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Waidmannsheil
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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #337074 - 26/01/20 12:03 PM

That is a very rare find and in good condition as well. Would be nice to get hold of.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #338381 - 26/02/20 08:19 AM

Holt's has just posted an M1956 in 458WM in their upcoming March sale. Interesting, indeed.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: skeet2atlow8]
      #338826 - 09/03/20 01:34 AM

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=120





Mannlicher Schoenauer model 1903 Take Down, 6,5x54 MS,56 cm barrel, open sights with additional folding leaf, unaltered receiver ring with original engraving, flag type safety, not secured two stage trigger (fires if pushed forward), take down pin in fore-end, folding aperture sight in tang, original walnut stock (matching numbered), Prince of Wales grip, horn pistol grip cap, oval cheekpiece, Silver's rubber recoil pad 36 cm, lateral rail mounted Kahles Helia 6S2, reticule 4, in a leather case with trade label by W. W. Greener - London, including key, handle teared at one side, British View Mark and obsolete Viennese proof, year of manufacture 1923, restored to condition II-III.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #340401 - 25/04/20 05:36 PM


Interesting stock, horrible scope mount, nice Lyman 1A on bolt: Gunbroker

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #340417 - 26/04/20 03:51 AM

I can take the scope mount better than that horrid thumb-hole stock on a classic rifle.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: JDL]
      #340427 - 26/04/20 09:03 AM

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I can take the scope mount better than that horrid thumb-hole stock on a classic rifle.





I absolutely agree with you about that stock but it is 'interesting'.
Style is a funny thing... :


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: JDL]
      #340428 - 26/04/20 09:11 AM

I agree with the scope mount, unnecessarily high as well.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #340462 - 27/04/20 10:57 AM

I too always looked down on these sidemounts. Try example is unmarked , but I believe they were made by EAW??

I decided to buy one , and quickly became very impressed with the practicality of it. They enable mounting of a vintage " modern" scope with centered reticle and 1 inch rings, an option not normaly available with factory period mounts. Mine is beautifully fitted and returns to zero every time.
When the scope is removed the mounting rail is very unobtrusive should you want to use iron sights.
Other options such as cutting through the front ring are not even worth considering.
Most of us Mannlicher shooters are well used to holding our heads erect....so not a problem.
If you get the chance, buy one...you will be pleasently surprised.

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: paradox_]
      #340463 - 27/04/20 11:01 AM

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: paradox_]
      #340465 - 27/04/20 11:57 AM

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I too always looked down on these sidemounts. Try example is unmarked , but I believe they were made by EAW??

I decided to buy one , and quickly became very impressed with the practicality of it. They enable mounting of a vintage " modern" scope with centered reticle and 1 inch rings, an option not normaly available with factory period mounts. Mine is beautifully fitted and returns to zero every time.
When the scope is removed the mounting rail is very unobtrusive should you want to use iron sights.
Other options such as cutting through the front ring are not even worth considering.
Most of us Mannlicher shooters are well used to holding our heads erect....so not a problem.
If you get the chance, buy one...you will be pleasently surprised.

Best

Eric





I don't doubt their function or versatility - function over form, I suppose - just don't care much for their appearance.

My M1910 Takedown wears a period claw mounted Gerard Model B that was on it when Granddad bought it in Ceylon circa 1932.

A similar option was the 'Vienna Snapper' as shown in this image from the 1939 Stoeger:


Claw mount for Mousies:


Not all were installed by dovetailing the receiver. Mine has a dovetail through the barrel, just foreward of the receiver (not much better), but some have a ring or a 'saddle' soldered to the receiver or to the barrel as on this example from Dorleac.


I really do like your Lyman 1A, by the way:


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #340466 - 27/04/20 12:13 PM

Yes Roth, Im familiar with the various mounting systems, but thank you

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: skeet2atlow8]
      #341247 - 20/05/20 01:45 PM

seller must be the son of collath500BPE so this was one rifle of his Mannlicher Schönauer collection
https://www.waffengebraucht.at/waffen/ku...95x57ms--135533





















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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #342853 - 28/06/20 12:17 AM

Haenel Model 1900 in 8x57I
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101170874











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Edited by lancaster (28/06/20 12:23 AM)


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #342854 - 28/06/20 12:26 AM











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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #342855 - 28/06/20 12:27 AM













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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: JDL]
      #342886 - 29/06/20 12:04 AM

Quote:

I can take the scope mount better than that horrid thumb-hole stock on a classic rifle.





If the owner wanted an AR-15, why didn't he simply buy one, instead of defacing a classic rifle? After all, don't they sell them in every corner store there, next to the beef jerky and chewing tobacco?

I'm already on record elsewhere here as being a fan of side mounts for certain applications, if they're well done. In this case, while the quality is good, the design definitely leaves much room for improvement. It's no surprise this rifle was relisted, and still went unsold. I presume the starting price prevented a more sympathetic individual from rescuing it and returning it to its' rightful form.

(As usual, I'm late to the thread, being a newbie with so much material to cover.)


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #342887 - 29/06/20 12:17 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I can take the scope mount better than that horrid thumb-hole stock on a classic rifle.





I absolutely agree with you about that stock but it is 'interesting'.
Style is a funny thing... :


Say, Brother... you know only two of us can fit in that stylin' gosh-awful purple corvette!





Sir, you confuse fad with fashion!

Pierce Brosnan or Edward Fox in a bespoke suit, the Duke of Edinburgh in tweeds, practically anyone with a haircut wearing a dinner jacket - that's style. Purple polyester bib overalls with sausage-pockets - fads. Purple psychedelic Corvettes are just the result of chronic drug use.


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #342888 - 29/06/20 12:31 AM

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a 1930s canadian Eaton Carcano in 6,5x54MS
a gun that was imho made in austria for the canadian trade








http://www.adpost.com/ca/sports_games/6927/





A small world indeed! Years later, this same rifle, along with it's little green box of handloads, resides not far from where I sit this very moment. I've held it in my hands, and I can tell you it's much better in person than it looks in these dingy photos.


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: vykkagur]
      #342914 - 29/06/20 03:49 PM

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Sir, you confuse fad with fashion!







Rubbish!

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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Igorrock]
      #342960 - 02/07/20 09:40 AM

Model NO Biathlon from German Hunting Guns:



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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #342965 - 02/07/20 11:42 AM

The description failed to mention that the rifle is a take down model, judging from the clearly visible take down pin in the forearm. I don't understand the part about "seitlich angeschlagene Riemenbügel", since they are clearly mounted on the bottom, unless there are more on the far side, out of sight.

The Biathlon is an event combining skiing and shooting and the shooter has to sling the rifle over his back to transport it from site to site. I would be interested in seeing a closeup of the safety modification, since it appears to be one which would be applicable to a low scoped rifle as well.


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: xausa]
      #342969 - 02/07/20 06:03 PM

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The description failed to mention that the rifle is a take down model, judging from the clearly visible take down pin in the forearm.





I thought so at first but then looked closer.
If so, it is not quite like the type produced at Steyr before WW2.


Here is the Biathlon.
If that's a takedown forend pin it's through left - to - right, opposite of the MS TD.
Would that dingus near the trigger be a release lever for the takedown?:



Note the forend pin on this M1903 Take Down Model:


The release lever, at front of of trigger guard:





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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #342976 - 03/07/20 04:55 AM

Quote:

Quote:



Sir, you confuse fad with fashion!







Rubbish!





Hold still while I get my rook rifle. You've got a pigeon on your head.


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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: vykkagur]
      #342979 - 03/07/20 12:35 PM

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Hold still while I get my rook rifle. You've got a pigeon on your head.




Where?

I don't see it."



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Re: Mannlicher Schönauer at auction [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #342981 - 03/07/20 02:30 PM

Where did you get a picture of the latest piece of top secret Canadian military technology??? There's been a serious security breach!

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