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Thank you for the confirmation, Lancaster.
My apology, Nitrox, it's really Empire Tea, as you mentioned it; I should not have forgotten rule n°.1: "The Forum's Boss is always right"!
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While tea would be more pukka, I would enjoy a good coffee in such a setting.

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Not sure, but may be Papua new Guinea ?

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The boys look to be African Negro, not NG/South Pacific Melanesian.

The hat on the boy looks like Southern States of America and the dog looks like a doggo or similar breed, so maybe Cewntral or Southern America.

Or well dressed mission boys in a German African colony? Who knows?

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There are old pictures from the german colonies of New Guinea. The black people from the german auxiliary troops don't look very typical melanesian.

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it looks like sugar cane so a lot of south sea islands are possible.

question is what did they hunt?

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question is what did they hunt?

My guess is hunting pigs with the dog.

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There are old pictures from the german colonies of New Guinea. The black people from the german auxiliary troops don't look very typical melanesian.

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having lived in the coastal and mountainous areas of PNG I can say they are not from PNG. Not aware of the Germans bringing Africans or similar to PNG. Being not aware of it does not mean they didn't.

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What do you think? Amy chance of the Moluccan Rusa deer hunting on the Bensbach Plains and similar places every re-opening again?

Did you ever do any hunting in PNG?

Maybe start up a new thread, if you wish to answer in detail.

I would also love to hear of your experiences in PNG as well.

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Hi Lancaster, that's the photo.

I hadn't noticed the A-5 earlier. I don't know why two men would be carrying rifles and the other a shotgun - maybe just a staged photo?

As to the location of the shot, those rocks are likely still there wherever it is.

As to the Mauser, I guess the question is whether it's a magnum action. Seems so to me but it's very hard to tell from photos (for me). If it's not a magnum action, it could be a 9.3x62 or 10.75x68. The cartridge belt appears in the photo but is of no help unfortunately.

Speed notes that there are records of 6 Mauser B's in 8x75 being delivered to 'customers' in southwest Africa in the 1930's, seeming to imply that those are the only records of original Mauser sporting rifles in that caliber. Not sure what he means by southwest Africa and why he didn't name the country. Modern day Angola, Namibia? Botswana or the western part of South Africa?

It seems there were no cheap rifles built in 8x75 - only original Mausers or other very high quality German arms.

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I would like to hear more about the 8x75, perhaps in a Mauser forums new thread? So it is based on the .404 Jeffery, or the German version the 10.75x73. How doe sit compare ballistically to the 8x68S? Which came first? etc.

Edited: Or is it based on the 9.3x74R as is the 8x75R? Which would be lesser ballistically than a case based on the .404.


Interesting the 8x68S can use the same bolt head as the .404 Jeffery. I have never looked at case dimensions to see how different or similar they are.

As for South West Africa and why a country was not named, Speed does! German South West Africa was the name of the German colony, then South African SW Africa before it became Namibia.

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Wonder who those 1930's Mauser 'customers' were? German expats, dealers?

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I would like to hear more about the 8x75, perhaps in a Mauser forums new thread? So it is based on the .404 Jeffery, or the German version the 10.75x73. How doe sit compare ballistically to the 8x68S? Which came first? etc.
Edited: Or is it based on the 9.3x74R as is the 8x75R? Which would be lesser ballistically than a case based on the .404.
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having lived in the coastal and mountainous areas of PNG I can say they are not from PNG. Not aware of the Germans bringing Africans or similar to PNG. Being not aware of it does not mean they didn't.

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What do you think? Amy chance of the Moluccan Rusa deer hunting on the Bensbach Plains and similar places every re-opening again?

Did you ever do any hunting in PNG?

Maybe start up a new thread, if you wish to answer in detail.

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I was only a kid while up there so not too much to tell. What I did observe of the world while up there certainly influenced my knowledge of people, customs, beliefs and general view on life to some extent. This was back in the mid 60's.

Yes there was racism up there but there was also a lot of people who weren't but called a spade a spade and not a Fulcrum principled, manually operated piece of earth moving equipment.

Come to think of it I will start a thread on my days off next week. There are some funny tales and interesting observations.

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