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vandeusenps
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H&H Paradox is up for sale!
      #350865 - 27/02/21 01:50 AM

Guys, I figured I would let you know that my H&H Paradox is up for sale! See my range report in a previous post. I have listed it on an auction site, PM me for a link.

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: vandeusenps]
      #350867 - 27/02/21 02:09 AM

Look right here for that range report.

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: tinker]
      #352023 - 05/04/21 08:47 AM

Has this gun sold?

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Docbill]
      #352157 - 08/04/21 10:28 PM

What site is it listed on?

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Longknife
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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Docbill]
      #352253 - 11/04/21 12:41 AM

It sold on Gun Groker, I put a bid in but let it go to the other bidder, my mistake, should have kept bidding!!

Edited by Longknife (11/04/21 12:44 AM)


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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Longknife]
      #352254 - 11/04/21 12:41 AM

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/893472702

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Longknife]
      #352255 - 11/04/21 01:02 AM

I think he'd have done better if he'd posted here a link to the auction.

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: vandeusenps]
      #352291 - 11/04/21 08:07 PM

If you don't mind, I would like to add your auction images to your original thread.

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: NitroX]
      #352296 - 11/04/21 09:17 PM

There's a best quality 8 bore H&H Paradox in the current Rock Island auction. If you are man enough . . .

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...us-game-shotgun

Now, that will rock your world!

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Longknife
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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: CptCurl]
      #352540 - 20/04/21 10:39 PM

Capt. Unfortunately my state will not allow an 8 gauge for hunting so I may bid on this one....
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/82/271

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Longknife]
      #352546 - 21/04/21 02:34 AM

Now that is a nice one, Ed. Now the H&H is too, of course, but it isn't a ML with 2 sets of bls.
Good luck with the auction.
Really nice.

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Longknife]
      #352550 - 21/04/21 05:23 AM

Quote:

Capt. Unfortunately my state will not allow an 8 gauge for hunting so I may bid on this one....
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/82/271



Shame about not using an 8 bore Longknife!
Mind you the exploding bullets wold be an interesting turn of events for the second rifle!
I wonder how they were made, even looks as though it has the mould for that old girl as well?
Best of luck at the auction mate
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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: 93x64mm]
      #352557 - 21/04/21 12:25 PM

Those 2 moulds might cast different parts of the exploding bullet/as-per James Forsyth's instructions in his book "The Sporting Rifle and it's Projectiles".
If you can get the compounds:
5 parts Potassium Chlorate
1 part Sulfur - I used Sublimed Sulfur (Flour of Sulfur)
1 part charcoal - I used ground up briquets

This is the detonating compound and works "a treat".

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: DarylS]
      #352561 - 21/04/21 01:46 PM

but will a 12 ga with exploding bullet will be a real substituten for a 8 ga?
nice muzzle loader








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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: lancaster]
      #352562 - 21/04/21 01:50 PM

the 8 ga

























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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: lancaster]
      #352563 - 21/04/21 02:06 PM

Don't know the answer to that, lancaster. It depends on what a person wants.
Here, in Canada, even simply possession of exploding bullets is frowned upon. The ML should
develop much higher MV (maybe) - but will that overcome the much larger, heavier conical of
the 8 bore?
The 8 should be the more powerful, however much depends on what a person wants.
I personally would be much happier with the multi-barrel set on the percussion double.

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: DarylS]
      #352575 - 22/04/21 01:31 AM

8 bore or 12 bore? I am sure the 12 bore would be good for any game animal on the American continent,,,,and it is a legal caliber here, minus the exploding part, which is illegal here too. It would be interesting to try the hollow points in it though.,,, Now the 8 bore! Yes it would be fun to shoot,,,a few times,but hunting from a stand 15 ft in the air, that might get a little scarey Too , it is illegal to use in my area,, and then there is the cost,,,,,8 bore 2 times the value of the 12 bore,,,I would have to go with the 12 bore, for my use,,, But if you NEED and 8 bore, then you need the 8 bore,,, Hmm. should have bid up that H&H posted above!!??? Decisions , decisions....,,,Ed

Edited by Longknife (22/04/21 01:41 AM)


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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: Longknife]
      #352579 - 22/04/21 04:09 AM

but how do they load an exploding bullet with a primer on top into a muzzle loader? only a hollow ramrod and than good luck?

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Re: H&H Paradox is up for sale! [Re: lancaster]
      #352582 - 22/04/21 04:40 AM

No primer.
Ignition is obtained through compression of the compound inside the slug.
The 8 bore might also produce or be capable of producing more fpe/joules than allowed by the May 1st order-in-council-law. I think the .460 WTBY is also over the limit, ie: now prohibited.

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