45 2.103
0.75 1+1/3 46.70 1.838
1 1 42.42 1.669
1.5 2/3 37.05 1.459
2 1/2 33.67 1.326
3 1/3 29.41 1.158
4 1/4 26.72 1.052
5 1/5 24.80 0.976
6 1/6 23.35 0.919
6.278 1/6.278 23.00 0.906
7 1/7 22.18 0.873
8 1/8 21.21 0.835
9 1/9 20.39 0.803
10 1/10 19.69 0.775
11 1/11 19.07 0.751
12 1/12 18.53 0.729
13 1/13 18.04 0.710
14 1/14 17.60 0.693
15 1/15 17.21 0.677
16 1/16 16.83 0.663
17 1/17 16.50 0.650
18 1/18 16.19 0.637
20 1/20 15.63 0.615
22 1/22 15.13 0.596
24 1/24 14.70 0.579
26 1/26 14.31 0.564
28 1/28 13.97 0.550
32 1/32 13.36 0.526
36 1/36 12.85 0.506
40 1/40 12.40 0.488

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #374889 - 06/03/23 11:15 PM

Some wild stuff there Lancaster!
That old 32guage gun looks rather neat!


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Re: guns at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #374891 - 07/03/23 12:47 AM

Thanks lancaster, for the gauge data. I used it to write a small gauge calculator. For example a .410" diameter bore would project to be ~67.5 gauge

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: LRF]
      #374899 - 07/03/23 04:24 AM

My chart is labeled: The Los Angeles Silhouette Club and runs
from 180 bore, .296" & 38.9gr. to 1 bore @ 1.671" & 7,000gr.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #375070 - 12/03/23 07:47 AM

nice 12 ga Darne doublegun https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19079907#img











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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #376404 - 29/04/23 03:54 AM

a 12 ga 1908 patent Sanner double gun made in St. Etienne
https://www.galeriedemars.fr/armes-categ...rance-xixe.html



















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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #376417 - 29/04/23 08:24 AM

Lancaster,
Wow, the Sanner action is very interesting. That is the first time that I have seen what appears to be a rolling block DB shotgun.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: 85lc]
      #376419 - 29/04/23 12:39 PM

Yeah, that's a first for me too. Thanks, lancaster.

Never cease to be amazed by the number of intriguing dead-end designs on the road to SxS shotgun perfection!

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Marrakai]
      #376423 - 29/04/23 08:20 PM

and after 150 years of trial and error we were ending with something like this



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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #376428 - 29/04/23 10:29 PM

Yeah well I'm just going to consider that to be yet another dead-end that hasn't quite hit the wall yet!

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Marrakai]
      #376430 - 29/04/23 11:15 PM

I call it the gay-gun and it will be the future of small game hunting.
when your friends see you coming with a pink gay gun they maybe laughing about you but over the years their minds will be change and they will understand how brave you were once.
you should try it!

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Marrakai]
      #376431 - 30/04/23 01:26 AM

Quote:

Yeah well I'm just going to consider that to be yet another dead-end that hasn't quite hit the wall yet!




LOL- spot-on!!

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