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One of our European members posted on here but has deleted the thread? Why? Pity.

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One of our European members posted on here but has deleted the thread? Why? Pity.

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It is due to the impossibility of building a discussion.

Ones write something and no answer for days so that ones no longer know whether there is actually interest in the topic or not. Some then have different feelings about their posting.

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It was a post from yesterday or last night, and two more posts today ... ?

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Funny this. Many of the most popular European cartridges have a British monica:

6.5x53R = .256 Mannlicher
6.5x54 = .256 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
7x57 = .275 Rigby
9.5 Mannlicher = .375 NE Rimless
10.75x73 = .404 Jeffery
etc etc

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Well I've always liked the different side of things compared to the average fella up here in NQ.

7x57 - Parker Hale M1100 lightweight
7x64 - BRNO 600
.308Norma Magnum - Parker Hale M1200........yep she's Swedish & can she go!
9.3x64 - Mark X....the article by Jack Lott won me, this round can top the .375H&H by a whisker, this is the one that really got me started into the big bores & more advanced reloading back in the 80's
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10.75x73mm or .404Jeffery - CZ550 Safari classic
I haven't the chance to try the .404 on pigs yet, but all the others do a spectacular job.
The old 7x57 did a top job on a Rusa stag a few years back, not breaking any speed or accuracy records but 140gn Noslers do a grand quartering job mushrooming perfectly; even if the bugger ran 50 yards & playing hard to find after being hit!

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Hey 9.3x64 I am not sure the 404J will be enough gun for pigs but I do know the 416 Rigby works just fine on feral cats

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In days gone by the norm here was 7x57 (R), 7x64, 8x57 and 6,5x57 (R) in the mountains...then the 30.06 began to catch up, followed with .308 and 300 win.mag...

Nowadays .308 prevails between locals, among clients 30.06 and 300 win mag with an odd 300 and 270 wsm is the norm.

I carry either 8x68S for serious work + 9,3x62 for tracking wounded game and 9,3x74R for pleasure when possible.

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I find it funny how things work. To me I would take a 7X64 or 8X57 for hunting anywhere over a 30-06 or 308. Yes I am a bit weird

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I had written that the cartridges that I use in my region are primarily intended for other types of hunting that I do worldwide. For that reason I am a little bit overgunned in my country.

Only the cartridge 8x57IS is in the norm , otherwise I use the cartridges 7mm Rem Mag , 300 H&H Magnum , 9,3x64 Brenneke and 10,75x68 Mauser. The latter for wild boar driven hunts.

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They all sound like good choices to me.

Twenty years ago here, if you used more than a .243 many considered a person over gunned!

I like your range of choices.

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Spending a year in old West Germany back in the early eighties I did quite a bit of hunting in various areas, used a 6.5x54 MS full stocked rifle to take my first Roe Buck, a 7x65R to take a doe and yearling, a 6.5x55 for another doe and can't recall what I was using for another buck. I carried a variety of other loan rifles on other hunts but can't recall what they were other than definitely do recall being handed an 8x57 with a loaded magazine by a farmer who had his own hunting area to do an evening hunt for roe deer. Once I found and climbed into the hochsitz I was given directions to my horror when opening the bolt I saw a variety of cartridges in the magazine, all 8x57 but I don't think any two were the same. Was praying that I didn't need to shoot, would likely have not attempted even if I did get a chance. Was not buck season so only shooting does however I wasn't about to sully my record to date for one shot kills.

Went on some driven hunts and chamois hunts but let my friends do most of the shooting as I had vastly more and varied hunting experience than my German acquaintances and by then had shot a pile of our various deer species, chamois and tahr so was happy just to be in the field with gun in hand and let my friends take animals.

Everyone used a variety of cartridges in various action types and seemed to try and match different cartridges and loadings for different game. I know there were calibre and energy limits for some game but personally I would have chosen a 222 or 243 for the small Roe deer or just stayed with a 7x57 or 7mm-08 and my favourite, a 140gr Sierra Gameking for everything. Much of the hunting is from the hochsitz so the shot can be picked and most avoid taking running shots at all cost unless they wound with the first shot or are on a driven game hunt. Running shots for me were bread and butter but when in Rome do as Romans do so I had to keep my finger off the trigger more than I normally would.

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Interesting post.

My experience has been my Europeans friends do a lot more running shooting that I do. The opposite to your experience. Running elg/alg/moose. And running boar and driven game hunts.

I have enjoyed joining friends and acquaintances in hochsitz. Never fired a shot from one myself though.

I would love a roebuck or two on the wall. I am envious of European friends here or over there with a "hundred" roebuck skull mounts on the wall. One or two would satisfy me. A proper shoulder mount too. When at University I used to walk past a store selling a lovely ceramic roe buck head. I would have loved to buy it. Out of my student wallet capacity at the time. Hunted them in several places but no "trophy" buck. Now I do have an invitation, starting 15 years ago or so from one good member to visit him. I should have back then. A few years ago he mentioned it again, when I wasn't heading to Europe anytime soon and two years ago again, when I was heading to Romania. Flying over to Bavaria should have been easy, but alas my wife had booked everything already and it could not be changed. I just want to visit a good guy and spend some time in his forests with him.

The 5.6x50 mm and R, makes a great roe deer choice as well. I need to find the pdf of an article I wrote on using one here in the Barossa.

Your experiences and time in Europe sounds like a very good experience.

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In days gone by the norm here was 7x57 (R), 7x64, 8x57 and 6,5x57 (R) in the mountains...then the 30.06 began to catch up, followed with .308 and 300 win.mag...

Nowadays .308 prevails between locals, among clients 30.06 and 300 win mag with an odd 300 and 270 wsm is the norm.

I carry either 8x68S for serious work + 9,3x62 for tracking wounded game and 9,3x74R for pleasure when possible.

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Once Joe Doe enters the store it is all down to prices, availability and stuff...and the .308 win is the winner...big time! Having said that - back in not that old days it was considered a marginal caliber for big bears, boars and stags, however as of latest with modern loads and bulets it is hard to ignore, truth be told it is a logical choice even over long range use - I'd take it anytime.

However - having a luxury of choice not bounded to the appropriateness but a shear luxury of free choice to feel deep European - anything of Mauser (57) or Brenneke (64) descendant gives you aplenty to choose from .. then there are many other cool calibers around that are rarely seen but are as such much more interesting to have around esp. since those are usually accompanied by a distinct owners that are very alike the calibers they carry - it is a nontheless a telling sign of a true character

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98mouse, you are a man of true character.

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Does 30-40 Krag count?

Im a huge fan of 9.3x74R for most 4 legged things larger than a Coyote. Ive always wanted something small and compact in 6.5x55.

I tried to find ammo and/or load data for 9x54R (9.3x54R). Id love to build a "Heavy" caliber on a Mosin Nagant; but I havent been able to find anything. I keep hearing it exists but I cant find it.

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