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animalwithin
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My new Merkel!
      #343016 - 04/07/20 01:32 PM

My first personally owned rifle gifted to myself for my 30th birthday A Merkel KR-1 Stutzen in .243 with a Leupold FX-II Ultralight.

I had a Swarovski waiting for this one but it turned out to be too big to my liking so I'm saving that for my next full-stock rifle.

Rifle is a bit heavy, nearly 10lbs with scope + mount but I absolutely love it and the action is phenomenal. Can't wait to go hunting!















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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343018 - 04/07/20 05:12 PM

Congratulations on your very smart full-stock rifle, even the bolt handle is Mannlicher Schoenauer in style; and good hunt with her!
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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Louis]
      #343025 - 05/07/20 12:30 AM

Looks good!

What part of the state is your home?

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: tinker]
      #343027 - 05/07/20 01:17 AM

Now THAT's cool & VERY different.
18 1/2" or 20"?

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: DarylS]
      #343036 - 05/07/20 08:43 AM

Thanks gents!

Tinker, I'm in the ever so lovely city of Los Angeles. The more time goes on the more I aspire to a nice place somewhere in Montana.

Daryl, it's a 20" barrel but still a fairly short rifle overall at 38.5". I know the Sako carbine I was looking at is at least an Inch longer than the Merkel.


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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343037 - 05/07/20 09:07 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Avagreatweekendeh!
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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Homer]
      #343040 - 05/07/20 09:31 AM

20" bl. will add 100 fps over the 18 1/2".
(close, anyway) In the short barrels, the 85gr. mono-bullets seem to shine over the heavier cup and core bullets.


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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: DarylS]
      #343045 - 05/07/20 03:03 PM

Get yourself a game tag for something.
There's a lot of wild pig opportunity up in the Paso Robles area. It should be easy to get that neat little rifle out in the field for a workout.
You'll be happy that you did.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: tinker]
      #343079 - 06/07/20 11:56 AM

Congratulations and a nice looking stutzen in a different type of rifle. Now a birthday hunt.

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animalwithin
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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: NitroX]
      #343081 - 06/07/20 01:41 PM

Quote:

20" bl. will add 100 fps over the 18 1/2".
(close, anyway) In the short barrels, the 85gr. mono-bullets seem to shine over the heavier cup and core bullets.




As someone who completely lacks knowledge of ballistics, that's amazing how much 1.5" can add to bullet speed. Something I didn't know about.

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Get yourself a game tag for something.
There's a lot of wild pig opportunity up in the Paso Robles area. It should be easy to get that neat little rifle out in the field for a workout.
You'll be happy that you did.




I'll look through the tag options. There are at least a few outfitters here that I know with all sorts of game to be hunted, just need to decide on a date.

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Congratulations and a nice looking stutzen in a different type of rifle. Now a birthday hunt.




Thanks John! A birthday hunt is long overdue


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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343096 - 07/07/20 02:21 AM

Normally, with that 1 1/2" drop in length, a reduction of about 50fps would be made.
The larger the case compared to bullet diameter, the greater the drop.
Normally, from say, 24" to 20", the drop would be in the 35fps range, per inch.
There seems to be a critical length, where the drop in vel. is even greater and with many ctgs. That seems to be 20" for many, and dropping from there further, will have increased drop per inch.
As noted, it depends on the ctg.
Of course in California, you will need to use a mono bullet anyway. The Hornady 80gr. GMX or Barnes 85gr. TSX will fill the bill.
So - Hornady or Federal ammo load those, seems to me.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343124 - 08/07/20 02:18 AM

Quote:

Thanks gents!

Tinker, I'm in the ever so lovely city of Los Angeles. The more time goes on the more I aspire to a nice place somewhere in Montana.

Daryl, it's a 20" barrel but still a fairly short rifle overall at 38.5". I know the Sako carbine I was looking at is at least an Inch longer than the Merkel.




MONTANA is horrible.. tons of snakes, horrible grizzly attacks every day.. lots of men, women and children go missing every day... earthquakes.. fires.. droughts... tell everyone Montana is a horrible place..

Ripp

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animalwithin
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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Ripp]
      #343128 - 08/07/20 04:02 AM

Quote:

Normally, with that 1 1/2" drop in length, a reduction of about 50fps would be made.
The larger the case compared to bullet diameter, the greater the drop.
Normally, from say, 24" to 20", the drop would be in the 35fps range, per inch.
There seems to be a critical length, where the drop in vel. is even greater and with many ctgs. That seems to be 20" for many, and dropping from there further, will have increased drop per inch.
As noted, it depends on the ctg.
Of course in California, you will need to use a mono bullet anyway. The Hornady 80gr. GMX or Barnes 85gr. TSX will fill the bill.
So - Hornady or Federal ammo load those, seems to me.




I will keep this in mind, thank you Daryl. I picked up Federal in 100gr for the range, will look for the ones you mentioned for hunting.


Quote:

Quote:

Thanks gents!

Tinker, I'm in the ever so lovely city of Los Angeles. The more time goes on the more I aspire to a nice place somewhere in Montana.

Daryl, it's a 20" barrel but still a fairly short rifle overall at 38.5". I know the Sako carbine I was looking at is at least an Inch longer than the Merkel.




MONTANA is horrible.. tons of snakes, horrible grizzly attacks every day.. lots of men, women and children go missing every day... earthquakes.. fires.. droughts... tell everyone Montana is a horrible place..

Ripp




Can't fool me Ripp! I'd take snakes, bears, earthquakes, fires, droughts, and missing humans any day over delusional protesters and rioters. Traffic and smog isn't all that great either.


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Ripp
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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343131 - 08/07/20 07:15 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Normally, with that 1 1/2" drop in length, a reduction of about 50fps would be made.
The larger the case compared to bullet diameter, the greater the drop.
Normally, from say, 24" to 20", the drop would be in the 35fps range, per inch.
There seems to be a critical length, where the drop in vel. is even greater and with many ctgs. That seems to be 20" for many, and dropping from there further, will have increased drop per inch.
As noted, it depends on the ctg.
Of course in California, you will need to use a mono bullet anyway. The Hornady 80gr. GMX or Barnes 85gr. TSX will fill the bill.
So - Hornady or Federal ammo load those, seems to me.




I will keep this in mind, thank you Daryl. I picked up Federal in 100gr for the range, will look for the ones you mentioned for hunting.


Quote:

Quote:

Thanks gents!

Tinker, I'm in the ever so lovely city of Los Angeles. The more time goes on the more I aspire to a nice place somewhere in Montana.

Daryl, it's a 20" barrel but still a fairly short rifle overall at 38.5". I know the Sako carbine I was looking at is at least an Inch longer than the Merkel.




MONTANA is horrible.. tons of snakes, horrible grizzly attacks every day.. lots of men, women and children go missing every day... earthquakes.. fires.. droughts... tell everyone Montana is a horrible place..

Ripp




Can't fool me Ripp! I'd take snakes, bears, earthquakes, fires, droughts, and missing humans any day over delusional protesters and rioters. Traffic and smog isn't all that great either.







smog and rioters are horrible here as well..they are all moving here.. tell the world.. Montana is horrible.. stay away.. high taxes.. high unemployment... mostly all men.. no women...

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animalwithin
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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Ripp]
      #343135 - 08/07/20 08:57 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Normally, with that 1 1/2" drop in length, a reduction of about 50fps would be made.
The larger the case compared to bullet diameter, the greater the drop.
Normally, from say, 24" to 20", the drop would be in the 35fps range, per inch.
There seems to be a critical length, where the drop in vel. is even greater and with many ctgs. That seems to be 20" for many, and dropping from there further, will have increased drop per inch.
As noted, it depends on the ctg.
Of course in California, you will need to use a mono bullet anyway. The Hornady 80gr. GMX or Barnes 85gr. TSX will fill the bill.
So - Hornady or Federal ammo load those, seems to me.




I will keep this in mind, thank you Daryl. I picked up Federal in 100gr for the range, will look for the ones you mentioned for hunting.


Quote:

Quote:

Thanks gents!

Tinker, I'm in the ever so lovely city of Los Angeles. The more time goes on the more I aspire to a nice place somewhere in Montana.

Daryl, it's a 20" barrel but still a fairly short rifle overall at 38.5". I know the Sako carbine I was looking at is at least an Inch longer than the Merkel.




MONTANA is horrible.. tons of snakes, horrible grizzly attacks every day.. lots of men, women and children go missing every day... earthquakes.. fires.. droughts... tell everyone Montana is a horrible place..

Ripp




Can't fool me Ripp! I'd take snakes, bears, earthquakes, fires, droughts, and missing humans any day over delusional protesters and rioters. Traffic and smog isn't all that great either.







smog and rioters are horrible here as well..they are all moving here.. tell the world.. Montana is horrible.. stay away.. high taxes.. high unemployment... mostly all men.. no women...




Should the craziness continue, will be interesting to see if more people move away from the urban areas & more "popular" states.


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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Ripp]
      #343140 - 08/07/20 12:54 PM

smog and rioters are horrible here as well..they are all moving here.. tell the world.. Montana is horrible.. stay away.. high taxes.. high unemployment... mostly all men.. no women...




That's a good one, RIPP!!!!!!

Too many broke-back mountains?

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: DarylS]
      #343145 - 08/07/20 01:09 PM

Quote:

smog and rioters are horrible here as well..they are all moving here.. tell the world.. Montana is horrible.. stay away.. high taxes.. high unemployment... mostly all men.. no women...




That's a good one, RIPP!!!!!!

Too many broke-back mountains?




Haha, I thought similar. Mostly all men, might attract certain types. Looking for a he man to be girly for. Yuck.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: DarylS]
      #343164 - 08/07/20 11:27 PM

Quote:

smog and rioters are horrible here as well..they are all moving here.. tell the world.. Montana is horrible.. stay away.. high taxes.. high unemployment... mostly all men.. no women...




That's a good one, RIPP!!!!!!

Too many broke-back mountains?





YES.. way too many

The Wuhan virus is horrible here as well..99% infection rate... most horrible state in the nation..incredibly cold winters ..-85F daytime highs..

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Ripp]
      #343166 - 09/07/20 01:42 AM

-85 - WOW - Guess I won't be moving to Montana after all.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343180 - 09/07/20 02:12 PM

Quote:



Rifle is a bit heavy, nearly 10lbs with scope + mount but I absolutely love it and the action is phenomenal. Can't wait to go hunting!






Its a pity so many of these modern German rifle designs are so overly heavy.

A nice stutzen like this should be light and handy.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: NitroX]
      #343190 - 10/07/20 04:30 AM

Agreed. I suspect it's the bolt mechanism on this one that is adding to the weight.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: animalwithin]
      #343201 - 10/07/20 11:29 AM

There are some serious metal parts on that rifle including the bottom metal and the bolt-shroud.
Looks like a decently dense piece of wood as well.
10 pounds is fine, in my book, but 9 1/2 about perfect.

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: NitroX]
      #343210 - 11/07/20 04:35 AM

Quote:

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Rifle is a bit heavy, nearly 10lbs with scope + mount but I absolutely love it and the action is phenomenal. Can't wait to go hunting!






Its a pity so many of these modern German rifle designs are so overly heavy.

A nice stutzen like this should be light and handy.




I have a Merkel 20 Gauge SXS shotgun.. absolute dream to hunt with.. lightweight, fast and very deadly...one of my all time favorites...

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Ripp]
      #343213 - 11/07/20 07:17 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

Avagreatweekendeh!
Homer

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Re: My new Merkel! [Re: Homer]
      #343274 - 13/07/20 11:38 PM

Montana..

FYI: We're doing OK here right now with COVID cases. We watch in horror as the rest of the country spikes and wonder how long before it makes its way here.
So if you plan on vacationing in our great state of Montana, our rivers, lakes or on our prairies this summer, I think you should know that red ants and bedbugs have infested hotels and motels across the area due to a wetter than usual spring.

Mountain lions have eaten all domesticated animals and some smaller people.

The poison ivy has overtaken all other vegetation.

We have had bear sightings at every park and town.

We have Bigfoots INVADING OUR PARKS.

Porcupines "stabbing" small children should they dare to enter the forest.

Skunks have made their way over and multiplied at unprecedented rates and wander the local campgrounds in packs.
Murder hornets!?! We’ve got SHITLOADS of murder hornets.

And I’m pretty sure all private tiger owners have released them into the streets of our towns.

Head lice now fly... right beside the bats.

So stay where you are, in your own province, state or county where it's safe!

Seriously, PLEASE DO NOT COME HERE... ✋🏼 🤗
and we also have NO TOILET PAPER!!

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