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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #336003 - 31/12/19 10:03 PM

Unusual engraving style......not normally my preferred type whatsoever, but on this rifle it is rather nice indeed! Marvellous work & using an engraving style that would compliment the rifle rather than detract in looks.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #340708 - 03/05/20 10:15 PM

C.G. HAENEL MANNLICHER SPORTING RIFLE WITH SCARCE PIVOTING BOLT STOP SIGHT, 8x57I , SN 10456













https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=445211

C. G. HAENEL SUHL , 8,5 mm caliber so maybe 9x57, SN 6941591 (???)
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/6353424/#







C.G.Haenel 8x57, SN4211






here together with a E.Nordheim M98 in 8x57

https://www.icollector.com/Two-Engraved-...Rifle_i24907071




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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #341244 - 20/05/20 01:28 PM

looks like a real sporter made by using a surplus rifle, no 9x56 but could be a 9x57 mauser wheere the 9x56 fits https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/ku...ch-1905--184574







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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #341342 - 24/05/20 04:45 PM

"Lot 50
A SCARCE MAUSER MODEL 1891 RIFLE AND SINGLE BARREL SHOTGUN BY THIEME UND SCHLEGELMILCH, SUHL, NO. 126513, CIRCA 1895
A SCARCE MAUSER MODEL 1891 RIFLE AND SINGLE BARREL SHOTGUN BY THIEME UND SCHLEGELMILCH, SUHL, NO. 126513, CIRCA 1895
The sighted part octagonal barrel with matte integral rib, engraved and color-hardened action, trigger-guard with engraved spur, double triggers, shotgun barrel with horn under-lever, varnished walnut stock, with checkered pistol-grip, "cross-over" butt stock with secondary detachable cheekpiece, steel butt-plate with trap
24 inch (61 cm.) barrel
Blued finish to both barrels fading, action maintains vivid colors, lacking original scope, stock finish in excellent condition
6.5 x 57mm over 12 gauge
A similar combination rifle/shotgun by P. Oberhammer, Munchen which is part of the Tower of London Collection is pictured as plate 136 in Hunting Rifles by Howard L. Blackmore
Thieme und Schlegelmilch, Suhl, partnership of Adolph Thieme and Friedrich Wilhelm Schlegelmilch"
https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/a-scarce-mauser-model-1891-rifle-and-2086492-details.aspx






it seems a surplus action model 91( short rifle for artillery

developt from the model 88 cavalry carbine)

was used by thieme&schlegelmilch in suhl to build this unique combination gun for oberhammer in münchen

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #342309 - 15/06/20 01:00 AM

"Thieme & Schlegelmilch - Suhl" - "Nimrod - Gewehr - Fabrik"
8x57I SN 31864 https://www.hermann-historica.de/de/auctions/lot/id/83660





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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #342552 - 20/06/20 11:07 AM

Here is a Westley Richards single shot sporter in .32/40 with a modified M88 action. The magazine has been removed and replaced with a solid loading trough. The 25" barrel is marked "Westley Richards & Co. London". Matching serial no throughout. load stamp of 22 gr cordite & 165 gr projectile under barrel. I was interested to see how it would shoot with some vintage Kynoch rounds (1964 production) and it grouped nicely at 75 yds.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/w2oj8wu3q3u3u5z/WR%20M88%20.32-40%20a%20%282%29.jpg?dl=0

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: Spud303]
      #342557 - 20/06/20 06:39 PM

thats an interesting one





bolt handle looks like my m 92 Mannlicher in .375NE





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Edited by lancaster (20/06/20 06:41 PM)

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #349331 - 17/01/21 02:49 AM













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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #349332 - 17/01/21 02:51 AM

So how does it actually work? Turning the barrels back and forth?

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: Bokmal]
      #349353 - 17/01/21 07:25 AM

they were made with M 88 actions and M 98 actions

here is a M 98 but the shotgun barrels works the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2WCpXgGM50

and yes I would like to have one of this, do not care about the action then

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Edited by lancaster (17/01/21 07:27 AM)

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #349355 - 17/01/21 08:56 AM

Great workmanship to say the least Lancaster!
Fantastic find once more matey

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #350960 - 01/03/21 07:00 AM

Wilhelm Brenneke Leipzig -Suhl, 8x57I
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=13617748

think it was made by someone in suhl, haenel or schilling





















































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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #350964 - 01/03/21 08:44 AM

Wonderful old piece Lancaster, might have travelled a mile or 2 in its day.
Still very capable of bringing home the bacon.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #350976 - 01/03/21 02:22 PM

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Wow that is unusual and different.

And I guess the rifle's magazine still functions for the rifle barrel?

Might not be quick swapping from one barrel to the other.

If the anti crazies ever get their wish and ban firearms and we end up getting ONE only as some suggest, something like this might get produced again.

It looks like a scope might be able to be mounted on the rifle barrel as well.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #350977 - 01/03/21 02:26 PM

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Wilhelm Brenneke Leipzig -Suhl, 8x57I
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=13617748

think it was made by someone in suhl, haenel or schilling








One of these would make a nice wall hamger, a military version, preferably from the Tanzania WW1 campaign. I think the were M88's?

A sporting rifle like this, would make such a lovely vintage hunting rifle.

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Edited by NitroX (02/03/21 01:37 AM)

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: NitroX]
      #350998 - 01/03/21 08:00 PM

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One of these would make a nice wall hamger, a military version, preferably from the Tanzania WW1 campaign. I think the were M88's?





Per this 'site, quite a variety of arms were used by the Schutztruppe: http://s400910952.websitehome.co.uk/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/rifles.htm

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Edited by NitroX (02/03/21 01:37 AM)

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #351003 - 02/03/21 01:39 AM

Quote:

Quote:



One of these would make a nice wall hamger, a military version, preferably from the Tanzania WW1 campaign. I think the were M88's?





Per this 'site, quite a variety of arms were used by the Schutztruppe: http://s400910952.websitehome.co.uk/germancolonialuniforms/militaria/rifles.htm



Yes the model 1871 in 11 mm (?) was probably more likely.

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Edited by NitroX (02/03/21 01:48 AM)

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: NitroX]
      #351004 - 02/03/21 01:42 AM

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New Guinea Polizeitruppe
The first local police soldiers of the German New Guinea Company were armed with converted French Chassepot carbines. These were soon replaced by the Kar71. Later photographs most commonly show them armed with the Gew88. The German reservists that served against the Australian invasion in 1914 were armed with the Gew88.



Something that really is largely not recorded in history. I know next to nothing of it.


New Guinea Polizeitruppe, Friedrich-Wilhelmshafen 1899
They have Kar71 carbines stacked and an obsolete muzzle loading canon in the foreground.
Photo © Frankfurt University Koloniales Bildarchiv


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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: NitroX]
      #351043 - 02/03/21 06:14 PM




Not from the African campaigns, but I still like this little Gewehr 1888/91:



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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #351223 - 08/03/21 08:34 AM

I just picked up one just like it! Beautiful little carbines.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #353511 - 17/05/21 05:33 PM

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Eduard Kettner Köln Mod. 88 in 9x57 Mauser
scope is a Hensoldt Duralyt 6x on claw mount









Rifle keeping a tally.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #363187 - 07/03/22 06:53 PM

8x57I https://bid.wardsauctions.com/Non-Restri...-Chec_i44455452
serial # 6158

















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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #368526 - 22/08/22 05:04 PM

V.C. Schilling 8x57 I https://huntershouse.dk/kat120-Detaljer/side20081-V.-Chr.-Schilling-Suhl-8x57J.html







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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #368535 - 22/08/22 09:04 PM

Lovey pieces for their age Lancaster - marvellous pieces of kit those pop up peeps!

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #369771 - 02/10/22 10:16 PM

nice 8x57I https://www.zbrane.cz/bazar/inzerat/mauser-8-64-js-5407

whats interesting about this the 3 feet or Mannlicher Schönauer claw mount is in this case a 4 feet mount with two claws on the rear feet - never see this before









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