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DarylS
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Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada
      #357936 - 09/11/21 08:25 AM

Cased H&H.

https://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/holland-holland-30-super-rimless-take-down-rifle

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #357956 - 10/11/21 12:06 AM

Have mercy!!

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: degoins]
      #357978 - 10/11/21 07:16 AM

I love that style of stock, especially the fore end.
Would be a nice piece of kit I reckon!

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: 93x64mm]
      #357994 - 10/11/21 02:50 PM

The left side of the stock looks great. The right side, not even close.
Yes - I agree, would be nice to own.

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #358074 - 12/11/21 11:14 AM

So many guns have passed through that place that I’ve wished I could afford. I kick myself for not buying one of the Verney Caron Traquer doubles at 2500 bucks. They also had a nice looking custom 303 over under by the same maker, may have been one of a kind?

I’ve gotten a few old Swedish guns from them, good deals

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: Conor_90]
      #358077 - 12/11/21 12:40 PM

Same here Conor_90.
9.3x57, OU 12 x.222, 12 bore Field hammer gun damascus SxS 12, 6.5x55, dies & bullets.
There was an O/U 9.3x74 I almost bought - LOL. Seems to me, it was $3,500.00

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #358108 - 14/11/21 09:39 AM

Those 96 9.3x57 sporters are great guns

Their chambers can be a bit all over the place though

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: Conor_90]
      #358110 - 14/11/21 12:10 PM

Yes, the chambers can be excessively long. I started off with one having .019" excessively long body of the case.
I necked new RP 8mm Mauser brass straight, then down to hold a 9.3mm bullet for a crush fit on closing the bolt.

This is the same method I use with .30/06 brass to make my .375/06 IMP brass.
Because of this method, there is very little fireforming to do, as the case's shoulders are almost perfect after the necking operation.

My 9.3x57 Model 46 also had a .370 groove diameter but the largest bullet dia. that could be chambered was .367".
Even 286gr Privi's at .365" shot into sub 1" groups at 100 meters, as did the 225gr. sized down to .367" Hornady, 232gr. Norma Vulcan,
270gr. Speer, 293gr. TUG and 300gr. sized down to .367" .375 Hornady RN's, both bonded Interbond and Interlocked.
My bro has that rifle now and is using Norma Alaskan 286gr. RN's I have loaded to 2,200fps mv.

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #358126 - 14/11/21 09:09 PM

Sweet looking rifle.

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #358147 - 15/11/21 10:18 PM

Hi Daryl,

I am reading with interest your comments about resizing the Hornady 225 gr .375" bullets to .366".
I am in the search for sizing die, or better, dies, to do the same. What dies do you use for it?

Thank you!

PH

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #358160 - 16/11/21 04:58 AM

Hi PH.
I used an old FL Pacific .222 die. I measured it up, finding the body to be .375" which would fully support a .375 bullet's sides to prevent expansion of the bullet's jacket while travelling through the choke.
I turned the die off on my little lathe in the shoulder section, about 1/2" above the start of the neck. I then chucked the die in the 3-jaw and ran the tool into it on a V slope until I had a diameter on the shoulder angle that measured about .355".
I then used a .375 neck/throating reamer to expand that dia. to .366" and tested it using a 225gr. .375" bullet.
I screwed the die up into the Orange Crusher Lyman press, put a Lee post of .350" in the ram.
I lubed the bullet with Imperial die wax and pushed it through the die. It came out at .364" IIRC. I then, with my fingers, carefully turned the neck/throater into the die again and opened it up a bit more, testing as I went, and stopped when the bullets came out at .367", the largest size my rifle would allow to be chambered and released from the case.
I wrote this up here(I think), as well as at gun boards forum and a fellow from California sent me a set of RCBS .223 dies to do the same with. I don't remember which forum he was from.
1st time lucky, I guess. The FL die didn't work at all and the seater die did, after a fashion but seems to me it took a lot more force than my die, to push a bullet through. I had to anneal those dies, but not my old Pacific die for some reason.
With my die, the force needed is about like sizing a .300 Win Mag case.
No, it isn't for sale.
Since that time, we have learned that Lee Precision will make a set of 3 sizing dies to do the same trick my one die does. They use their cast bullet sizing dies that fit a press and with their angles, ect. 3 dies are necessary, at about (some time back) $30.00 each.
I found that lubed .375 cast bullets size down perfectly to .367" without any distortion as well, whether lubed with Rooster Red or Lyman's Moly lube or 50/50 BW/Alox.

A buddy of mine up here bought a couple sets of Lee dies and makes .330" bullets out of .338's.
I think he also has a set of these Lee dies to make .315" out of .323" bullets.

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #358183 - 16/11/21 07:23 PM

What is a .30 Super rimless?

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: NitroX]
      #358184 - 16/11/21 10:24 PM

Thank you Daryl!

PH

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: NitroX]
      #358195 - 17/11/21 04:35 AM

Quote:

What is a .30 Super rimless?



I'm thinking it is likely a .300 H&H.

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: DarylS]
      #358367 - 21/11/21 03:14 AM

Here is one for sale in my country...

$7850 or Can $9920

https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=230209020

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Re: Just Found This for Sale At Tradeexcanada [Re: Northman]
      #358371 - 21/11/21 06:06 AM

That's nicer.

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