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I'm not ashamed to say, I'm almost jealous here

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Me too.

I thought in the past those stutzen barrels were shortish, and not ideal for a .222 and decent velocity but yours looks long enough and confirmed at 60 cm or 24 inch, ideal length.

I want one!

Always wanted an L46 Sako in .222 but the normal rifle model. Now I want a stutzen! Ha ha. Perhaps one day if God smiles on me.

I know so many wise tasteful guys have a L46 .222. They are real collectors items. The stutzen is just that even more special.

You do need a bigger than 3x scope on a .222. Head shooting foxes, hares, rabbits at 15- to 200 metres. Wallabies, Wallaroos and roos where legal. Goats and feral pigs as well. I insist on a minimunm of a 6x on a .22 centrefire and prefer a 8x or variable to 9x or 10x.

I wish we had roe deer to use a .222 on.

Well done to Igorrock and Lancaster. Great to see our good members being such good guys and helping out.

Lovely rifle. Great purchase. Well done.

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I have not dropped my initial intent of fitting the rifle with a 3-9 rifle scope, however the only not Asian-made one (to my knowledge) that is short enough (less than 30cm-long) is the Swarovski Z3 3-9x36; unfortunately the maker has stopped some years ago to sell the Z3 range in Europe, second-hand ones are really rare on the local market for the time being, I do not want to order one in the US in order to avoid troublesome ITAR regulatory regime and the manager of a rifle shop I buy from once in Montréal (Canada) has told me that they are bound by Swarovski not to export to Europe; but sooner or later I will get one!

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I have not dropped my initial intent of fitting the rifle with a 3-9 rifle scope, however the only not Asian-made one (to my knowledge) that is short enough (less than 30cm-long) is the Swarovski Z3 3-9x36; unfortunately the maker has stopped some years ago to sell the Z3 range in Europe, second-hand ones are really rare on the local market for the time being, I do not want to order one in the US in order to avoid troublesome ITAR regulatory regime and the manager of a rifle shop I buy from once in Montréal (Canada) has told me that they are bound by Swarovski not to export to Europe; but sooner or later I will get one!

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https://www.thebarn.net.au/Products/Swarovski+Z3+3-9x36+4A+Reticle/8367

https://buyusedguns.com.au/listings/swarovski-z3-3-9x36/#basic-details

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If you ask me I would say "Yes",we can change the scope mount here so it takes the kahles scope

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Report on a Forum Nitro Express team effort.

Thanks to Ripp’s post “222 Remington Rifle Cartridge Family Portrait”
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=345355&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1 , as well as to Marrakai and to .264 that shared with us photos of their respective Sako Riihimäki stutzen rifles L46 & L461 in .222, I was infected by the L46 virus in late 2020 and managed to convince myself that I was missing such a nice .222 stutzen bolt action rifle on my gun rack!

I then started trawling the net for such a beauty: almost never seen in France where I reside, extremely uncommon in Germany, Austria and the UK where I buy from on a regular basis, available from time to time in the US and in Australia but commanding high prices there, in addition to probable troublesome shipping issues and side costs to be expected. I decided therefore to explore opportunities in Finland, Sako’s home country, and immediately found one for sale online, in addition at palatable cost.

I sought - at that point, support from our Finish Forum member Igorrock for making initial contact with the seller, who unfortunately declined to sell outside Finland; however Igorrock kindly found almost immediately a similar rifle for sale and - icing on the cake, at a price lower than the previous one!

In December 2020, once all paperwork expedited – a simple & smooth process within the European Union even in Covid-19 time, the rifle was at home.

Sako L46 rifles were manufactured in Riihimäki (Finland) from September 1946 until September 1962. This one’s serial number #28507 dates her to 1955, according to Internet sources. She is a “Sweet Little Sixty-Six” (referring to Chuck Berry’s “Sweet Little Sixteen”); a real little gem (but I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder) of 107 cm length, with a 60 cm shinning barrel, weighing 2,9 kilos unscopped. She came to me with a five-round magazine and I managed to find three additional ones from other sources; magazines are always a potential issue with out-of-production rifles, so I preferred to get some spare ones from start.

This pretty little stutzen was sold unscopped and Igorrock sourced in Finland original Sako steel scope mounts, specifically engineered for the tronconic shape of the rifle’s rail, an oddity.
1 as well as to Igorrock and to Lancaster for making this lucky acquisition possible.

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Nice job Louis..

Nice to know I had at least one positive effect on someone..

I love the full stocked Sako's..

Have a nice Sako in .222 but not full stocked like this..

Congrats again..

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Very nice rifle Lynn, thank you for sharing with us; I note that the rear scope has been removed as on many L46, was it for fitting the original rifle-scope ?
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Very nice rifle Lynn, thank you for sharing with us; I note that the rear scope has been removed as on many L46, was it for fitting the original rifle-scope ?
Rpeck (Canada) also posted some months ago pictures of a very nice L46 almost similar to yours, but in the 7x33 calibre.
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About the title: Sako L46 Riihimäki stutzen in .222 Remington
I thought that Stutzen meant not only full stocked, but short full stocked rifle. Just curious. Perhaps someone who knows the German language could enlighten me
because I do not know. I tried wikipedia but no success there.

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About the title: Sako L46 Riihimäki stutzen in .222 Remington
I thought that Stutzen meant not only full stocked, but short full stocked rifle. Just curious. Perhaps someone who knows the German language could enlighten me
because I do not know. I tried wikipedia but no success there.

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„Stutzen“ comes from the German verb stutzen, meaning to shorten or to clip. Formerly, from muzzleloader times on, it was used in the southernmost areas of the German language for any rifle shorter than a full length military musket, regardless of full or half stock or actual barrel length. Bavarians and Austrians spelled it Stutzen, the Swiss Stutzer. Added words often defined the purpose of the rifle- so there are “Scheibenstutzen”= target rifles, “Zimmerstutzen” = 4 mm rimfire parlor rifles, “Feldstutzer” = muzzleloading Swiss military sharpshooter rifles, and many more. Some, like the Austrian “Ischler Stutzen” are full stocked, most others not.
In central or northern Germany the designation was unknown. Most Germans called the things simply “Büchse” or, if short, “Karabiner”. This changed post-1900 only. In 1905 the Steyr factory started to offer their Mannlicher – Schoenauer sporters in Germany. As Austrians the Steyr people advertised all their hunting rifles as “Repetierstutzen”, still regardless of the short barrel, full stocked carbine or the longer barreled, half stocked rifle versions. Their short, handy carbines became much more popular all over Germany than the longer rifles. Soon the word “Stutzen” became associated with such short, fullstocked rifles all over Germany. So by now a “Stutzen” is understood as a full stocked, most often short hunting rifle. Some rifles with barrels up to 60 cm = 24” may be called Stutzen too if stocked to the muzzle, but never a half stocked carbine regardless of barrel shortness. "Stutzen" now is used in the same way as Americans use "Mannlicher stocked" in most of Germany. Of course, Austrians are still apt to call any sporting rifle a “Stutzen”. Quite recently I have even read “Doppelstutzen” for a double rifle.

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Thanks for this explanation. As always well explained.

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About the title: Sako L46 Riihimäki stutzen in .222 Remington
I thought that Stutzen meant not only full stocked, but short full stocked rifle. Just curious. Perhaps someone who knows the German language could enlighten me
because I do not know. I tried wikipedia but no success there.

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„Stutzen“ comes from the German verb stutzen, meaning to shorten or to clip. Formerly, from muzzleloader times on, it was used in the southernmost areas of the German language for any rifle shorter than a full length military musket, regardless of full or half stock or actual barrel length. Bavarians and Austrians spelled it Stutzen, the Swiss Stutzer. Added words often defined the purpose of the rifle- so there are “Scheibenstutzen”= target rifles, “Zimmerstutzen” = 4 mm rimfire parlor rifles, “Feldstutzer” = muzzleloading Swiss military sharpshooter rifles, and many more. Some, like the Austrian “Ischler Stutzen” are full stocked, most others not.
In central or northern Germany the designation was unknown. Most Germans called the things simply “Büchse” or, if short, “Karabiner”. This changed post-1900 only. In 1905 the Steyr factory started to offer their Mannlicher – Schoenauer sporters in Germany. As Austrians the Steyr people advertised all their hunting rifles as “Repetierstutzen”, still regardless of the short barrel, full stocked carbine or the longer barreled, half stocked rifle versions. Their short, handy carbines became much more popular all over Germany than the longer rifles. Soon the word “Stutzen” became associated with such short, fullstocked rifles all over Germany. So by now a “Stutzen” is understood as a full stocked, most often short hunting rifle. Some rifles with barrels up to 60 cm = 24” may be called Stutzen too if stocked to the muzzle, but never a half stocked carbine regardless of barrel shortness. "Stutzen" now is used in the same way as Americans use "Mannlicher stocked" in most of Germany. Of course, Austrians are still apt to call any sporting rifle a “Stutzen”. Quite recently I have even read “Doppelstutzen” for a double rifle.

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About the title: Sako L46 Riihimäki stutzen in .222 Remington
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„Stutzen“ comes from the German verb stutzen, meaning to shorten or to clip. Formerly, from muzzleloader times on, it was used in the southernmost areas of the German language for any rifle shorter than a full length military musket, regardless of full or half stock or actual barrel length. Bavarians and Austrians spelled it Stutzen, the Swiss Stutzer. Added words often defined the purpose of the rifle- so there are “Scheibenstutzen”= target rifles, “Zimmerstutzen” = 4 mm rimfire parlor rifles, “Feldstutzer” = muzzleloading Swiss military sharpshooter rifles, and many more. Some, like the Austrian “Ischler Stutzen” are full stocked, most others not.
In central or northern Germany the designation was unknown. Most Germans called the things simply “Büchse” or, if short, “Karabiner”. This changed post-1900 only. In 1905 the Steyr factory started to offer their Mannlicher – Schoenauer sporters in Germany. As Austrians the Steyr people advertised all their hunting rifles as “Repetierstutzen”, still regardless of the short barrel, full stocked carbine or the longer barreled, half stocked rifle versions. Their short, handy carbines became much more popular all over Germany than the longer rifles. Soon the word “Stutzen” became associated with such short, fullstocked rifles all over Germany. So by now a “Stutzen” is understood as a full stocked, most often short hunting rifle. Some rifles with barrels up to 60 cm = 24” may be called Stutzen too if stocked to the muzzle, but never a half stocked carbine regardless of barrel shortness. "Stutzen" now is used in the same way as Americans use "Mannlicher stocked" in most of Germany. Of course, Austrians are still apt to call any sporting rifle a “Stutzen”. Quite recently I have even read “Doppelstutzen” for a double rifle.

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Excellent Mick, also looking forward to the photos.
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Mick and his .222 buffalo photos!

Ha ha.

Maybe a piglet?

A dingo or wild dog?

Some nice small wallabies in the NT, but can one shoot them without a spear and darkened face? OK that was very un-PC.

Looking forward to see the rifle photos as well.

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Since Covid-19 lockdown (the previous one before the future one) was lifted last week in France I went to the range this week for checking my 7x65R kipplauf before roe buck season starts on 1st of June and for shooting the SAKO L46 .222 at 200 meters.

The L46’s results at 100 m, 20 mm / 0,78 in groups for 3 shots, were consistent with the similar result I already had in February 2021; for 200 m the best I could do was 45 mm / 1,77 in for 3 shots. I am sure the little rifle could do much better however with a x4 rifle scope I can’t see much room for improvement on my side whatever the Swarovski optic’s quality is. I also noticed a 5 cm / 2 in drop of impacts between 100 & 200 m. Anyway, such a group should do the job on any fox-sized target at 200 m; unless – of course, the beast is bullet-proofed!





Needless to say, I am deeply ashamed to report such a result at 200 m after learning from Daryl (see his post in “Rifles”) that other folks shoot 1,068-in groups at 1000 yards !

Side questions:
- Mike .264, have you mounted and tested the Leupold 2-7; if yes, how does it work?
- Mike .264 or/and Marrakai or/and Rpeck and/or Igorrock, could you please tell me how to dismantle the bolt for thorough cleaning as I could not find any information or user’s manual available online?

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Yes Louis, I would say that is more than good enough for roe buck.. that is unless he is wearing a mask..I've those things can make most living creatures unstoppable..

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