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crshelton
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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: mckinney]
      #348396 - 24/12/20 02:22 AM

The Parker grip cap is an interesting touch. I shoot Parkers, but none have pistol grips:


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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: mckinney]
      #348399 - 24/12/20 04:03 AM

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Tinker many thanks for the assist.

As for this rifle, I don't discount the possibility that it may be the work of a hobbyist - either originally or by way of later modifications.

The tapering of the forend doesn't seem very 1930's and even reminds me of some David Lloyd rifles.

I'll take it apart this weekend and see if I can find anything useful.





Yes, thank you Tinker from me also. Glad I didn't miss this opportunity. This is an interesting rifle. And up front, congratulations to you, mckinney, on the bolt-mounted peep, a valuable item these days. I'm well-known as being a fan of these, but I've never actually seen one mounted on any model of Enfield. Great catch - wish I had about five of them for mine.

While you're taking photos this weekend, try to angle the camera in under the scope from both sides to get as much of the top of the receiver ring as possible.


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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: mckinney]
      #348862 - 05/01/21 12:40 PM

At one time I had a Remington Model 30 such as yours. It was all original. Looking at the pictures you posted I am led to assume your rifle was re-stocked at some time. By the quality of the stock I would believe it would have been done by one of the premier gunsmiths of America. During this time further work installing the Stith scope mounts, scope and the Pacific peep sight was done.

I do not know if Parker did custom work. I know they were a top tier maker of shotguns. Griffith and Howe make some high quality sporting rifles. They could have done the work.

Your rifle is exceptional.

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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: tinker]
      #349389 - 18/01/21 06:50 AM

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That device is very interesting and appears to be meant to hold the bolt closed when the rifle is cocked and the safety off.
Which can be a help when stalking close to game. American gunsmith Barney Worthen built sporterized 1903 Springfield rifles in the early 1900 and he added a spring loaded detent in the front of the rear safety lug that snapped into the back of the extractor. It did the same thing.
And a few of the last Mauser sporters had a detent powered by the trigger spring that protruded through the bottom of the action and fit a notch in the rear safety lug that also held the bolt closed

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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: mckinney]
      #349398 - 18/01/21 10:09 AM

Nice rifle.
Looks like a gunsmiths project. The Parker grip cap just a nice fit and touch. Parker never made any rifles AFAIK,,except for CW muskets. I'd think if it was a Parker/Remington factory job at least they'd have used a Parker grip cap screw.

The need for the bolt hold down I don't get.
Maybe the owner/builder had a bad experience with the rifle or another in the past and saw a need.
Some rifles have them like the commercial Mannlicher Shoenauer.




I like the Remington Model 30.
I picked up a 30s Express in 30-06 about a year and a half ago at a show for $250.
It sat there with no interest with a price tag of $300. The dealer thru the $250 price at me as soon as I asked to look at it.
Great condition, Lyman 48. The front ring and bbl had target scope blocks mounted. No scope. Story was the deceased owner was shooting 'long distance' (what ever that was).
I removed the bases and plugged the holes.


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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: 2152hq]
      #349401 - 18/01/21 11:48 AM

I agree that the grip cap and the additional bolt lock are probably add ons But the fact that Mauser and a couple other custom builders saw fit to include them is an indication some folks considered them important.

A few years back Nikki Atcheson got hammered by a Cape buffalo that charged and her bolt had been slightly bumped up out of battery and she couldn't get her shot off!

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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: 2152hq]
      #349417 - 19/01/21 03:07 AM

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I like the Remington Model 30.
I picked up a 30s Express in 30-06 about a year and a half ago at a show for $250.
It sat there with no interest with a price tag of $300. The dealer thru the $250 price at me as soon as I asked to look at it.
Great condition, Lyman 48. The front ring and bbl had target scope blocks mounted. No scope. Story was the deceased owner was shooting 'long distance' (what ever that was).
I removed the bases and plugged the holes.





The Lyman 48 alone was worth almost that.

As for the bolt detent, it's clearly an add-on. Possibly they were even available as an aftermarket bolt-on, since it's fastened by the peep sight mounting holes. I've often wondered if those holes were factory, since just about every photo of every Remington 30 I recall seeing had those same two holes.


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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: vykkagur]
      #349517 - 21/01/21 02:05 PM

Thanks for the comments guys. I thought this thread had died until I saw the most recent comment.

I did try to take the rifle out of the stock. However it is in there very tight and I was afraid to use the force required. Will try again when I have access to a proper vise. I looked the rifle, scope mounts, and peep sight over again for markings and found nothing new.

I sent a few pics of the rifle to George Caswell in the hope that he might know something. No response yet. There may be a Remington guru out there somewhere who knows.

I agree that it looks like a gunsmith project but the stock work does not look like G&H to me. Early G&H rifles usually have a pancake cheekpiece and later ones are of an entirely different shape. There is a gorgeous 30-S by G&H under 'sold items' on Mike Schwandt's website (schwandtclassicarms.com) which shows the later stock style. Well worth a look just to see the rifle. There is also a beautiful Niedner Springfield with a bolt peep made by E.H. Stahl on Mike's site. I don't believe the peep on my rifle is a Stahl.


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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: mckinney]
      #349524 - 21/01/21 03:19 PM

No need to shut this conversation down!

That rifle is too cool to sweep under the rug of daily posts.

Keep us updated on whatever you learn about it.

Also I'm waiting for a field report.
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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: tinker]
      #349536 - 21/01/21 10:25 PM

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No need to shut this conversation down!

That rifle is too cool to sweep under the rug of daily posts.

Keep us updated on whatever you learn about it.

Also I'm waiting for a field report.
:-)




You're now the only one there Tinker!


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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: 93x64mm]
      #349546 - 22/01/21 05:06 AM

I'm reading it.

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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: Daryl_S]
      #349565 - 22/01/21 07:35 PM

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I'm reading it.




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Re: Unusual Remington Model 30 [Re: vykkagur]
      #349569 - 22/01/21 09:57 PM

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I'm reading it.




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Add me to the list, No4.


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