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3DogMike
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W&C Scott and Rigby
      #350537 - 19/02/21 06:38 AM

Double Rifle photos, both are solid shooters.
- Mike

W&C Scott .500/.450 3 1/4" NE, made about 1899





Rigby .470NE, class C grade, sold to retailer J.T. Hartwell in January 1919





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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: 3DogMike]
      #350542 - 19/02/21 07:40 AM

Both are GREAT!!
I know the market doesn’t seem to like Nitro hammer rifles but I think they are super cool.
Especially with a Jones underlever.

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: Huvius]
      #350546 - 19/02/21 07:59 AM

Thanks Ben,
Both would likely have originally gone to, or been intended for India.
The Rigby has a faint 3 digit "Maharaja number" behind the pistol grip.

The Scott shows very little wear and perfect bores/rifling so was probably caught up in the India/Sudan ban on .450's and fired little if at all from ~1899 to the ban. Thereafter maybe just languished in a cabinet because hammer rifles and the .500/.450 3 1/4" had become dated and out of fashion?
I have found that neck expanded and fireformed .500/.416 brass are the easiest and least expensive way to get this .500/.450 shooting.

The Rigby's buyer, J.T. Hartwell, traded as a "Gun and Rifle Maker" at 5a West Chapel Street then all of 5 West Chapel Street, London from 1919 to 1925, the Jones Underlever and hammers on the Rigby are pretty unusual for as late as 1919.
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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: 3DogMike]
      #350548 - 19/02/21 09:06 AM

Jack Lott used a hammer(ed) .577 Nitro on cape buffalo. I can still picture, the picture. Seems to me, he was holding a ctg. in his right hand's fingers. (not quite positive on that)

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: Daryl_S]
      #350552 - 19/02/21 09:16 AM

Quote:

Jack Lott used a hammer(ed) .577 Nitro on cape buffalo. I can still picture, the picture. Seems to me, he was holding a ctg. in his right hand's fingers. (not quite positive on that)



Hi Daryl,
Yep, That picture was in a Jack Lott article in Gun Digest, will have to go look for it. Lott was a huge fan of Jones Underlever Hammer rifles because they can be opened & reloaded quite silently.
- Mike

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: 3DogMike]
      #350615 - 20/02/21 03:48 AM

Gorgeous...thanks for sharing!!

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: Huvius]
      #350670 - 20/02/21 06:46 PM

Quote:

Both are GREAT!!
I know the market doesn’t seem to like Nitro hammer rifles but I think they are super cool.
Especially with a Jones underlever.




I agree.

I could be happy using double rifles with hammers all the time.

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: NitroX]
      #350697 - 21/02/21 02:40 PM

Still have to dig out the Gun Digest with that Jack Lott article for Daryl.
Hard to get motivated with freezing & snow ......... detached shop is not heated unless I fire up the wood stove about 2 hours ahead of time.
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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: 3DogMike]
      #350735 - 22/02/21 12:08 PM

All 3 of my H&H double hammer rifles (10 bore Paradox, 8 bore ball gun & .500 X 3 1/4" BPE) were almost certainly made by W&C Scott (pre 1892 of their [H&H] new factory)
[If anyone has pics of Phillip Webley rifles of that era please post pics] as they also made H&H guns and rifles
Always the standard for hammer rifles in that era, W&C Scott were pre eminent in that field

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: TH44]
      #350738 - 22/02/21 02:25 PM

The article was called "Make Mine a Side Hammer" by Jack Lott. I have the article, Mike. I forgot about that. It's in a folder on my desk top. Someone from here, sent it to me and I can not remember who it was - some things are just simply - gone!

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: Daryl_S]
      #350752 - 22/02/21 06:09 PM

Quote:

The article was called "Make Mine a Side Hammer" by Jack Lott. I have the article, Mike. I forgot about that. It's in a folder on my desk top. Someone from here, sent it to me and I can not remember who it was - some things are just simply - gone!




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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: NitroX]
      #350768 - 23/02/21 03:58 AM

That's it.

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: Daryl_S]
      #350790 - 24/02/21 12:20 PM

Nice rifles! Thanks for posting them.

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Re: W&C Scott and Rigby [Re: CptCurl]
      #350915 - 28/02/21 09:21 AM

Nice thread...keep fueling..

Can never be tired at looking at hammer doublerifles.


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