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JDL
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8x51
#343297 - 14/07/20 10:31 PM

Since the muzzle velocity was around 2100 fps with a 154 grain bullet, what was/is the primary use of the 8x51, small deer?

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Re: 8x51 [Re: JDL]
#343300 - 15/07/20 03:33 AM

definitely were built as hunting rifles....Paul

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fuhrmann
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Re: 8x51 [Re: pjaln]
#343314 - 16/07/20 07:54 PM

The 8x51 was chambered in the shorter M98 Kurz action rifles, often carbines / Stutzen, as was the 6,5x54 Mauser.
Today in Germany both cartidges would be legal only for the small roe deer.
At the time of introduction, around 1900 there were no such legal requirements.
My guess is that the main use was for roe deer, but it was considered enough for the occasional larger game animal.
fuhrmann

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Rothhammer1
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Re: 8x51 [Re: fuhrmann]
#343324 - 17/07/20 10:44 AM

Quote:

The 8x51 was chambered in the shorter M98 Kurz action rifles, often carbines / Stutzen, as was the 6,5x54 Mauser.

Images from the 1939 Stoeger Catalog imported from thread; 9.3X62B... :

The 1939 Stoeger Catalog (US) listed a few different models of Mauser rifles and carbines chambered for the 8X51, as well as special orders and raw actions:

Option #07

No. 606K,

No. 615C

No. 625E

Second column

Use this link to find estimate of today's equivalent to 1939 prices: Inflation Calculator

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mckinney
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Re: 8x51 [Re: Rothhammer1]
#343339 - 17/07/20 08:42 PM

I really like the look of the 8x51 cartridge, as I do the 9x57. The whole catalog of Mauser cartridges is great and they look better in these Stoeger catalog drawings than they do in the flesh. I think a used gun seller could do worse than to have a letterhead or logo with these images of Mauser rifles and cartridges.

The 8x51 should be a fine cartridge for deer and even elk when loaded with the 196 grain bullet or modern equivalent and used at reasonable ranges.

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93x64mm
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Re: 8x51 [Re: mckinney]
#343340 - 17/07/20 09:50 PM

A $2000 magnum action for a .404 & about $2800 for a Model A - oh I wish!!!

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Rothhammer1
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Re: 8x51 [Re: mckinney]
#343341 - 17/07/20 10:03 PM

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The whole catalog of Mauser cartridges is great and they look better in these Stoeger catalog drawings than they do in the flesh. I think a used gun seller could do worse than to have a letterhead or logo with these images of Mauser rifles and cartridges.

I agree, also the Mannlicher Schoenauer which often shared billing with the Mauser.

Stoeger, 1939:

Westley Richards, 1937 - 38:

ICI, 1930s:

DWM 531 - 9.5 X 57mm Mannlicher Schoenauer:

I know... it's a Mauser thread.

Stoeger, 1939:

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Frikkie007
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Re: 8x51 [Re: Rothhammer1]
#343531 - 23/07/20 10:59 AM

Hi Guys

Does anyone have any good loads for the 200gr Woodleighs?
Or any loads for that matter?

Cheers

Frederik

Edited by Frikkie007 (23/07/20 11:00 AM)

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