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Kamikaze
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I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol !
#34889 - 20/07/05 01:59 PM

Videos of shooting the .600 Nitro Express pistol loaded on Nitroexpress.com

Yes, I survived, barely . . .

I've attached the info and video clips. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to contact me.

If you haven't already seen the images of the pistol, they are attached to a previous posting (6-25-05); just search under my User ID as "Kamikaze".

600 NITRO EXPRESS PISTOL ~
Frame – Thompson Center-Encore Pistol, S.S., Rynite grip and forend
Barrel - Van Horn-Encore, S.S., 17.25” (14.375”) straight bull, special S.S. muzzle brake
Scope mount - SSK T’SOB, S.S. ¼ rib, 6-screws
4 SSK S.S. scope rings
Scope – Weaver Classic, recoil-proof silver, 2x28mm, pistol
Brass – Horneber, .600 nitro Express
Bullets – Woodleigh, .620”, 900gr, jacketed RN soft nose
Bullets – Beartooth, .622”, 1040gr, lead FNPB
Powder – Hodgdon H4831
Primers – Large Rifle magnum
Loading Data:
1040 grain lead bullet
117gr Hodgdon 4831 powder
1200 FPS Muzzle Velocity (14” barrel length)
3600# Muzzle Energy (14” barrel length)
Loading Data (Full Nitro Loads):
900 grain jacketed bullet
158gr Hodgdon 4831 powder
1670 FPS Muzzle Velocity (14” barrel length)
5550# Muzzle Energy (14” barrel length)

The first photo is a comparison table of some of the big bore cartridges that I've fired from pistols. Please note, the first cartridge on the left is NOT the .375 JDJ. I'll have to research my records to identify this one. Thanks to a knowledgeable viewer who correctly pointed this out to me.

The first video clip is me shooting the "light loads"! You may want to increase or zoom the picture size to get the full impact of this experience.

The 2nd clip is an interested party willing to experience it! Carefully, observe what happens to this guy, and the final facial expression !

As you will see, I dare not shoot the full Nitro loads.

The 18mb video clip file may take a minute to load up.

600 Nitro Pistol

600 Nitro barrel Stamping

600 Nitro barrel bore

600 NE and 50-140 Sharps Dueling Pistols

Ammo Comparison Chart
VIDEO Kamikaze shoots 600 Lite Load

VIDEO Another Interested Crazy Person

Videos of shooting the .600 Nitro Express pistol

Thanks for viewing my post,
Kamikaze

Edited by NitroX (16/03/10 02:01 PM)

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34900 - 20/07/05 11:18 PM

You are a God Damn WILDMAN! Your handle of Kamikaze certainly does fit!

Talk about awesome! That barrel looks like it almost hit you in the head during recoil.

Going to shoot it again?

I think wrist supports are in order!

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Clark

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: clark7781]
#34907 - 21/07/05 02:30 AM

Clark,

Someone will have to pay me (in advance) to shoot this pistol again ! Or, at least make it worth my while.

No, the pistol didn't hit my head, but when I looked at the video in slo-mo, sure looked like it. Must have just missed me. My right wrist and hand are a bit sore today.

The scope did suffer a bit of damage when it hit the concrete flooring. Not too worried about the scope, it's cosmetic only. The weaver scope and SSK mount held up very well considering what happened. I recommend this combination to anyone shooting a "handcannon". No damage to the gun.

Since chambering a pistol in .600 Nitro Express is practically uncharted territory, I've decided to ship the gun, fired brass, etc to the barrel maker for a quick inspection of the chamber, locking lug, and the frame just to be on the safe side. So, if I ever get the notion (or finishing off a 6-pack of Bass Ale) to shoot it again, I'll be confident in the pistol's safety.

By the way, the other shooter kept the paper target as a momento.

Kamikaze

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34916 - 21/07/05 10:24 AM

Hey, how big are these videos? I'm on dial-up and don't want to lock up my poor-ol'-pc with a large download, 3-4 Megs?

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: 475Guy]
#34917 - 21/07/05 10:36 AM

475Guy

The first link Ammo Chart is just a picture and is .6 of a meg.

The first video, his second link, is 18 meg and the second video is 6 meg

Mike

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: 475Guy]
#34920 - 21/07/05 04:24 PM

The ammo table is about 1/2 meg, the 1st video clip is 18 megs, and the last is 6 megs.

Bob (kamikaze)

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Mike_McGuire]
#34921 - 21/07/05 04:26 PM

Mike,
What did you think of the video clips?

Bob (Kamikaze)

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34922 - 21/07/05 04:35 PM

Bob

You should get Saeed to include them with his 577 T Rex videos on AccurateReloading

The second video with the pistol flying out of shooters hand is as good as it gets.

As a side note, there was posted up quite some time ago some German gunsmith that had made a full working revolver in 600 Nitro. From memory it weighed about 12 pounds. No videos of it being shot just pictures.

All that sort of stuff makes spotlight shooting rabbits with a 460 seem like a perfecty normal everyday activity

Mike

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! *DELETED* [Re: Mike_McGuire]
#34923 - 21/07/05 04:38 PM

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Mike_McGuire]
#34927 - 21/07/05 11:42 PM

Mike,

Thanks for the info on AccurateReloading.com. I enjoyed some of the comments. I wasn't expecting this to get around to other Forums.

The one guy posted stating the gun hit my head, etc. I think he needs to read my later posting on the actual physical damage.

I am in the process of registering with accuratereloading.com to reply to their comments and hopefully give them the straight skinny.

Any other forums I need to know about?

Kamikaze

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Mike_McGuire]
#34928 - 21/07/05 11:58 PM

Mike,

I talked to the guy in Austria, at Pfeifer-Waffen who is the manufacturer of the .600 NE revolver. The gun is a 5-shot, weighs 13.5 lbs, costs $18,500 USD (plus tax,plus import charges, plus the import FFL fee), and I can't remember if he said 6 months or 18 months for delivery. I didn't ask him wether or not he was shooting standard double rifle loads or light loads. By the way, my gun weighs only 7 lbs.

Bob (Kamikaze)

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34931 - 22/07/05 12:45 AM

I'VE EDITED THE INFO ON THE POST WHICH CONTAINS THE VIDEO CLIPS, AND ADDED THE ORIGINAL PHOTOS OF THE PISTOL FROM MY EARLIER POSTING SHOWING THE PISTOLS (in their dormant state).

Kamikaze

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34941 - 22/07/05 09:46 AM

Kamikazie,
Pretty serious piece of artillery!
About a year ago there was an article in the news concerning a young boy killed when a magnum revolver struck him in the head.... Not trying to rain on anyones parade but just be careful with that thiing!

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34942 - 22/07/05 09:51 AM

When will we see the 700 Nitro
project? It seems to be the
natural progression.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: k80]
#34952 - 22/07/05 01:16 PM

Awesome and very funny videos.

Thanks for posting.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: k80]
#34955 - 22/07/05 03:48 PM

.700 Nitro Pistol?

Ahhhhh, I don't think so. Only Texans do things bigger than the last. Right?

Bob

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34957 - 22/07/05 06:29 PM

Bob,

I cannot think of any Texans who would care to actually try that handgun. I can think of a few who would goad someone else into trying it.

It took me 3 hours to download the film clip and after seeing it I would hope you don't intend to shoot that thing again unless you come up with a .600 Special using cases that are only 1.5" long or so...

Richard.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: rgp]
#34964 - 23/07/05 12:48 AM

Stop talking about this video...I''m on dial up and can't load it! I wanna see!!!

I am in a third world country called Northern Virgina and am not able to get DSL. Now If I was still in Montana 25 miles from the nearest town-3000 pop. and 1 1/2 miles from the nearest neighbor I could have DSL. But here 30 miles from the Nations Capital among a million or so people, no DSL!

Anybody got the video on disc who might share?

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DD, Ret.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34974 - 23/07/05 08:56 AM

A little while ago a 12 year old child was killed in North America someplace when he shot a single action handgun in some hot (but sane) caliber - it recoiled up and hit his head. Were you hoping to lose the use of an arm to avoid military duty? Were you figuring on collecting on a disability insurance policy?

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: rgp]
#34978 - 23/07/05 12:49 PM

3 hrs to download the video? NoWayJose. I'm not even gonna try. I guess I'll just have to live without seeing the videos.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: jgttechjunkie]
#34980 - 23/07/05 01:05 PM

jgttechjunkie,

Nope, already did my time (Vietnam Vet). Oddly enough, my other handcannon is an Encore .50-140 Sharps Pistol. Using the max load (100 grains) with the 700 grain bullet, the scope made contact with my upper lip; no injury.Mainly because I wasn't expecting the recoil.

With the .600 Nitro, I was expecting severe recoil, so I was thoroughly prepared to move my head and had a more forward and stiffer stance. Since I was concerned only about shooting and surviving the .600, I wasn't concerned about accuracy, thus causing me to miss the target to the right.

Bob (Kamikaze)

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: DoubleD]
#34981 - 23/07/05 01:10 PM

Double D,

E-mail me your mailing address and I'll send you a CD (unless a friend has already done so).

Bob (Kamiakze)

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: Kamikaze]
#34992 - 23/07/05 11:21 PM

I'm on dialup with only 31 k connection. It took maybe 12 to 18 minutes to download each. Just set it to "save as" and went and did other things. Came back later to watch it.

Worth seeing.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: NitroX]
#35162 - 28/07/05 02:20 PM

In reply to:

Loading Data (Full Nitro Loads):
900 grain jacketed bullet
158gr Hodgdon 4831 powder
1670 FPS Muzzle Velocity (14” barrel length)
5550# Muzzle Energy (14” barrel length)

I thought I might run the above data through a recoil calculator. Assuming a 4 lb pistol.

A mere ............................................

Recoil Energy of 306 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 70 fps.

The same load through a 16 pound double rifle ...............

Recoil Energy of 76 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 18 fps.

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Re: I Finally Shot the .600 Nitro Express Pistol ! [Re: NitroX]
#35165 - 28/07/05 05:03 PM

I think the 600 Nitro in a pistol is getting close to the stage of deciding:

1) Do you hold the projectile and shoot the pistol

Or

2) Do you hold the pistol and shoot the projectile

Mike

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