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EDELWEISS
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Traditions Express O/U Muzzleloader?
      #351432 - 16/03/21 07:22 AM

I just stumbled onto an article about the Traditions Express O/U rifle. That lead me to a few others; but they were all from the 2008-2010 era. I cant find anything new or any source for the gun.

I suspect it may have been ahead of its time. Basically it was an O/U rifle with a closed breach that used 209 primers. So it looked like a modern O/U rifle or shotgun. It was supposedly safe to shoot 150grs of BP (hence the Express moniker).

I will admit some interest; but since it doesnt seem to be available I guess it doesnt matter.

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TH44
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Re: Traditions Express O/U Muzzleloader? [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #351435 - 16/03/21 11:06 AM

Edelweiss
Not sure what you are asking but here is an old French O/U DR as an example I bought many years ago









Bayonet/knife bar??? + very fine Damascus



Ramrod on left



Gastignne Renette, a top French maker

TH44


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EDELWEISS
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Re: Traditions Express O/U Muzzleloader? [Re: TH44]
      #351464 - 17/03/21 10:16 AM

Honestly Im not sure where Im going either. I stumbled upon reports of the gun and thought it was kinda cool, then when I tried find one, they are no longer available. Maybe it didnt sell but the decision to cancel it seems like it came quick. I havent found any reports of issues with it either.

IDK maybe it was ahead of its time

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Re: Traditions Express O/U Muzzleloader? [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #351489 - 18/03/21 06:06 AM

Years ago, in the early 90's maybe, there was an over/under side hammer rifle, put out by Ithaca, seems to me.
The only write-up on it I saw, noted ignition lagging or misfires for the bottom barrel due, I suspect, to the long flash channel from the powder to the cap. Of course, if one loaded the rifle with that in mind, a thump on the ground or with the hand would introduce powder into that channel and solve the ignition problem.

Nice rifle, TH44. Looks like a bayonet mount for sure. Typical "European" design. Seems to me the Baker rifle and the cap-lock Swedish Kongsberg military rifles had very similar bayonet mounts.

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